still on the fence RS9000XL vs Fox 2.0res - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 04-04-2014, 01:05 AM
Thread Starter
  #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 77
still on the fence RS9000XL vs Fox 2.0res

Ok, probably going to actually have the time to install the lift this weekend.

Only dilemma is which shock to go with. I have both on hand. Went ahead and ordered the RS9000XLs since they were on sale and have the rebate. shouldn't be an issue to return as there are several 4wheel parts nearby.


posed the question earlier, but have not determined a course of action:

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/mo...ks-597418.html

Sooooo, I guess what I'm asking is give your experiences with either shock.

The RS9000XLs are adjustable. have them on my Dodge 3500 and they work well to adjust for load, but that is nearly twice the weight of the JK unloaded and 3 times the weight of the JK loaded.

I have no experience with the Fox 2.0 reservoir shocks at all, but they are the ones included in the MOPAR kit, so they should be the teraflex valved shocks and should be matched to the lift springs fairly well.

However, being a 90% or so daily driver vehicle AND not likely to see full out pre-runner activity, I thought the fox shocks might be over kill and with the sale and rebate on the Ranchos, I ordered some. Particularly with the Overland journal article praising the Ranchos so highly.

Thanks in advance for any replies!!!

hbski

__________________
Information gathered for free from the internet might just be worth what you paid for it
hbski is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 04:14 AM   #2
Jeeper
 
spinlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 37.9° N, 121.7° W
Posts: 5,701
The Fox shocks are performance shocks and in a different category than the Ranchos. Honestly, if you have to question which one to get you will most likely be happier with the 9000XL which are adjustable as opposed to tunable. Adjustable shocks have multiple pre settings that anyone can select without any technical expertise. The tunable shocks required expertise to setup correctly.

The Fox's would be overkill.

__________________
"Don't take life too seriously. You'll never get out alive."
B. B.
spinlock is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 05:15 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
somis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Somis, CA
Posts: 759
When I got my JKUR it had the Rancho's equipped.
They help up for about 3 months before they were completely destroyed.
I would set them and they would just automatically blow out all the way down to the softest setting.

Then again I'm 21 and did not go easy on them whatsoever.

I have been running the T-Flex tuned Fox 2.0 w/ Resi for about 3 months and couldnt be happier. Really smooth off-road in almost every scenario, especially big hits, unexpected square edges. The faster you go the better they work!

You might be happier if you're on the pavement 90% of the time, but just the look of the Fox's alone is enough cool factor to win me over.
__________________
When in doubt...FLAT OUT!
somis is offline   Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-04-2014, 06:44 AM   #4
WF Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 53,749
Warranty ^ just saying. Currie one of the top suspension company's has been (still is iirc) using Rancho 9000's w/ their kits for years. Never heard of a failure w/ the revised 9000xl's The older 9000's had some issues I believe.

OP... All Rancho shocks have a 90 day "if you think they suck" no questions asked return. Why not run give the 9000's a run?

At least give them a shot, you don't like them GIVE EM BACK. I've never heard of anybody doing so ... That's to got say something? They have to be selling a s**t load of these shocks lately, seeing all the threads/post on 4 different forums. The 7000's is another option. Great shock but is not really grabbing the JK market from what I see.

If you run the 9000's. I always advise coating or even painting them. They will rust in some environments. Also remove the knobs and grease up the valve area. (Takes 10 mins). Do this and the shock will last a very long time
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 07:05 AM   #5
Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,572
I've read such great things about Rancho shocks, but I still can't convince myself they are better than Bilstein shocks on a stock Wrangler. I am open minded and would probably take them up on the 90 day trial though.
demarpaint is online now   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 08:11 AM   #6
Jeeper
 
somis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Somis, CA
Posts: 759
I guess it depends on the drivers preference.
Myself I would choose Bilstein over Rancho on the fact that they are tolerant to hard hits and are developed by brilliant Germans.
Who knows if they are really brilliant or even German for that matter, they could have outsourced for all I know. What I do know is that I have run all 3 of the mentioned shocks.

Rancho: Great for street, average offroad. Great versatility. Decent reliability.
Bilstein: Good for street, above average offroad. Not adjustable. Very reliable.
Fox 2.0: Decent for street, great offroad. Adjustable if trained. Reliable so far!
__________________
When in doubt...FLAT OUT!
somis is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 08:34 AM   #7
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toledo
Posts: 722
Rancho has a good marketing plan. A very small minority would return the shocks. The percentage is probably higher for some who while aren't completely satisfied don't want to go through the hassle of returning them and putting the old shocks back on which they might not even have anymore. Rancho seems really popular here and I'm not knocking them. Do you see Fox or King offering a 90 day no question return ? No, because they don't have to. It's not in their marketing strategy.

