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Old 10-05-2019, 05:06 PM
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What's my Unlimited's towing weight

Hi all. I'm going crazy trying to figure out the towing capacity on my 4-door 2014 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport (V6). I'm getting all kinds of differing answers. One Jeep dealership told me that all 4-door Wranglers have a 3,500-lb tow weight (2-doors have a 2,000), but I read online that some 4-door Wranglers with a 3.21 axle ratio, which limits the towing weight to 2,000 lbs. Did they make Wrangler 4-doors that have 3.21 axle ratios and 3.73? Thanks in advance for your help.

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What does the GVWR say on the door sticker?

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Hi all. I'm going crazy trying to figure out the towing capacity on my 4-door 2014 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport (V6). I'm getting all kinds of differing answers. One Jeep dealership told me that all 4-door Wranglers have a 3,500-lb tow weight (2-doors have a 2,000), but I read online that some 4-door Wranglers with a 3.21 axle ratio, which limits the towing weight to 2,000 lbs. Did they make Wrangler 4-doors that have 3.21 axle ratios and 3.73? Thanks in advance for your help.

I want to say 2,000 with 3.21 gears. It was 3,500 with the max tow package, which added 3.73 gears IIRC. I know for 2015 they didn't have max tow on the Willys, but my 2015 with 3.73 was rated at 3,500. This should also be in your owners manual.
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Door sticker says GVWR is 5400 LB
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My 2014 JKU with 3:21 and auto trans was 2000.
I think it was 2016 when Jeep changed the 3:21 4 door tow ratings.
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Hmmm, does it make a difference whether one is a manual vs automatic?
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My 2015 Manual (I no longer have the vehicle but still have the downloaded manual) shows for all two doors the maximum trailer weight is 2000 pounds. For a four door, it is 2,000 pounds for those with 3.21 differentials, 3,500 pounds with either the 3.73 or 4.10 gears. The limits are the same for auto and manual transmissions.

FWIW - they did have a max towing package available in 2015. When I was researching my 2015 in the on line configuration module it showed up. The Max tow was a combination of the trailer wiring, hitch installation and 3.73 gearing. Both the differential ratio and trailer hitch/wiring were available separately. I actually saw a 2017 on a dealer's website that had both individual items ($495 each for a total of $990) rather than the Max Towing package ($895).
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@Stitches1974 My 2015 Willys came with Max Tow. Since the Willys came factory with 3.73 gears, max tow is listed on the window sticker as just the hitch and wiring @ $495. So yeah, $500 for a hitch lol

@OP, as stated above, Towing capacity with 3.21 gears is 2000 lbs, 3.73 gears is 3500 lbs.
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So yeah, $500 for a hitch lol

... and the wiring harness pre-installed.
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@Stitches1974 My 2015 Willys came with Max Tow. Since the Willys came factory with 3.73 gears, max tow is listed on the window sticker as just the hitch and wiring @ $495. So yeah, $500 for a hitch lol
That's true, but there still was no option for the Willys called max tow. You just had a Willys with a tow package.
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That's true, but there still was no option for the Willys called max tow. You just had a Willys with a tow package.
Could be. The option listed on my window sticker said "Max Tow" though. Still says it actually. I was curious so I pulled the sticker out of the filing cabinet. Max Tow, $495, hitch, wiring, 4 pin connector.

At any rate. Arguing on the Internet makes us look like that jackass that runs that other forum. At the end of the day, it was a $500 hitch
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Did they make Wrangler 4-doors that have 3.21 axle ratios and 3.73? Thanks in advance for your help.
For 2014 the standard gears for Sport, Sport S and Sahara are 3.21. 3.73 are an available option.
Max Tow package and Willys package both have 3.73. That's Max Tow, not the regular tow package.
Rubicon manuals have 4.10, autos have 3.73 standard with an option of 4.10.

