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Old 01-17-2020, 08:23 PM
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I have 2014 JK Sport, completely stock. I have been having a problem of bad vibration from the front feels like in the middle at speeds 60-65 mph. I donít feel it until she hits highway speeds. I dropped Jeep at dealer for repair. Tech Dx bad U Joint. So dealership orders stock Mopar replacement part and mechanic goes to install it and it doesnít fit! Stock Wrangler like she rolled out of Toledo with the parts Fiat/Chrysler gave her. They ordered a new one, go to install second one, nope; doesnít fit! Shop Foreman says he never saw this in all of his years. I have Max Care Service Contract, so they are asking Chrysler if they can order aftermarket U Joint to fit. So I ask what the literal, Hell??? Has anyone else experienced this?

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ANYONE with a mechanical background have anything to offer here. I’m at a loss to understand. And, I can’t imagine Jeep would authorize aftermarket parts for Max Care Warranty. More importantly, WHY doesn’t the stock u joints fit on a stock Jeep? Please Jeep has been the shop for a week. I want to call Chrysler but I would like to have some info from here first. Thank you.

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ANYONE with a mechanical background have anything to offer here. I’m at a loss to understand. And, I can’t imagine Jeep would authorize aftermarket parts for Max Care Warranty. More importantly, WHY doesn’t the stock u joints fit on a stock Jeep? Please Jeep has been the shop for a week. I want to call Chrysler but I would like to have some info from here first. Thank you.

Jeep would not authorize aftermarket parts.
Are you the original owner?
Did you ever have any front end work done on it?
What exactly on the joint is not fitting?
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Make the call, their toll free number should be in your Max Care documents.. and FCA owner relations 1 (800) 334-9200
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possibly a PO somehow messed up the front driveshaft and replaced it with an aftermarket one
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It sounds like the dealer is incompetent.
As I recall, there are two different u-joint used in JK / JKU front axles. It sounds like the dealer ordered the same wrong one twice.
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possibly a PO somehow messed up the front driveshaft and replaced it with an aftermarket one
No. I am original owner so, I know that did not happen.
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It sounds like the dealer is incompetent.
As I recall, there are two different u-joint used in JK / JKU front axles. It sounds like the dealer ordered the same wrong one twice.
Never had a problem with this dealership until this visit. And of course, every time I call tech is never available.
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Jeep would not authorize aftermarket parts.
Are you the original owner?
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What exactly on the joint is not fitting?
Thanks Bob. I didnít think Jeep would authorize aftermarket parts. No front end work done. I donít know what doesnít fit. Iíve only been told that they ordered twice and both times part didnít fit. I am going to call Jeep.
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I have a 2015 JKU with Dana 3.73 front axle.
I removed the stock U-joints in the driver and passenger side axle shafts. I browsed online for a while and most websites said that a Spicer 5-760x would fit. But, the end caps are too short, or so it seems. They don't reach the outer edge of the joint like the stock ones did. This guy had the same problem:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077MG3KNJ...ustomerReviews


At this time, I honestly don't know what replacement U-joints to install in them.
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I have a 2015 JKU with Dana 3.73 front axle.
I removed the stock U-joints in the driver and passenger side axle shafts. I browsed online for a while and most websites said that a Spicer 5-760x would fit. But, the end caps are too short, or so it seems. They don't reach the outer edge of the joint like the stock ones did. This guy had the same problem:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077MG3KNJ...ustomerReviews
At this time, I honestly don't know what replacement U-joints to install in them.
Sounds to me like you need a DANA SPICER 5-7166X
Utilizes inside "C" Clips to lock u-joint in place.
Dimension A = 2.405 inches
Dimension B = 2.405 inches
Dimension C = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )
Dimension D = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )


This is the one you are trying to install, SPICER 5-760X, note the difference in ring retainer groove.
Dimension A = 2.188 inches ( 2 3/16 inches )
Dimension B = 2.188 inches ( 2 3/16 inches )
Dimension C = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )
Dimension D = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )


