The problems with new wheels... - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Like Tree4Likes
  • 3 Post By dwtgolden
  • 1 Post By YnotAJeep
Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 10-04-2019, 07:49 PM
Thread Starter
  #1
Newb
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: SoPo Maine
Posts: 7
The problems with new wheels...

Hey all,

First off, thanks for the great info on every topic imaginable. Having searched the forum countless times, I’ve finally signed up.

Last weekend, I swapped out the stock wheels on my 2012. New rims and tires all around. Had them installed professionally.

On the drive home, developed a nasty speed wobble from 45- 55ish. Clears at about 60 and clears when I’m under 45. Balance issue?

Also, I knew it going in that I’d have the TPMS light with this setup. Also a slight size difference. Any suggestions on the chip device to clear that out / calibrate wheels?

JefeVonJefe is offline   Quote
Old 10-04-2019, 11:09 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
dwtgolden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 661
First thing I would do is remove the wheels and make sure that the rotor retaining clips were removed. The factory places a retainer clip, looks similar to a washer, on the wheel studs to hold the rotors in place during assembly. The factory wheels are machines to clear these retainers, but most aftermarket wheels will not clear them. This can cause the wheel to not seat properly against the hub face. If the retainers have already been removed, I would go back to the installer to have the balance rechecked.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Wandell, RAMM241 and Lemotan like this.

dwtgolden is offline   Quote
Old 10-05-2019, 12:06 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
YnotAJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: La Verne, Calif.
Posts: 3,687
Are your new wheels hub centric or lug centric. Tires are balanced using the hub. If they are lug centric you can get a ring to hub center the rim. You might need to have them road force balanced. That requires a special machine.
Lemotan likes this.
__________________
2014 JKUR, Leather and everything inside, 4 inch OME springs, all Alpine arms, Adams front driveshaft, Falcon 2.1's, Adj track bars front and rear, heavy bumpers and winch, ICON rims and 315-70-17 BFG KO2's, ARB diff covers, ProComp LED's, 2 Bernese Mtn dogs.
Previously 2001 XJ lifted 5, SYE, True-tracks F & R.
CJ7, 304V8, auto, loaded, Detroit rear, and more.
90 Bronco,, 76 Bronco,, 70 Bronco
YnotAJeep is offline   Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 10-05-2019, 12:18 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
pkdailey4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Alameda, California
Posts: 671
What wheels and tire did you get?
__________________
Chrysler POS
pkdailey4 is online now   Quote
Old 10-05-2019, 02:24 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
Wandell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwtgolden View Post
First thing I would do is remove the wheels and make sure that the rotor retaining clips were removed. The factory places a retainer clip, looks similar to a washer, on the wheel studs to hold the rotors in place during assembly. The factory wheels are machines to clear these retainers, but most aftermarket wheels will not clear them. This can cause the wheel to not seat properly against the hub face. If the retainers have already been removed, I would go back to the installer to have the balance rechecked.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk



I agree. Odds are, they forgot to remove the retaining clips.
__________________
2011 JKU, 3.8v6, automatic, 2.5 inch lift, 35 inch Nitto Trail Grapplers on 17x9 Eagle Alloy 197 wheels
Wandell is offline   Quote
Old 10-05-2019, 03:16 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
YnotAJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: La Verne, Calif.
Posts: 3,687
Please tell us the specs of your new rims and tires.
__________________
2014 JKUR, Leather and everything inside, 4 inch OME springs, all Alpine arms, Adams front driveshaft, Falcon 2.1's, Adj track bars front and rear, heavy bumpers and winch, ICON rims and 315-70-17 BFG KO2's, ARB diff covers, ProComp LED's, 2 Bernese Mtn dogs.
Previously 2001 XJ lifted 5, SYE, True-tracks F & R.
CJ7, 304V8, auto, loaded, Detroit rear, and more.
90 Bronco,, 76 Bronco,, 70 Bronco
YnotAJeep is offline   Quote
Old 10-07-2019, 01:38 PM
Thread Starter
  #7
Newb
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: SoPo Maine
Posts: 7
Got the Dick Cepek Torque rims in 18x8.5

For tires, I picked the Falken Wildpeak AT3W in 255 70 18

Timing sucks for getting back to the tire shop until mid week. Gonna check for the retainers and maybe rotate today to see if it’s a balance issue.
JefeVonJefe is offline   Quote
Old 10-07-2019, 06:33 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
PlaynWithFire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by JefeVonJefe View Post
Also, I knew it going in that I’d have the TPMS light with this setup. Also a slight size difference. Any suggestions on the chip device to clear that out / calibrate wheels?
Regarding the TPMS light, if have sensors in your new wheels if so it should read them after a short drive. If you don't have the sensors I think you are stuck with the light being on. As for adjusting for your new tire size you can use something like ProCal or JScan.
PlaynWithFire is offline   Quote
Old 10-08-2019, 08:57 AM
Thread Starter
  #9
Newb
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: SoPo Maine
Posts: 7
For shame. I didn’t read the sticky thread carefully. Those damn retainers made all the difference. The guys at the shop were shocked when I told them what it was. They sure were a pain to remove. Didn’t Sammy Hagar once say something about driving at 55? Well, I can do that now.
JefeVonJefe is offline   Quote
Old 10-08-2019, 08:58 AM
Thread Starter
  #10
Newb
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: SoPo Maine
Posts: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlaynWithFire View Post
Regarding the TPMS light, if have sensors in your new wheels if so it should read them after a short drive. If you don't have the sensors I think you are stuck with the light being on. As for adjusting for your new tire size you can use something like ProCal or JScan.
The light is on! At least it just dings once and shuts up.
JefeVonJefe is offline   Quote
Old 10-08-2019, 09:08 AM   #11
Jeeper
 
rgreen65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: S. Georgia
Posts: 6,152
I am surprised that the tire shop did not mention the lack of TPMS sensors when they mounted the wheels. Since the wheels were new, they had to install valve stems. The wheel tire pressure sensors are attached to a valve stem (one piece) which most fully equipped tire shops would have (at a price). The least they could have done was mention the lack of sensors being installed on that new of a vehicle.

After all, the Wrangler was late to that feature.

Since your rotors still had the clips, that means they are the original that were still installed after 7 years, must not have too many miles on it.
__________________
2003 Light Khaki TJ Rubicon, Manual, Soft Top
2015 Anvil JKU Sahara, Auto, Hard Top - Traded
2017 Chief JKU Chief, Auto, Hard Top
rgreen65 is offline   Quote
Old 10-08-2019, 10:28 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
ReconMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 15
For the TPMS light, check out the jscan app. In the Adaptations section, it lets you enable and disable TPMS all together. When I bought my Jeep, the previous owner had TPMS disabled. There was no warning light and the tires all read 0 PSI in the EVIC. I used jscan to reenable TPMS and adjust the target pressure to the range I wanted.

So to be clear, I have only used jscan to re-enable TPMS but if you want, I can confirm that it can also fully disable it for you.

ReconMike is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Jeep, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, Gladiator, Mopar and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to FCA US LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with FCA US LLC.