Of the two mentioned I'd go with Fox without thinking. Even if you rarely go off road they have the potential to offer better performance. You don't have any experience with Fox ? Put them on and get some Get yourself a nitrogen tank, set of gauges and a no loss air chuck. Playing with the pressure. For instance my Kings came with 90psi on all corners. The ride was cushy but firm. I put 130 in front and 150 rear. Less cushy and more firm. I like it better.

I've read adjusting psi shouldn't be used as a tuning tool. Sure, the valving needs to be right, but after that adjusting pressure can really dial things in. Look at it this way. If you put on the 9000's you'll really learn nothing about your shocks except how to turn a knob. With Fox you have a chance to explore and tweak with a potential for better performance. If that's not your thing keep the 9000's.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxzy is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 08:51 AM   #8
WF Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 53,749
I did as a matter of fact

The TF tuned fox rex shocks. Not as stiff as the 5100's but stiffer on road. I don't care for having to rebuild a shock every year or so. Not doing it myself. FOX's CS is known to be iffy at best.
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 09:06 AM   #9
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toledo
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
FOX's CS is known to be iffy at best.
That's one reason I went with King
xxxxxxxxxxxxxzy is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 09:32 AM   #11
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toledo
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I'm not rich
I'm not either...lol. I spent money on something I use every time I get in my Jeep. Shocks. No need for mega bumpers or armor. Those things might be nice but you don't use them every day. It's all about allocating money and priorities.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxzy is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 09:39 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
groovebus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 426
I just bought a set of the Rancho 9000XL to replace my stock Sport shocks. (Sport shocks are rough as hell on the road and off) I'm installing them tomorrow. I'm not rich either, so I am installing them myself. LOL
groovebus is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 12:23 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Windsor Ont
Posts: 244
have heard good revues of the BDS tuned fox shocks on JK's FWIW
2footin is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 01:54 PM   #14
Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,572
I agree that Rancho has a good marketing plan, I bet the % of people who send them back is very small. Honestly I'd probably go with Bilstein, I've had good luck with them in the past and as a result will stick with them. I don't want to do a job twice, and I would probably be one of the small % of people sending them back if I'm not happy with them.
demarpaint is online now   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 01:57 PM   #15
Jeeper
 
milani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Orland Park
Posts: 366
I recently installed the rancho shocks with my lift. I have been happy with them thus far. took a little time to get them dialed in for optimal ride...
__________________
2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara - Black
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl
Previously - 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - Brilliant Black
milani is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 02:13 PM   #16
WF Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 53,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by demarpaint View Post
I agree that Rancho has a good marketing plan, I bet the % of people who send them back is very small. Honestly I'd probably go with Bilstein, I've had good luck with them in the past and as a result will stick with them. I don't want to do a job twice, and I would probably be one of the small % of people sending them back if I'm not happy with them.
$400 ish normally ? I would send them back in a heart beat. Wish I had the option with my 5100's :P
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 03:05 PM   #17
Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,572
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
$400 ish normally ? I would send them back in a heart beat. Wish I had the option with my 5100's :P
For $400 they be getting them back in a heartbeat from me too if I wasn't thrilled with them. Years ago they had a reputation for being just OK, and I think that reputation is stuck in my head. It is the great reviews they get here that have me even considering them now.
demarpaint is online now   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 03:17 PM
Thread Starter
  #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I did as a matter of fact

The TF tuned fox rex shocks. Not as stiff as the 5100's but stiffer on road. I don't care for having to rebuild a shock every year or so. Not doing it myself. FOX's CS is known to be iffy at best.

So with 90% DD and less than extreme trail use, do you think the TF Foxs would need rebuilt that often?
hbski is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 03:25 PM
Thread Starter
  #19
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 77
Thanks for all the replies folks! Also keep in mind it's not between these 2 and any other shocks. These are already on the shelf in my garage! I've gotta pick one set and return or sell the other.

The adjustable Kings look nice, but since I'm thinking the ~$750 Fox's are overkill for me, I doubt I'd be able to do ~$2k worth of shocks justice.

What does it run to get the Fox's rebuilt?