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I have 2014 JK Sport, completely stock. I have been having a problem of bad vibration from the front feels like in the middle at speeds 60-65 mph. I don’t feel it until she hits highway speeds. I dropped Jeep at dealer for repair. Tech Dx bad U Joint. So dealership orders stock Mopar replacement part and mechanic goes to install it and it doesn’t fit! Stock Wrangler like she rolled out of Toledo with the parts Fiat/Chrysler gave her. They ordered a new one, go to install second one, nope; doesn’t fit! Shop Foreman says he never saw this in all of his years. I have Max Care Service Contract, so they are asking Chrysler if they can order aftermarket U Joint to fit. So I ask what the literal, Hell??? Has anyone else experienced this?
Hard for me to say without knowing which u-joint you are speaking of.
If it is in fact your outer axle shaft u-joint, see above reply.

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I have a 2015 JKU with Dana 3.73 front axle.
I removed the stock U-joints in the driver and passenger side axle shafts. I browsed online for a while and most websites said that a Spicer 5-760x would fit. But, the end caps are too short, or so it seems. They don't reach the outer edge of the joint like the stock ones did. This guy had the same problem:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077MG3KNJ...ustomerReviews


At this time, I honestly don't know what replacement U-joints to install in them.
every parts house has the incorrect joint listed for the non-rubicon models.
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Sounds to me like you need a DANA SPICER 5-7166X
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I replaced the right u joint with stock. The new one was a very tight fit getting the retainer put in. Well I needed the thing in, so I hit the cap with a bigger hammer. I did get retainer in the groove then. That must have drove the caps in tight and pushed the other retainer to be concave some what.
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Sounds to me like you need a DANA SPICER 5-7166X
Utilizes inside "C" Clips to lock u-joint in place.
Dimension A = 2.405 inches
Dimension B = 2.405 inches
Dimension C = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )
Dimension D = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )


This is the one you are trying to install, SPICER 5-760X, note the difference in ring retainer groove.
Dimension A = 2.188 inches ( 2 3/16 inches )
Dimension B = 2.188 inches ( 2 3/16 inches )
Dimension C = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )
Dimension D = 1.188 inches ( 1 3/16 inches )




Hard for me to say without knowing which u-joint you are speaking of.
If it is in fact your outer axle shaft u-joint, see above reply.

Hope this helps you both.
Great info to have.
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on my ujoint the groove was only half showing, with clip on other side and butted up to stop. I guess i seated the caps to proper place but took a good smack to do it. They now have 10,000 plus miles on them so no damage done. U joint I did on other car had external clips, so they were not an issue trying to seat. M yokes are angled next to groove in u joint, so clip is fully seated in groove now, but only touching yoke on a small portion of the clip. On external clips they bear on full clip. I had powered brushed yokes clean, before installing new u joint. When I was a kid, I carried tools and u joints in my vette, due to my hammering the throttle.
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Installed the 5-7166X U-joints today and they fit perfectly. I do think the situation is somewhat complicated. Apparently there was a design change at some point, so the 5-760X U-joint may fit for some, and the 5-7166X for others. Not sure when the year cut off is. It would be best to remove the old U-joint, measure, and then order the appropriate U-joint. Obviously this will require a few days without a vehicle (maybe).
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Installed the 5-7166X U-joints today and they fit perfectly. I do think the situation is somewhat complicated. Apparently there was a design change at some point, so the 5-760X U-joint may fit for some, and the 5-7166X for others. Not sure when the year cut off is. It would be best to remove the old U-joint, measure, and then order the appropriate U-joint. Obviously this will require a few days without a vehicle (maybe).
Glad you got it rolling.

That said, this is a relatively easy thing to do if you have a vise (more common) or a press (less common), and some calipers. OíReilly auto carries Spicer branded parts, as well.
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Glad you got it rolling.

That said, this is a relatively easy thing to do if you have a vise (more common) or a press (less common), and some calipers. O’Reilly auto carries Spicer branded parts, as well.

Fortunately I have a Dake press. I wasn't aware about O'Reilly and Spicer. Good to know. I looked up my local stores availability, and online it says it would be 24-48 hours to order (they don't have it in stock). I think Amazon can get the 5-7166X same day or next day depending on cut off time. I think best case scenario for most people is a day without a vehicle.

