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Old 03-11-2015, 03:32 PM
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Hello everyone before I start Id like to say I did a search and couldn't find a stright answer of what I was looking for. I have a 14 wrangler 2.5 aev lift 35 Toyos. I have a slight pull to the right. I get it aligned every 5000 miles and it still pulls. I Don't have death wobble or anything like that it isn't as tight as I'd like it to be. Will a dual steering stabilizer make it tighter and help with the pull? Which set up do you use and recommend. Thanks.

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Nooooo I went through the same thing and found out I had to replace my ball joints,track bar,drag link,tie rod. I have a 13 JKU with 24K and a 2.5 Rock Krawler flex with 35" Toy. And it rides and drives like it was stock now oh yes Fox shocks hope this helps.

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IMO the dual SS is snake oil...a lot of people run the stock one after the lift install.....IMO there is something else going on with your rig...........
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I agree that it's probably not the SS. Take your stabilizer off - it might be masking some other issues. Check air pressure, try rotating the tires to eliminate simple things. Check ball joints, tie rod, and bearings. What kind of alignment numbers did you get? Good luck.
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Psi is at 30 in all 4 tires. I can't see my ball joints being blown out after 8000 miles. It can be possible. It's not pulling super hard just slightly. It could be the tires needing balanced? The problem I'm having is the steering wheel being super touchy.
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It honestly was super touchy since the day I got it. I typically daily drive my tdi and the steering on that is super tight. I'd like to tighten up the jeep
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I have the same lift. Do you have the geo brackets? When running light I was higher than advertised lift. Steering was a tad twitchy. When I installed bumpers and winch it brought that heigh down. Now it tracks like stock. Some guys running light with the geo's switch to the middle hole and it takes some of that out. Not sure if this will help you but it seems worth a shot. I didn't run without bumpers for very long so I just never did it when I found out about it.
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If you only put a lift on, did you also either use the track bar relocation brackets or replace with adjustable track bars front and rear? If not your axles are not centered and needs to be corrected.
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If you only put a lift on, did you also either use the track bar relocation brackets or replace with adjustable track bars front and rear? If not your axles are not centered and needs to be corrected.
x2, but it's strange that OP's pulls to the right. I would expect, and that's what I had on mine, a pull to the left after lift is installed and front axle is not centered. That's because without track bar adjustment lift will sift axle to the left and left tire "bites" road more relative to the center line of the vehicle.

JkMonster, can you measure to see if your axle is off center first. Mine was off 0.5" to the left with 2" lift and stock track bar.
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I have the geo brackets. I've read that the toyos I have cause a little pulling there not the easiest to balance.
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I have the geo brackets. I've read that the toyos I have cause a little pulling there not the easiest to balance.
Post your alignment sheet, we need to see the numbers.
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I'll have new numbers next month or so. I'm in pot hole heaven right now and I'm sure it's knocked out of alignment.
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I rented a jeep at Barlow jeep rentals at Sedona Az about a year ago and the lady that owns the place told me that Toyos pull to the right for some reason.
A friend of mine had 'em on a Ford Super duty and never could get rid of the problem...
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The axles shift under the jeep as your suspension works. A slightly offset axle is not going to cause a pull.
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I rechecked it last night on the way home and it isn't pulling as bad as I thought it might of just been the road pulling me over. My steering is still very touchy. Besides a dual steering stabilizer is there anything else that would help tighten it up.
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I rechecked it last night on the way home and it isn't pulling as bad as I thought it might of just been the road pulling me over. My steering is still very touchy. Besides a dual steering stabilizer is there anything else that would help tighten it up.
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I rechecked it last night on the way home and it isn't pulling as bad as I thought it might of just been the road pulling me over. My steering is still very touchy. Besides a dual steering stabilizer is there anything else that would help tighten it up.
a extra steering stabilizer will do nothing for you. It's a dampener nothing more.
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Roads are crowned for drainage, some worse than others and it will make perfectly fine vehicles seem like they are pulling to the right. Jeeps are particularly sensitive to this due to old school suspension design. If your commute is on heavily crowed roads it will exacerbate the issue.
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In my discussion with a lot of folks way smarter than I am... The Toyo MTs have a natural radial pull to the right. Do a search on Google for Toyo MT pull right. That being said I have them on my jkur and with just a good alignment and 30psi it isn't too bad. I have had a few people tell me they have had luck using a gas charged stabilizer to counter act the radial pull. Bilstein is the recommended one for this. My tire size is 35s and my lift is Metalcloak 2.5. My jeep is light and net lift is 3 5/8".
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Thank God someone knew about that "pull" 😎
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I have Toyo at2's on my raptor with zero pull. I have Toyo RT's on my jk, and it has zero pull. I love my Toyo's. Both have 35's on them.
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The pull is only on mt's
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And yes, they're great tires!
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My AEV kit came with the OME SS and I decided to replace it with Bilstein and it no longer went to the right. I felt what I assume was bumper stead to a greater degree. Bought a dual as mounting bracket and another Bilstein and no I don't have the bump steer and tighter staring. It is a little tighter than it should be but I can live with it.
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Gawhite that's exactly what I was thinking. Before I got my tires I've read up plenty on them. I've read about the pull. It isn't bad I'm just being picky. I don't want to drop 300 on a dual steering stabilizer and it be exactly the same. I figured since my tires pull to the right and the blisten pulls to left it would even it out.
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Hello everyone before I start Id like to say I did a search and couldn't find a stright answer of what I was looking for. I have a 14 wrangler 2.5 aev lift 35 Toyos. I have a slight pull to the right. I get it aligned every 5000 miles and it still pulls. I Don't have death wobble or anything like that it isn't as tight as I'd like it to be. Will a dual steering stabilizer make it tighter and help with the pull? Which set up do you use and recommend. Thanks.
I have a fox 2.0 steering stabalizer and the difference is night and day. My steering is super tight (for a jeep) and it does not pull nearly as bad. I have a 3" Pro Comp lift and 35 inch Nitto's (which I am hoping to switch to Toyos soon).
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I have a fox 2.0 steering stabalizer and the difference is night and day. My steering is super tight (for a jeep) and it does not pull nearly as bad. I have a 3" Pro Comp lift and 35 inch Nitto's (which I am hoping to switch to Toyos soon).

Do you have the new Evolution series or a different Fox steering stabalizer?
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Would that be the ats ?
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I had a slight pull also with AEV 2.5" lift with correction brackets, Bilstein 5100 shocks running BFG All Terrain T/A KO's 315 70R 17 on AEV Pintler wheels so I changed out the stock stabilizer with a Bilstein and noticed very little if any difference. I blame it on the wide tires and strait axle suspension over crowned roads. I did get tire wear on the inside tread on the front tires after 15000 miles and tire rotation around 9000 miles.

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