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Old 03-14-2016, 10:34 AM
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What happened?

So I got in the jeep this morning, and I started it up and this horrible rattling/racketing sound started happening. I turned it off almost immediately. So I put it in neutral and rolled it out of the garage. Opened the hood and there like black plastic / rubbery looking stuff that looks like it's been melted and spun off all over. Get to looking and I find this. Not real savvy when it comes to this stuff. I have no idea what this is or what happened to it or how to fix it. It's on the drivers side kinda half way towards the bottom of the engine. I'm just about to sell/trade this in once my new one gets shipped. Help?!?!?

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Old 03-14-2016, 10:37 AM
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Is that the A/C compressor? If it is, there is a clutch that engages and disengages the compressor. Maybe the compressor went Kaboom?!?!

Guessing you need new A/C compressor and belt. The compressor should come as an assembly with the pulley/clutch/compressor.
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Looks like the A/C compressor clutch melted or the bearings went bad in the comprssor...can't tell in the picture. Fairly easy fix in a shop, but if you do it at home, you'll need A/C gages and a way to capture the gas.
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I'm not sure. Dammit. Sounds expensive. More expensive than I want in a jeep I'm getting rid of in a few weeks anyway.
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Would there be a way to run it without the ac compressor? Like remove the compressor and put a different belt on or something like that? It's a soft top jeep, it doesn't need ac lol.
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Old 03-14-2016, 01:18 PM
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Would there be a way to run it without the ac compressor? Like remove the compressor and put a different belt on or something like that? It's a soft top jeep, it doesn't need ac lol.
Can't just run a belt for a non-ac jeep, just tried that. Belts too long, looks like there's supposed to be another pulley to the left of the compressor. Any ideas? I can't find a serpentine belt diagram for non-ac 3.8L
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Would there be a way to run it without the ac compressor? Like remove the compressor and put a different belt on or something like that? It's a soft top jeep, it doesn't need ac lol.
I think you can replace just the AC clutch assembly.

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Old 03-14-2016, 01:30 PM
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I think you can replace just the AC clutch assembly.
Will I need to mess with gauges and the ac gases and stuff? Or strictly straight mechanical?
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Will I need to mess with gauges and the ac gases and stuff? Or strictly straight mechanical?
I believe it is strictly mechanical. You would not be disconnecting any hoses. But I have never done this myself, so don't take it as gospel.

I found this post that may give you some insight into replacing the clutch.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f210/tr...h-1643473.html

I also found this clutch for sale.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Compresso...25.m3641.l6368
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Old 03-15-2016, 11:40 PM
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I really don't want to deal with ordering the parts and spending $100-200 on this thing. Anybody know how to convert this to non-ac? I can't just use a non ac belt, another pulley is in the way. Is there another pulley I need to buy and take off the compressor? I can't find a serpentine diagram for a non-ac 3.8 jeep...
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Just fix the thing, you are going to hate yourself in the summer.
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If selling it in a few weeks a working a/c is a difference of 1400 to 1800$ in resale value.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:04 AM
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Just fix the thing, you are going to hate yourself in the summer.
Nope. I'm selling it and even if I wasn't, I wouldn't use the ac anyway.
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If selling it in a few weeks a working a/c is a difference of 1400 to 1800$ in resale value.
I don't really think it's going to make that much of a difference to anyone. It's a soft top jeep with half doors. Ac isn't necessary.
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If you really want to bypass the AC, it looks like you have to actually remove all the AC components (compressor, lines, condensor, etc) and replace the compressor with a pulley wheel like this: http://www.autozone.com/1/products/4...man-34237.html

Then you'll have the problem that the console controls in the jeep have options for AC, but there isn't actually any AC on the vehicle. Have fun explaining that while trying to sell it. There's also a chance that there will be a trouble code triggered by not having the AC clutch wiring connected.

If only the AC compressor clutch assembly is the problem, and can be replaced on its own (leaving the compressor itself in place), then actually repairing the problem will likely be less work that removing AC altogether.
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Old 03-16-2016, 11:08 AM
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If you really want to bypass the AC, it looks like you have to actually remove all the AC components (compressor, lines, condensor, etc) and replace the compressor with a pulley wheel like this: http://www.autozone.com/1/products/4...man-34237.html Then you'll have the problem that the console controls in the jeep have options for AC, but there isn't actually any AC on the vehicle. Have fun explaining that while trying to sell it. If only the AC compressor clutch assembly is the problem, and can be replaced on its own (leaving the compressor itself in place), then actually repairing the problem will likely be less work that removing AC altogether.
The problem is I can't find anywhere that you can replace just the clutch on the 3.8. Someone posted a link to one, but I can't find anywhere else that shows it as being compatible. The dealer, parts stores, online nowhere shows you being able to replace just the clutch. You have to go whole hog on the compressor.