Another consideration for me for the Rancho's is the fact that I'll have varying loads......empty most of the time on the street and loaded to the gills for off-road camping......so the adjustable part is potentially very beneficial.....it works quite well on my truck going between empty and fully loaded!
__________________
Information gathered for free from the internet might just be worth what you paid for it
hbski is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 03:35 PM   #20
WF Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 53,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by hbski View Post
So with 90% DD and less than extreme trail use, do you think the TF Foxs would need rebuilt that often?
No .. There is a chart online. For DD they recommended a year I believe. Weekend warrior 6 months. Couple days at KOH daily.
Something like that

Great shock though. Price is not that bad either.
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 03:43 PM   #21
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Toledo
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by hbski View Post

The adjustable Kings look nice, but since I'm thinking the ~$750 Fox's are overkill for me, I doubt I'd be able to do ~$2k worth of shocks justice.

What does it run to get the Fox's rebuilt?

Another consideration for me for the Rancho's is the fact that I'll have varying loads......empty most of the time on the street and loaded to the gills for off-road camping......so the adjustable part is potentially very beneficial.....it works quite well on my truck going between empty and fully loaded!
fyi...I've got the non adjustable 2.5 reservoirs. I saw no need spending extra on the adjustable. King has it down for valving on the JK. You tell them what kind of use you intend to see. They take care of the rest.

If you go Fox I'd suggest you learn to rebuild them. I highly doubt they would need rebuilding every year for mainly street and some trails. If they don't leak and hold a charge they should be fine. Changing out the fluid once a year ( or two ) wouldn't be a bad idea thought. Shocks aren't that hard to work on. You would also learn a thing or two about your shocks. Fox has stainless steel shafts too. No rusting or flaking.

If you want to play it safe by all means put on the 9000's. If you want to live on the edge...ha..ha..Fox it is. If you don't know what you want .....stay with the 9000's but do you really want to crawl under your Jeep and adjust your shocks all the time ?

I wouldn't hesitate going with Fox if it's between them and the 9000's, but that's just me
xxxxxxxxxxxxxzy is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 04:10 PM   #22
gsn
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 574
Quote:
Originally Posted by xzy View Post
but do you really want to crawl under your Jeep and adjust your shocks all the time ?
And why would you want to do that "all the time"? The setting doesn't reset at every car turn off...
gsn is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 04:20 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
somis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Somis, CA
Posts: 759
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsn View Post
And why would you want to do that "all the time"? The setting doesn't reset at every car turn off...
hahaha mine did!
they sucked so bad anything bigger than a speed bump would send the dials spinning all the way back to #1 setting.
__________________
When in doubt...FLAT OUT!
somis is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 04:21 PM   #24
gsn
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 574
Quote:
Originally Posted by somis View Post
hahaha mine did!
they sucked so bad anything bigger than a speed bump would send the dials spinning all the way back to #1 setting.
Yours were not functioning properly/damaged, not really a valid point.
gsn is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 04:52 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
Lanespot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
If you run the 9000's. I always advise coating or even painting them. They will rust in some environments. Also remove the knobs and grease up the valve area. (Takes 10 mins). Do this and the shock will last a very long time
How would you do this? I just ordered a set of 9000's that I'm waiting on before I install my lift. What parts of the shock would you paint/coat? And is there a specific kind of paint or clear coat that you should get?

Thanks
Lanespot is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 06:27 PM
Thread Starter
  #27
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by xzy View Post
....If you go Fox I'd suggest you learn to rebuild them.....
Not a problem. If it hasn't been built, I can build it. If it has been, I can rebuild it (assuming I can find the time!). Afterall, I've owned several CJs over the last 30 years

Quote:
Originally Posted by xzy View Post
.....do you really want to crawl under your Jeep and adjust your shocks all the time ?....
Actually, Wouldn't NEED too. I have a myride that i got free with my truck shocks and never installed which I could use on the JK
__________________
Information gathered for free from the internet might just be worth what you paid for it
hbski is offline   Quote
Old 04-04-2014, 07:26 PM   #28
WF Moderator

WF Lifetime Member
WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 53,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanespot View Post
How would you do this? I just ordered a set of 9000's that I'm waiting on before I install my lift. What parts of the shock would you paint/coat? And is there a specific kind of paint or clear coat that you should get? Thanks
The body. I ran mine for over a year. The only areas of rust was where the shock was banged up/scratched. There was a post recently, and I asked what he used for clear coat.. I'll have to look for it.

kjeeper10 is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, Gladiator, Mopar and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to FCA US LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with FCA US LLC.