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Old 09-16-2014, 10:35 PM
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Steering Vibration

Hi guys, I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I would like to apologize if someone brought this issue up here before.

I have with me a Jeep Wrangler JK Unlimited V6 3.6L year 2013 RHD. Just done about 23000kilometres on it. Brought it to offroad, cleaned it and sent it back for wheel alignments, balancing and switch the tires around after that day as i can feel the steering vibration.

Alright after all those is done, from time to time, the steering will vibrate and sometimes together with the dashboard. I can be driving my Jeep around town and everything works fine and smooth but some how sometimes half way through driving it, the steering will start to shake.

So i sent it back to the dealer/agent for service and complained about this to the mechanic. They serviced my car and run through the engine tests etc etc for me. They even checked my aftermarket suspensions! I mentioned the matter above to them and they told me that the full check up or engine test from the computer dint show anything abnormal.

it has been 2 weeks now from the offroad adventure. Sometimes i still get the steering vibration. EVEN when the car is at a complete stop with gear D, for example at a junction. The steering will vibrate. At times, when im drivng and the steering starts to vibrate, I can hear like there is something is LOOSE bt I do not know what it is.

And the other thing is, lets say drivng around town with the Air-cond on, and suddenly the vibration starts again, I tend to switch off the air-cond and i can feel that the vibration actually reduces. I really dnt know what is going on!

The mechanic said it might be the fan behind the radiator. Bt he cant give me a 100% answer as the vibration/problem bit is not constant, only happens from time to time.


Has anyone ever encountered this problem before? it is driving me nuts for my 1 year old Jeep Please advice me Jeepers!

P.s sorry for the damn long post!

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So you feel it's tied to the engine itself ?
Does the vibration increase with RPM ?

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Hi kjeeper10,

I'm nt too sure either because the engine mountings, bushings, panhard, tie rods, bushings etc etc all are good and the vibration does not come on constantly. It is only from time to time that the vibration will appear. And let's say the vibration is on again wif the rpm increasing or decreasing, it stays the same.
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Speed related? Might be a tire balancing issue.
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wow, interesting. i wonder if one of your engine mounts failed? half way through your post i was sure something was loose in your suspension (control arms or track bar) but if it vibrates at a stop...

check the "tabs" on your steering box, they could be cracked, or completely broken.
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wow, interesting. i wonder if one of your engine mounts failed? half way through your post i was sure something was loose in your suspension (control arms or track bar) but if it vibrates at a stop... check the "tabs" on your steering box, they could be cracked, or completely broken.
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Speed related? Might be a tire balancing issue.
Dnt think it's too much speed related as the tires balancing has been done, when th engine is smooth, d steering doesn't shake at all and works as fine.
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wow, interesting. i wonder if one of your engine mounts failed? half way through your post i was sure something was loose in your suspension (control arms or track bar) but if it vibrates at a stop...

check the "tabs" on your steering box, they could be cracked, or completely broken.
I checked 2 of the engine mountings and bushing with the engine running, it seems pretty good and solid to me. Will give it a look again tmw and take photos of it and post it here for u guys to see.

Tabs on the steering box? How do I check it? Pls advice!
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Have somebody turn the wheel 9-3

Take a close look at the pitman arm (steering arm coming out of box)
There's a large nut there. Look for any play In the shaft.
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Have somebody turn the wheel 9-3

Take a close look at the pitman arm (steering arm coming out of box)
There's a large nut there. Look for any play In the shaft.

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Have somebody turn the wheel 9-3

Take a close look at the pitman arm (steering arm coming out of box)
There's a large nut there. Look for any play In the shaft.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...jsteering1.jpg

found this picture on google, thought its pretty useful as my knowledge towards car parts is close to zero. So check the pitman arm and ask somemore to turn the steering for me? what else can i check?
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http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...jsteering1.jpg found this picture on google, thought its pretty useful as my knowledge towards car parts is close to zero. So check the pitman arm and ask somemore to turn the steering for me? what else can i check?
Any movement/play that doesn't seem normal.
Tie rod ends, track bad bolts/bushings.
Ball joints/unit bearing have to be checked with the tires off the ground. You want to pry from under the tire. The tire will pop up and down if the ball joints are worn.
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Any movement/play that doesn't seem normal.
Tie rod ends, track bad bolts/bushings.
Ball joints/unit bearing have to be checked with the tires off the ground. You want to pry from under the tire. The tire will pop up and down if the ball joints are worn.
The thing is I do not hav a proper jacking device to lift all wheels up d ground and look for any foul play. The best I can do is check from d bottom when d wheels r on ground.
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Hi guys, I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I would like to apologize if someone brought this issue up here before.

I have with me a Jeep Wrangler JK Unlimited V6 3.6L year 2013 RHD. Just done about 23000kilometres on it. Brought it to offroad, cleaned it and sent it back for wheel alignments, balancing and switch the tires around after that day as i can feel the steering vibration.

Alright after all those is done, from time to time, the steering will vibrate and sometimes together with the dashboard. I can be driving my Jeep around town and everything works fine and smooth but some how sometimes half way through driving it, the steering will start to shake.

So i sent it back to the dealer/agent for service and complained about this to the mechanic. They serviced my car and run through the engine tests etc etc for me. They even checked my aftermarket suspensions! I mentioned the matter above to them and they told me that the full check up or engine test from the computer dint show anything abnormal.

it has been 2 weeks now from the offroad adventure. Sometimes i still get the steering vibration. EVEN when the car is at a complete stop with gear D, for example at a junction. The steering will vibrate. At times, when im drivng and the steering starts to vibrate, I can hear like there is something is LOOSE bt I do not know what it is.

And the other thing is, lets say drivng around town with the Air-cond on, and suddenly the vibration starts again, I tend to switch off the air-cond and i can feel that the vibration actually reduces. I really dnt know what is going on!

The mechanic said it might be the fan behind the radiator. Bt he cant give me a 100% answer as the vibration/problem bit is not constant, only happens from time to time.


Has anyone ever encountered this problem before? it is driving me nuts for my 1 year old Jeep Please advice me Jeepers!

P.s sorry for the damn long post!
^^^The way you are describing the vibration, even when stopped at a light, plus hearing something loose, it sounds like your alternator, P/S Pump, or A/C compressor is loose, or maybe has a broken mounting bracket. When this happens, the engine RPM will set up a harmonic, and in turn, something loose will vibrate.

The correct way to diagnose this, is with a Stethoscope........

Vibration analysis, along with harmonics, are sometimes tricky to diagnose!

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