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Old 05-11-2010, 02:32 AM
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Angry Chirping sound when in motion

Alright, well i have an 04 Wrangler X, and for about five months I have been hearing a chirping sound coming from what it sounds to be the engine compartment. It only happens when the car is in motion so I can get under the hood to look for it. At about thirty to forty miles an hour it starts. It not a constant noise, but it variates. Sometimes it is every two seconds, or sometimes it can be constant. It also likes to happen when its colder outside or when the engine is cold, but does happen when its warm. The best way to describe it is it sounds like a very high pitched bird noise, or like a beater car that isnt taken care of that squeals. I have invested a lot of money in this car so its frustrating for it to sound like I dont care about it. I took it to the dealer, spent almost $200 for them not to fix it. It is not the fuel pump though. Any ideas because I really, really want it fixed! Thank you!!

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Fan belt maybe...but with you saying vibration....Front driveshaft U-joint.

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Your U-joints in your front drive shaft probably need replaced. There are 3 of them total. If you have the time, remove the front drive shaft and see if the chirps and vibes go away in order to be sure. If you have a manual trans, drive down the road, kill the engine, and coast. If the noise is still present, it's not your motor or fan belt, but probably your joints.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:48 PM
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Its not the fan belt, I checked that out. There is no vibration at all. I did have the death wobble last summer, but I took care of that. I think I said that it variates, not vibrates but I thought it said vibrates at first glance too, for how log the sound lasts in the bursts of noise. I also have an automatic transmission as well.
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Front Driveshaft U-joints.... either pull the driveshaft off and drive around to see if it still makes noise otherwise another quick try would be to spray WD-40 on the CV of the driveshaft, take for quick spin to see if eliminates the noise or if still there.

More then likely you need to replace you U-joints in the CV of the front driveshaft... it's usually referenced as "Angry Sparrows"

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You forgot to feed the sparrows didn't you?
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Crap mrcarcrazy beat me to it!!!
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Sooooo what did the dealer do then for $200 other then screw you.
You got screwed and didn't even get to enjoy it... LOL.

Did you get an invoice sheet from them stating what was done, or why it was needed????
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When it's chirping grab onto the 4 wheel drive lever...mine on my 97 TJ chirped all the time and drove me nuts.

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I'm with the guys suggesting it's probably a bad front driveshaft u-joint. A very good replacement u-joint is a Spicer 5-785x which is a stronger/more durable replacement for what the factory installed.
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Well I have taken it to the dealer twice already and they promised me both times it was fixed and both times after like five minutes the noise started happening again. After $200, you might imagine I was not happy at all. I will try all these suggestions when I get home from Auburn today and tell you guys if it worked! Thanks for the input!!
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Do a search for sparrows. I had this a couple months ago. U-Joint for sure.
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Sooo, beside the dealer charging you labor, on the invoice, what does it actually state as in what work was done.

There should be a line item and service charge listed for said work that was done.

Sounds like maybe time to find a better dealer to work with. The local dealer here works with me pretty good on things. If it's something I can't figure out and just drop-off for them to look at and me to fix, he'll charge me either $30-$40.
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i had the same problem, mine was the front hood latch,lubed and its fine now.
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I agree with the Front DriveShaft being the most likely culprit . . . yank it out and see if the noise is gone. I thought the chirping noise is usually more of a Center Ball issue and less to do with the U-Joints, but I could have that wrong.
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I do not have the invoice with me, but once I get it, and replacing the U Joints I will relay all this information to you guys
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I do not have the invoice with me, but once I get it, and replacing the U Joints I will relay all this information to you guys
Don't just replace them yet...Even though they are most likely the issue. Pull the front d-shaft off and go for a drive....If the noise is completely gone..you know it's the U-joints. I also recommend the Spicer-785x ujoints. Great replacement!

If the noise is still there with the front shaft removed....Well bolt the shaft back in and start looking at other issues.
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Okay so I am pretty set that it is my U joints that are making the problem. How much should the Spicer 5-785x cost roughly? And is it common for my U joints to go bad this early? I thought this only happens to older cars...
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Spicer's 5-760x cost me something like $17-18 or the last time I bought any. It is not common for u-joints to go bad in cars but if you are hard on your Jeep when offroading or put a lot of stress on the axle shafts in 4Lo, anything can happen.
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Sooo, beside the dealer charging you labor, on the invoice, what does it actually state as in what work was done.

There should be a line item and service charge listed for said work that was done.

Sounds like maybe time to find a better dealer to work with. The local dealer here works with me pretty good on things. If it's something I can't figure out and just drop-off for them to look at and me to fix, he'll charge me either $30-$40.
Lucky you got a good dealer. You're right! work done should be stated and not just the $$$$
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Well it took longer than I said it would but I finally got under the Jeep and checked the U-Joints out and they are fine. The noise is still happening though. I talked to my dad and he said that it could be pre-detonation where the valves are not closing soon enough but I personally do not think that is what it is. Any suggestions of what else you guys could think it would be??
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this was happening to me forever to i pulled the front driveline out and it stoped so i knew it was that, i replaced all the Ujoints and it still made the noises so i finally replaced the CV in it and all the Ujoints before that so it was all rebuilt and i havn't had any problems with it since then, so it had to have been the CV in it, it costs like $60 i think.. but yeah when i did that it was all better, so maybe try that next? hope it all works out for ya.
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How did you know it was the CV?
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In case you missed it Remove the front drive shaft and see if the noise continues!! Then I'm sure everyone will be happy to help you narrow the problem down from there. If you don't take their advice but keep asking what it could be they are just going to ignore you and your thread because you don't listen.
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I said earlier that I did that... I also inspected the ball bearings and they seemed to be fine. So yes I have taken in all of their advice and gone out and done it. The reason why I asked is because it would not affect the CV if the driveshaft was pulled out.
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I said earlier that I did that... I also inspected the ball bearings and they seemed to be fine. So yes I have taken in all of their advice and gone out and done it. The reason why I asked is because it would not affect the CV if the driveshaft was pulled out.
Sorry, you said you "checked' the u-joints so i assumed you only looked at them, my bad.
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Its all good. So again, Montgomery7361, how did you know that it was your CV that was causing the problem?
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because i replaced everything else in the driveline already so it had to be that there wasn't anything else to rebuild on there. thats all that was left.
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sorry if i confused you with anything i looked it up and i guess its called a CV yoke. here is a link with a picture its inside the part of the front drive line that rotates around in a circle. go to this link to see the picture, hope it helps.

Double Cardan CV centering yoke fits Jeep 1310 series CV driveshaft Spicer style constant velocity driveshaft centering yoke amd replacement spring
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you might try, as suggested, when you are driving and the noise starts to drop it into nuetral and kill the engine for a second to see if it quits. If it isn't in the drive line it may be possible that a bearing in either the belt tensioner or belt idler may be going bad. Just another thought...

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