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I regularly tow a travel trailer just under the 3500 pound limit with my 2015 JKUR. Happy to answer any questions. If you plan to tow more than 2500 or so, I'd strongly recommend a weight distribution system. It made towing MUCH more pleasant, and certainly safer.
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Tow Capacity

Read the manual. I learned the hard way. Bought a 2018 JL 2 door, told it had a 3500 tow capicity. After a LOT of research, it still has a 2000 lb capacity. Same gears, same transmission, same everything except 2 more doors. The wheel base is the problem. Makes everything unstable. So I strongly urge you to read the manual. I guess if have a 4 door you can up your gear ratio, but on a 2 door it just "don't" help.
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Note that he said he has an unlimited. That's four doors.
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Hi all. I'm going crazy trying to figure out the towing capacity on my 4-door 2014 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport (V6). I'm getting all kinds of differing answers. One Jeep dealership told me that all 4-door Wranglers have a 3,500-lb tow weight (2-doors have a 2,000), but I read online that some 4-door Wranglers with a 3.21 axle ratio, which limits the towing weight to 2,000 lbs. Did they make Wrangler 4-doors that have 3.21 axle ratios and 3.73? Thanks in advance for your help.
I feel your frustration. It is very hard to get that info. I went thru the same thing. Here is the answer:

If you have a (standard) JKU Sport, then the towing is rated for 2,000lb

If you have a JKU Rubicon, then the towing is rated for 3,500lb

I don't have any idea if a towing package will change this 2,000lb limit

By the way, if you have a soft top, U-Haul will not rent you a trailer no matter how small it is.
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What does the GVWR say on the door sticker?
GVWR is a rating for that actual weight of the vehicle and it's load. It has nothing to do with what is behind it (other than the tongue weight of the trailer).
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I feel your frustration. It is very hard to get that info. I went thru the same thing. Here is the answer:

If you have a (standard) JKU Sport, then the towing is rated for 2,000lb Not correct - if you have 3.21 diffs, 2000 lbs, if you have 3.73 diffs, it's 3,500 lbs.

If you have a JKU Rubicon, then the towing is rated for 3,500lb Correct, because it does not have 3.21 Diffs

I don't have any idea if a towing package will change this 2,000lb limit It doesn't. The tow rating is based on wheelbase and diff gearing. Towing package adds hitch and trailer wiring only. Max Tow Package adds hitch and wiring pluse 3.73 diffs if your trim level doesn't already have either 3.73 or 4.10 diffs.

By the way, if you have a soft top, U-Haul will not rent you a trailer no matter how small it is.
Again, this is all covered in the Owner's Manual.
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.......The tow rating is based on wheelbase.....
A correction to the correction, wheelbase has very little to do with towing weight. Hence the reason the 2016-2018 JK has the same tow rating as the JKU.
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A correction to the correction, wheelbase has very little to do with towing weight. Hence the reason the 2016-2018 JK has the same tow rating as the JKU.
What?! Wheelbase actually has quite a bit to do with towing weight. That is pretty much why a 2 door and 4 door can pull such different weights.

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That's incorrect for current Jeep specs, since 2016 2 door and 4 door can pull the same weight.

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Thank you all for your responses. So, it sounds like I have a 2,000 lb tow capacity. I'd like to increase that to 3,500. Should I regear, up to 3.73 axle ratio? Or buy another Jeep? The latter sounds a little more expensive. And does anybody have guess-timates on regearing costs? Thank you again.
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Thank you all for your responses. So, it sounds like I have a 2,000 lb tow capacity. I'd like to increase that to 3,500. Should I regear, up to 3.73 axle ratio? Or buy another Jeep? The latter sounds a little more expensive. And does anybody have guess-timates on regearing costs? Thank you again.
Tough question.

Legally, your limit is whatever your Jeep came with. There's no changing it.

However IMO (<you know, that free internet opinion) if you gear properly you can tow up to the 3500 limit. If doing gears, make your gear selection based on long term plans. If you'll be going up in tire size then gear for that tire size. Gear costs vary by area, I paid $1800 in OK with overhaul kits, seals, etc.