Or, I guess someone could always buy 3 of each model number beforehand. I say 3 because it's always good to buy a spare U-joint when you're replacing them just in case you screw one up. Then just return the 3 you don't use. That way there is no day downtime. Problem with that is you have to fork over more money to buy 6 U-joints.
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I did u-joints on my 2014 JKURX after owning it for 4 years and ran into a similar problem with fitment of the listed replacements. I tried two different types as well as some dremel grinding to get them to fit. I did finally get them to fit, even after badly damaging one of the caps and having to order another u-joint. At the time, the story was the (Rubicon) axle u-joints were not meant to be serviceable and you had to order the complete axle shaft/joint assembly.
Long story short: I'm running RCV axles now.


I wonder if this is the same issue with the Sport?
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Fortunately I have a Dake press. I wasn't aware about O'Reilly and Spicer. Good to know. I looked up my local stores availability, and online it says it would be 24-48 hours to order (they don't have it in stock). I think Amazon can get the 5-7166X same day or next day depending on cut off time. I think best case scenario for most people is a day without a vehicle.

Or, I guess someone could always buy 3 of each model number beforehand. I say 3 because it's always good to buy a spare U-joint when you're replacing them just in case you screw one up. Then just return the 3 you don't use. That way there is no day downtime. Problem with that is you have to fork over more money to buy 6 U-joints.
This is what I do when not sure which is the correct part. Order both and return what is not needed.
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Or, I guess someone could always buy 3 of each model number beforehand. I say 3 because it's always good to buy a spare U-joint when you're replacing them just in case you screw one up. Then just return the 3 you don't use. That way there is no day downtime. Problem with that is you have to fork over more money to buy 6 U-joints.
I on the other hand would only buy two of each. Then after installing the correct ones, return the other two and buy an third correct one for a spare. That way you are out less money at the outset.

The Spicer 5-760X fits the TJ Rubicons. As stated, it may also fit the early JKs but not the later ones.

Just checked the O'Reilly website and the one they list for my 2017 is the 7-2166X.
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Just checked the O'Reilly website and the one they list for my 2017 is the 7-2166X.
That must be a typo error, or a house brand u-joint
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Installed the 5-7166X U-joints today and they fit perfectly. I do think the situation is somewhat complicated. Apparently there was a design change at some point, so the 5-760X U-joint may fit for some, and the 5-7166X for others. Not sure when the year cut off is. It would be best to remove the old U-joint, measure, and then order the appropriate U-joint. Obviously this will require a few days without a vehicle (maybe).
In my adventure we thought there might have been a cut-over to the larger joint in 2012 with the new engine/trans additions, until I helped a friend on her 2007 sport and it had the same larger 5-7166X joints.
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That must be a typo error, or a house brand u-joint

No, the listing plainly says Spicer.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/t...s+-+axle+shaft
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No, the listing plainly says Spicer.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/t...s+-+axle+shaft
Spicer does not list a 7-2166X in their parts list.
must have been your typo, the number is 5-7166X.

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I did u-joints on my 2014 JKURX after owning it for 4 years and ran into a similar problem with fitment of the listed replacements. I tried two different types as well as some dremel grinding to get them to fit. I did finally get them to fit, even after badly damaging one of the caps and having to order another u-joint. At the time, the story was the (Rubicon) axle u-joints were not meant to be serviceable and you had to order the complete axle shaft/joint assembly.
Long story short: I'm running RCV axles now.


I wonder if this is the same issue with the Sport?
I am the OP. This whole thing has been a debacle! My Jeep has been at the dealership for almost a month and they can’t get ANY Mopar U joints to fit a completely STOCK 2014 JK Sport! I contacted Chrysler Customer Care who today advised that Jeep sent out an engineer who confirmed the stock part does not fit. I mentioned The Spicer 7166X. They are waiting for Chrysler Max Care to approve “aftermarket” part. I’ll keep you posted. At this point I wonder if an entire front axle replacement WOULD be better!

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