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Old 03-23-2017, 11:12 AM
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Sway Bar Link Question

This is probably a stupid question, but can someone tell me if the sway bar links are connected correctly on my jeep. The passenger side is connected on the opposite side as the driver side, so the angle is really different. This is my first jeep and I've only had it 8 days. Two days ago it started making this really loud whining sound that's coming from the front end. It happens around 20-30 miles an hour. That was the only thing that really looked off to me, but I really don't know a whole lot about cars.

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No, those are definitely bent in for whatever reason. They should be straight up and down, not leaning like that

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This is probably a stupid question, but can someone tell me if the sway bar links are connected correctly on my jeep. The passenger side is connected on the opposite side as the driver side, so the angle is really different. This is my first jeep and I've only had it 8 days. Two days ago it started making this really loud whining sound that's coming from the front end. It happens around 20-30 miles an hour. That was the only thing that really looked off to me, but I really don't know a whole lot about cars.
How much lift you got. I think those are two short for the lift and someone didn't put on longer ones. Depending on the lift size you can buy longer ones for the rear and move the rears to the front. That's normally done at 2.5-3 inches of lift. If it's more than that I would suggest get adjustable sway bar links for the front and regular size ones that are the size of the lift for the rear.
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@kjeeper10 what's your thoughts on how these look. Look pretty off to me
@jkustin if anyone will know for sure it will be that guy. Tell us details on how much lift you have and if they were swapped out.
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I'm really not sure what size the lift is. Im finding out that there's a ton of options with jeeps. I'm coming from the FJ world where there was pretty much just a 3" or 6". It has 35x12.50x20 mud grapplers, so I'm assuming it's on the higher end. Could that be causing the noise? It only had 15,000 miles so I'm hoping it's suspension related and not an engine issue.
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I'm really not sure what size the lift is. Im finding out that there's a ton of options with jeeps. I'm coming from the FJ world where there was pretty much just a 3" or 6". It has 35x12.50x20 mud grapplers, so I'm assuming it's on the higher end. Could that be causing the noise? It only had 15,000 miles so I'm hoping it's suspension related and not an engine issue.
I would find that out first, the lift size, it definitely looks to be 3-4 inches but it's hard to tell from a picture. This is what they should look like on your jeep. I took these pictures of mine. Mine could stand to be about a 1/4 inch longer. I have a 3" suspension lift with a 1-1/4 body lift.









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Ok so it looks like my passenger side is connected wrong at the bottom. That seems like the kind of stupid mistake I would make. Makes me worry about what else may have been improperly installed.
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Can't see that causing whining even if it is wrong.

I would agree that it looks like 3 to 4 inches of lift.

Either way, they look a little bit short. Might invest in some new ones that are just a bit longer.
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Like stated, those sway bar end links are probably not causing the whinning sound.

Have you checked fluid in front diff? Are tires wearing odd?
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I have not checked the differential fluid. I'll do that this evening when I'm fixing the sway bar link. The tires seem to be wearing evenly. I'm not sure if the previous owner rotated them regularly, so I was going to go ahead and do a rotation too.
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Ok so it looks like my passenger side is connected wrong at the bottom. That seems like the kind of stupid mistake I would make. Makes me worry about what else may have been improperly installed.
Correct... Now looking at your springs, it looks like you might have quite a bit of axle shift going on towards the drivers side. Can you take a picture of the track bar? I'm thinking you might be at 3.5 or 4" without an adjustable track bar or steering correction.

I suspect there are a number of things that need to be addressed. As said above though, not going to cause "whining" sounds.
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The noise couldn't possibly be wind noise from the light bar or even the stinger, could it?

