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Old 02-27-2016, 08:20 PM
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Core 4x4 control arms?

Just starting to look for control arms. My new to me 2001 4 inch lift TJ has a little looseness in the back- kind of a little side shift and pulls to the left under moderate braking. This is my daily and am looking for a fix.
It has lower skyjacker arms on it. I do not want to put any money into them at all!!!!

Rough Country adjustable arms are $ 700. not very popular here....

I saw the new Core 4x4 control arms- I'm interested in the tier 2, JJ and rubber bushings. They are about $ 900. with paint. Does anyone have any experience with them? Not much information to be found.

The Metal cloak set priced is priced at $ 959. Many very good reviews. With the price within a $100. Should I just get these?
Please offer your opinions..... thanks

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Only $59 more, I'd go with the popular, and tested, metalcloak.

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Metalcloak or savvy-currie would be my choice. My curries are holding up great.
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Call Metalcoak and see if they have any deals on their arms. The top three arms are Metalcloak, Currie/Savvy and Rock Crawler to most in the Jeep community.

I have Metalcloaks...
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Allen's off road carries both the core and currie. Not sure about MC. He has always given members here great service and prices.
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Allen's off road carries both the core and currie. Not sure about MC. He has always given members here great service and prices.
Only Metalcloak carries Metalcloak products.

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Are Metalcloak better than Rokmen?
You'll find varying opinions on this since Rokmen uses a JJ and MC uses a DF joint.

I can tell you personally that while Rokmen's products are very well engineered and stout, their customer service sucks...at best.

I can also tell you that Metalcloak has the best offroad customer service I've ever seen.

Do your research on the two styles of joints and then go with the one that fits your needs best.
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Core4X4 Tier Two arms use a Currie Flex joint and their Tier Three uses a Currie JJ. Not to mention Spence stands behind his product with a "You manage to break it, We replace it! Guaranteed!" warranty. I can personally vouch for their response to customers that may have an issue. Even if they have to send out another JJ or bolt kit overnight.

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Core4X4 Tier Two arms use a Currie Flex joint and their Tier Three uses a Currie JJ. Not to mention Spence stands behind his product with a "You manage to break it, We replace it! Guaranteed!" warranty. I can personally vouch for their response to customers that may have an issue. Even if they have to send out another JJ or bolt kit overnight.

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Hey Allen,
according to the core website, both tier 2 and 3 both feature feature Johnny Joints on the adjustable end on main page. Only difference I see is that tier 3 comes standard with a poly bushing where tier 2 is standard rubber with upgradable to poly bushings on the non adjustable end. other difference is that tier 3 is thicker wall tubing.

the main page shows that both tier 2 and 3 have JJ's. When you click on tier 2 it indicated Currie flex joints. so the two pages do contradict each other.

So what is a Currie flex joint? I am aware of the JJ and how it is constructed but never heard of a Currie flex joint.
Is it able to be rebuilt/serviced?
I don't see parts for them.
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Do you have a link to a Currie page with a flex Joint?


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any input from a member who has installed the Core arms ? what level ?
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any input from a member who has installed the Core arms ? what level ?
Ordered Tier 3 obviously in custom color of Blue. The build is excellent and I may wear out a JJ but will never break or bend one of these arms. I get a crap ton of flex out of these with my Rock Krawler springs and sway bar disconnected. Will need limit straps to not rip my 4in extended stainless brake lines in half.
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I may wear out a JJ but will never break or bend one of these arms.
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Haha.. ya right. These may rip the mounts off my axle housing but I think the arms are safe.
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Hey Allen,
according to the core website, both tier 2 and 3 both feature feature Johnny Joints on the adjustable end on main page. Only difference I see is that tier 3 comes standard with a poly bushing where tier 2 is standard rubber with upgradable to poly bushings on the non adjustable end. other difference is that tier 3 is thicker wall tubing.

the main page shows that both tier 2 and 3 have JJ's. When you click on tier 2 it indicated Currie flex joints. so the two pages do contradict each other.

So what is a Currie flex joint? I am aware of the JJ and how it is constructed but never heard of a Currie flex joint.
Is it able to be rebuilt/serviced?
I don't see parts for them.
Currie Enterprises. 3087
Do you have a link to a Currie page with a flex Joint?


Thanks much, Alan
The difference between the two is this:

the tier two use a Johnny Joint that is weld on for custom applcations (steel maachined housing). Still rebuildable and an authentic product.
The tier three uses a forged Johnny Joint already threaded shaft.

See all the Currie JJ here.

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Ordered Tier 3 obviously in custom color of Blue. The build is excellent and I may wear out a JJ but will never break or bend one of these arms. I get a crap ton of flex out of these with my Rock Krawler springs and sway bar disconnected. Will need limit straps to not rip my 4in extended stainless brake lines in half.
Happy to hear you like them. Looks good in that color with your paint.

