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Old 10-06-2019, 03:37 PM
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Would 33" look to small with a 3 1/2" lift?

Thinking about removing the 35" BFG's that are on the 2008 Wrangler 2dr I just bought for my son. It currently has a Rubicon Express 3 1/2" lift on it. Would it look stupid with a a 3 1/2" lift and 33"s?

Anybody running 33" on a 3"-4" lift? Have pictures?

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This is 33's with stock height on a JK. I had 33's on my 87 YJ with a 4.5" lift that looked good. BUT that was a YJ. JK's have a higher fender than YJ's. I think a 2.5" lift would look good on a JK with 33's. IMHO!!
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the Jeeps a little sluggish with the 35's on it. Was hoping to go down a size. Mybe I'll go down to a smaller lift too.
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33's will fit at stock height. Check around the trade forums for a bit and you can probably find someone looking to get rid of factory springs/shocks/arms for cheap.
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33's will fit a stock JK but a 3.5" lift will increase the break-over angles (help prevent the dragging of exhaust pipe and skid plate). A 2.5" lift might look better though and accomplish the same results.

Wheeling a built Jeep teaches a youngster, nothing about wheeling. Driving a stock teaches driving and steering techniques that will last a lift time in picking a line. He shouldn't beat it to death with a small lift(2.5" & 33"s) an small tires.

BE FOREWARNED with 33" tires and 30-35 Dana axles, things can break!

Might be a good time for you both to do a rebuild on that RE lift kit too. I really enjoyed mine on the TJ for about ten years.

Check the angles on the SYE and rear pinion. Rebuild the (replace the rubber grommets) rear pivoting nylon bushings. It could be areal father - son learning/bonding experience.

BTW I had a 01 TJ with the 4.5" springs with the RE 3.5" lift & 33" tires.


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Yeah it would look pretty damn funny
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the Jeeps a little sluggish with the 35's on it. Was hoping to go down a size. Mybe I'll go down to a smaller lift too.
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Put the VIN in the page below.
https://fcacommunity.force.com/RAM/s/equipment-listing

So the JK has at least a 3.5in lift and 35in tire.

Does it have a combination suspension/body lift or just a suspension lift?

And if no body lift, is it all springs or spring/spacers?

Auto/manual?

Are you aware if it has been regeared? If it has not been regeared the link above will tell you the gearing. Baseline was 3:21 gear ratio.

If you have the 33s lying around and keeping the same rims, that is one thing but if you are going to have to purchase new set of tires, and dependent on what you and/or your son intends to do with the jeep (Just Empty Every Pocket )

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So why change the gears? Think about what happens when you change the tire size. A bigger tire will go farther down the road for each time it makes one complete revolution. So if you bump up the tire size without changing the axle gears, your driveshaft will be turning slower when you're driving down the highway. That means your engine will be turning slower. If your engine is turning too slowly, it won't make very good power and your performance (and even fuel economy) can suffer. So to compensate, you change the axle gears. Bigger tire means higher number for axle gears. By changing the axle gears to match the tire size change, you put the engine speed back close to where the factory put it and you get back to factory-like performance. (And yes, I'm glossing over a lot of details here.)
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32s and 3.5" rk lift.


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It's Your Jeep but I agree with everybody else.
Not to change the tread but I noticed you said it was a little sluggish with 35's. I have an 07 with 35's with a manual. There is no sluggish going on. How many miles on yours. It's suggested to change "ALL" 02 censors at around 80K. That's inexpensive and usually fairly easy to do too. New air breather? Lot of little things that can cause it to run.
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the Jeeps a little sluggish with the 35's on it. Was hoping to go down a size. Mybe I'll go down to a smaller lift too.

If you're talking sluggish with 35's then I would bet you have 3.21 gears?



It would probably be cheaper to keep the existing lift and tires, and just regear. You would end up with a better jeep at a slightly cheaper price tag.
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Our Jeep is at 2008 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 door and automatic transmission, 3 1/2" Rubicon Express spring lift and 315/70R17 BFG A/T's
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Our Jeep is at 2008 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 door and automatic transmission, 3 1/2" Rubicon Express spring lift and 315/70R17 BFG A/T's

Yeah... so you have the older 3.8 motor and probably 3.21 to 4.10 gears, and that would be why it feels sluggish with 35's


Again, I would go to the heart of the problem and re gear. You can do that for most likely less than the price of altering the lift/tires. Regear to say... 4.56 or 4.88 and there will be a significant and noticeable difference in handling characteristics.
It's an option to think about anyway.
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Our Jeep is at 2008 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2 door and automatic transmission, 3 1/2" Rubicon Express spring lift and 315/70R17 BFG A/T's
Yep, the overall best result is going to be with 4.88 or 5.13 gears. My re-gear was $1100. But they can run from about $1000 to $1800 depending on where you are and whether or not the shop does a lot of them...
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If you're going to drop coin to replace the tires and remove the lift just regear. Probably be a wash and you can keep the 35s and the lift. If the tires are gone and you need to replace them then have at it but it's an option you want to consider. I would recommend 4.56 - 4.88 with a 315 tire and auto if you do any highway.
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I have a 3.5” lift on mine with 33’s and I think it’s perfect. Manual with 3:21 gears.
The height is just enough to look and ride well, but not to hard to get in and out of. My daughter took it to her senior prom in a dress.
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If you're going to drop coin to replace the tires and remove the lift just regear. Probably be a wash and you can keep the 35s and the lift. If the tires are gone and you need to replace them then have at it but it's an option you want to consider. I would recommend 4.56 - 4.88 with a 315 tire and auto if you do any highway.
With the 3.8, 4.56 is a little short on performance....
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Do you know if it was flashed for the larger than stock tire size? Did it come with a programmer?
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For reference, I ran stock size tires on my rubicon (~32) with a 2.5" lift for a time. The ratio is similar to what you are asking about.

Here is a pic of how it looked...

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I have a 2" lift and 33" tires and I like the combination.

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What about 34" (285/75) tires on a 3" lift?
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What about 34" (285/75) tires on a 3" lift?
Turns out those almost same rolling diameter as most 35” tires. If lighter, could help a tad.
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I may have these pics wrong- its been a long time. I had 33s on a 3". I do believe the tires were more like a 34". I replaced the springs and went taller and hated it. Not much difference but the taller the lift, the bigger the fender gap, the smaller the tires will look. (Some people LIKE that look- hey everyone has their preferences.)
I ran 33s on 3.21s for probably 6 months before I said screw it and went to 35s and 4.56s.
As others have mentioned a re-gear isn't a bad option. 33s are less wear and tear overall. But a re-gear WILL make you love that Jeep a heck of a lot more.
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What about 34" (285/75) tires on a 3" lift?
See my pic above.
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Yep, the overall best result is going to be with 4.88 or 5.13 gears. My re-gear was $1100. But they can run from about $1000 to $1800 depending on where you are and whether or not the shop does a lot of them...

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