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Here's more pics of the track bar. I'm certain it's not the wind against the light bar. I picked it up 5 hours away, so I got used to that constant whistling really quick. This is something new.
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Here's more pics of the track bar. I'm certain it's not the wind against the light bar. I picked it up 5 hours away, so I got used to that constant whistling really quick. This is something new.
Looks like someone threw some springs on and a dual steering stabilizer setup and just said I'm done. As far as the noise goes, try to get a video of the sound and post it on here so we can get a idea of how it sounds. It could be a number of things. I'd would definitely get the axles squared up. You got some serious shifting issues going on there. I'd look into removing that dual stabilizer setup as well, I never liked them.
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check to make sure your brake shields at not bent or slightly touching your rotors
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I'm pretty sure that it's not engine related, sounds more like a vibration of some sort. I'd check and see if there is anything loose or hitting against something under there. Seems like there may be a lot to address with this lift.
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This is probably a stupid question, but can someone tell me if the sway bar links are connected correctly on my jeep. The passenger side is connected on the opposite side as the driver side, so the angle is really different. This is my first jeep and I've only had it 8 days. Two days ago it started making this really loud whining sound that's coming from the front end. It happens around 20-30 miles an hour. That was the only thing that really looked off to me, but I really don't know a whole lot about cars.
That looks like the sway bar is shifted towards the passenger side, and the passenger side link is bolted to the wrong side at the axle.
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Yeah it seems like someone did a half ass lift job. How's it driving I'm pretty curious on that. With axle shifted like that it has to be wandering badly to the right.

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Here's more pics of the track bar. I'm certain it's not the wind against the light bar. I picked it up 5 hours away, so I got used to that constant whistling really quick. This is something new.
As for the installation, it definitely looks like about 4" with a stock track bar. What happens is the axle shifts to the drivers side as you lift. So you either put on an adjustable track bar or you use steering correction which includes a raised track bar bracket and a drag link flip to correct the geometry.

If you stand in front of the Jeep and look at the front springs, do they both look like they curve to the drivers side as they go downward?

Is there any geometry brackets or aftermarket control arms? I'm wondering if they did any caster correction... If not, we can really make some improvements for not a ton of $$.
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As for the installation, it definitely looks like about 4" with a stock track bar. What happens is the axle shifts to the drivers side as you lift. So you either put on an adjustable track bar or you use steering correction which includes a raised track bar bracket and a drag link flip to correct the geometry.

If you stand in front of the Jeep and look at the front springs, do they both look like they curve to the drivers side as they go downward?

Is there any geometry brackets or aftermarket control arms? I'm wondering if they did any caster correction... If not, we can really make some improvements for not a ton of $$.
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Sounds like a cv joint going bad on your drive shaft. Check the boot on the cv joint. Does it make the noise while stopped? If so its not the drive shaft.

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From the front the passenger side spring definitely leans toward the driver side. The drivers side spring looks pretty straight. It doesn't have any issues when I'm driving it though. I can take my hands off the wheel and it drives pretty straight.
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Doesn't look like it has any after market control arms or geometry brackets either. It only makes the sounds from about 20-30 mph too.
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From the front the passenger side spring definitely leans toward the driver side. The drivers side spring looks pretty straight. It doesn't have any issues when I'm driving it though. I can take my hands off the wheel and it drives pretty straight.
How is it at 60 on the freeway?

I'll try to check out the video when I get home...
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Just took it for a ride down the interstate to double check. It rides perfectly straight. Checked the differential fluid and cv also. Both were fine.
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Just took it for a ride down the interstate to double check. It rides perfectly straight. Checked the differential fluid and cv also. Both were fine.
Ok, it might have cam bolts for caster in the front axle.

Do you have a mold line in the middle of the tire that you could use to measure to the frame on both sides?
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I have mud grapplers so it's kind of hard to find a middle point that's the same on both side. They just look like claws. I did take a level to the springs and found that they were both tilted to the drivers side about an inch
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I took it into the shop today before work. The just called at said it was the wheel bearing going out. They told me I'd probably be replacing it every few months with the set up I have. So I guess my question now is there an upgraded wheel bearing I can buy or do I need to address the suspension components to handle the problem?
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I took it into the shop today before work. The just called at said it was the wheel bearing going out. They told me I'd probably be replacing it every few months with the set up I have. So I guess my question now is there an upgraded wheel bearing I can buy or do I need to address the suspension components to handle the problem?
I'm not sure exactly what the setup is but I am still running my stock bearings on mine and I've had 35x12.5-17 tires since it had 30,000 miles on it and I'm at almost a 100,000 miles. I hope they were referring to the setup you have, I believe if you address some of those issues then will solve a lot of problems.

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