Make sure to enter your VIN on the link in post #13 to verify you have 3.21 gears

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$1250 to regear in my area, Phoenix AZ. Whether you go to 3.73 or 4.10 depends on various factors. I'm at 4.88 with 35" tires, and it tows much better. IMO any automatic 2012 and up Jeep on 32-ish or larger tires should be running 4.10 gears.
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Tough question.

Legally, your limit is whatever your Jeep came with. There's no changing it.

However IMO (<you know, that free internet opinion) if you gear properly you can tow up to the 3500 limit. If doing gears, make your gear selection based on long term plans. If you'll be going up in tire size then gear for that tire size. Gear costs vary by area, I paid $1800 in OK with overhaul kits, seals, etc.

Make sure to enter your VIN on the link in post #13 to verify you have 3.21 gears

Good luck!
Agree with this statement. But as someone who has pulled or carried very heavy loads in pickups for most of my life we have swapped springs, change rear ends and swapped gears, installed air bags to increase the safety and capabilities of our vehicles. Is this strictly legal? It is a gray area IMO.

With the JK's Max Tow capability comes down to gears, hitch is not the issue. But one thing I don't think any of us have looked at is the spring package that is installed. As people may or may not know there is a bunch of different springs installed in our vehicles. Things like hard top vs soft top, Sport vs Sahara vs Rubicon, etc. One thing I don't think we paid much attention to though is Max Tow. I suspect that the Max Tow package may have also installed larger springs.
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What?! Wheelbase actually has quite a bit to do with towing weight. That is pretty much why a 2 door and 4 door can pull such different weights.

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Again wheelbase has nothing to do with determining what the vehicle can tow safely. What wheelbase does for you though is is slow everything down incase you do have trailer sway, everything happens faster in a shorter wheelbase vehicle. But this is not a determining factor because recovery from an event is not part of the equation.

Properly loaded a trailer will never sway, not counting wind events, over driving the conditions or excess speed. These are thing you control and are you responsibility to take into consideration. An extreme example of this, hook up a small utility trailer behind a semi, load it improperly and head out on the highway. The trail will be doing the Lindy, taking out cars right and left and the semi will not of budge, won't even know what is going on unless you looked in the mirrors.
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Wheelbase definitely makes a huge difference on things like wind effect. A lot goes into factoring towing capacity, and wheelbase is one factor. The actual experience of towing is noticeably affected by wheelbase. I've seen this by towing the same trailer with a two door shortbed pickup and with a mega cab 8' bed that were otherwise the same.
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Wheelbase definitely makes a huge difference on things like wind effect. A lot goes into factoring towing capacity, and wheelbase is one factor. The actual experience of towing is noticeably affected by wheelbase. I've seen this by towing the same trailer with a two door shortbed pickup and with a mega cab 8' bed that were otherwise the same.
Again not founded in fact. Go to the Ram site and start doing some compares. The Regular Cab, equip with the diesel and 8 foot bed, max tow weight 19780. Can't get this with the short bed. Crew Cab max, same equip is 19200. With Short bed towing is increased to 19360. Mega Cab, only comes in a short bed otherwise everything else is the same, 15520. Wheelbases are as follows, Regular cab, 140", Crew Cab 169", Crew Cab, 6'4" bed and Mega Cab, 160 inches.

And if this does not convince you then just look at the 2016-2018 JK's with the exact same tow ratings as the JKU.


Understand that I am not doubting you on which felt more comfortable to tow with. But I would contend that it is not wheelbase that was the difference it was weight of the vehicle. The heavier the vehicle the more force it takes to move it. I know my JK pulls better today than it did when it was still stock.
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It is well known to be one of many factors. I don't know why you have a hard time getting that. There are other variables, as you pointed out. Sometimes ratings change without any visible vehicle change. The truck I had before the Jeep had a rating change one year without anything apparently changing.

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