Someone show me a link to a legitimate site (not eBay) that's selling just the clutch and I will GLADLY spend the $100 to replace it. It would make this a lot easier. I'm not going to chance buying an ac clutch for a 1998 Ford Taurus that some shadetree jackass mechanic mixed up in his jeep parts box.

As far as selling it without ac when there's controls for it on the dash, not a big deal. I tell the buyer what happened and why I did it that way. There are a lot of vehicles I see being sold where the "AC doesn't work"
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Even paying ~$300 for an aftermarket or remanufactured complete compressor would probably end up being overall less cost in combined time/money/effort than converting the vehicle to no AC. Plus, as mentioned, removing AC will reduce resale value, especially if the vehicle still has AC controls in it.

It doesn't matter that you don't care about having AC. other people do. Even if they don't really care about AC, they will use the lack of AC as reason to pay less. As a buyer, I would be especially suspicious of a vehicle that had AC removed for no good reason (good reasons would be to make room for other amazing components like major performance upgrades, etc).
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There are a lot of vehicles I see being sold where the "AC doesn't work"
There's a big difference between "AC system was completely removed to avoid a spending a few hundred dollars to repair it" and "AC doesn't work", meaning it needs some repairs (often replacing a leaking line and recharge the system; relatively inexpensive).

It would be expensive for the next owner to convert the vehicle back to AC after you completely removed it.
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Let's be clear here. I'm in no way planning on lying or being dishonest or misleading any potential buyer. I would tell them exactly what I did and why. So anyone on a high horse about that can just relax.

Also, it's not really the money I'm spending on the part, (although that's outrageous) it's the ridiculous amount I'm sure any shop will charge me to do it. Regardless, I'm going to check the salvage yards around. There's not many but maybe I'll come up with something.
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Let's be clear here. I'm in no way planning on lying or being dishonest or misleading any potential buyer. I would tell them exactly what I did and why. So anyone on a high horse about that can just relax.

Also, it's not really the money I'm spending on the part, (although that's outrageous) it's the ridiculous amount I'm sure any shop will charge me to do it. Regardless, I'm going to check the salvage yards around. There's not many but maybe I'll come up with something.
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I would have happily done without AC had that been an option.
Throw in some hubs and I'd have thrown cash at them.
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I don't really think it's going to make that much of a difference to anyone. It's a soft top jeep with half doors. Ac isn't necessary.
I'd look at it and say what else has he failed to fix... and I'd offer at least $5K less... Actually I'd walk. I hate buying horror stories... FIX IT.
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If you don't want to spend a lot of money, find one at a junk yard and throw it on. Don't worry about freon, sell it telling people what you did and take the lower offer. That will keep you running until you sell it.
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I'd look at it and say what else has he failed to fix... and I'd offer at least $5K less... Actually I'd walk. I hate buying horror stories... FIX IT.
Exactly this. It's not a matter of being on a high horse accusing you of planning to be misleading. Even with a completely honest explanation that you removed the AC system to save money instead of repairing it, I would still run away from the deal. I would wonder what other hidden things in the vehicle you might have taken short-cuts on to save money that you're not telling me about.

If you're paying a shop to do the work, it will probably cost about the same or more overall to have them convert to no AC (properly) rather than than to replace the AC compressor. And again... consider the change in resale value, not just the cost of repairing vs removing.
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If you don't want to spend a lot of money, find one at a junk yard and throw it on. Don't worry about freon, sell it telling people what you did and take the lower offer. That will keep you running until you sell it.
This, put one on and tell the perspective buyer it doesn't work, although you may be able to find a guy that will draw it down, purge it and fill it and it may work fine. I would, however, pull the fuse on it so now one inadvertantly turns it on and you end up with the same scenario
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If you don't want to spend a lot of money, find one at a junk yard and throw it on. Don't worry about freon, sell it telling people what you did and take the lower offer. That will keep you running until you sell it.
Found one in a salvage yard for $140. That's the plan. Thanks everyone.
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Found one in a salvage yard for $140. That's the plan. Thanks everyone.
Actually I was able to go on rockauto and they had a close out on one for $135 so I got a pretty good deal. Still not happy to have had to do this anyway though.
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You might as well put freon on it then if it is that cheap. Will make the value a lot better when you sell it.
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You might as well put freon on it then if it is that cheap. Will make the value a lot better when you sell it.
Yep, planning on it. Thanks everyone for the help.

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