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Just starting to look for control arms. My new to me 2001 4 inch lift TJ has a little looseness in the back- kind of a little side shift and pulls to the left under moderate braking. This is my daily and am looking for a fix.
It has lower skyjacker arms on it. I do not want to put any money into them at all!!!!

Rough Country adjustable arms are $ 700. not very popular here....

I saw the new Core 4x4 control arms- I'm interested in the tier 2, JJ and rubber bushings. They are about $ 900. with paint. Does anyone have any experience with them? Not much information to be found.

The Metal cloak set priced is priced at $ 959. Many very good reviews. With the price within a $100. Should I just get these?
Please offer your opinions..... thanks
I would like to revamp this thread since things have changed a little. I am looking to buy new adjustable control arms. The Core 4x4 tier 2 control arms are 779.00 with their stock colors. Its does cost more for custom paint and new hardware. The Meatalcloak's are 999.00. That more of a difference than 100 buck,s not considering the upgrades and options. I think the tier 2 is the best option if your going to go with the Core 4x4. I know the Meatalcloak's do have joints you can rebuild on both ends and the Core only has them on one end. Doesn't look like that Meatalcloaks are double adjustable nor are the Core!!!! I think I am going to go with the Core, although I'm not here to attest to which one is better. For people looking to get new arms the info is a little skewed here in 2017. Hope this helps!!!
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Metalcloak does offer double adjustable arms. $1100 for all 8. Aluminum even.

Why worry about custom paint with core? They are just going to get beat up and scratched. I guess if you building a show rig...
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Metalcloak does offer double adjustable arms. $1100 for all 8. Aluminum even.

Why worry about custom paint with core? They are just going to get beat up and scratched. I guess if you building a show rig...
I know they offer those type of control arms. I guess my point was that the original post was making it seem they were only 100 dollars difference between the two. Since this was the first thing that popped up for me when I googled buying new control arms for my model Jeep, I though that I would let everyone know that its not entirely true. I know its hard enough to grasp all the information that's out there, I just thought I would make it more general. You can get a set of Core 4x4 tier two control arms for less than 800.00. Not including custom paint and new hardware!! Shipping is free if you buy from Allen Off Road. The tier two has the jonny joint on one side and a rubber bushing on the other. Only adjustable on one side of the arm. The Meatalcloak is 999.00. The last item I bought from Metalcloak, the shipping was 28.00. The Metalcloak do have their duraflex joints on both ends but still only adjustable on one end. Like before, I'm not one to speak on which one is better but the information was a little inaccurate and since its the one of the first results on google, I though I would revisit it. At a base price the Core 4x4 is more than 100 dollars cheaper than the Meatalcloak.
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I just order a complete set of rear control arms. Or, I thought I did. Cannot find any record of it happening, on their site or in an email confirmation. I know i input my credit card info and shipping address. Waiting on a call back.
Sucky thing is their prices increased sincex so if it got lost its gonna cost me. Literally. Anyone else have any issues with the website?
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Little update here. The Tier 3 arms have been GREAT. Would buy again or possibly even the new Tier 4 arms (JJ at both ends). They have been solid and after 25,000 mi have zero play in them. The powdercoat that has survived the trail has held up perfectly. Highly recommend their product!
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Little update here. The Tier 3 arms have been GREAT. Would buy again or possibly even the new Tier 4 arms (JJ at both ends). They have been solid and after 25,000 mi have zero play in them. The powdercoat that has survived the trail has held up perfectly. Highly recommend their product!
Awesome! They are a great product. I have never understood why I have not been slammed with orders for them.

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would the Core control arms work if i wanted to do a 4 and 3 link setup on my TJ. I am looking at the tier 2 arms right now and looking for any suggestions. They look to be a great product. Thanks
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No. The lengths are entirely different than short arms.

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As jjvw said, they will not work. 3 and 4 link systems are long arms. Core has plans to get a long arm system in the pipeline, however, with the release of the JL, new production for that has taken priority.

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.... Core has plans to get a long arm system in the pipeline, however, with the release of the JL, new production for that has taken priority.

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Interesting. Are they going after the bolt on market or something better?

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Interesting. Are they going after the bolt on market or something better?

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Spence was intending on bolt on. I have not asked him in a couple of weeks what their eta is on this. A lot of company changes going on. New products for the JL, recently new photo booth, expansion due to increased demand. All kinds of stuff.

I will get in touch with him tomorrow and ask.

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Spoke with Spence. Looking at winter before they approach the TJ LA stuff again. They have been getting slammed with Dodge product and track racing guys. Btw, when they do go after it again, it will be strictly bolt on.

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Unless they have some kind of clever innovation that allows for good suspension geometry on a bolt on kit, then this sounds like a simple money grab.

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Spence and his crew are anything but a money grab. If they cannot provide a sound product that will perform and give additional benefit to your offroad functionality, it doesn't get made.
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