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Old 03-16-2015, 12:22 PM
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Crown HD steering kit

Put the kit on my 2004 LJ yesterday. First of all two of the 8.8 bolts that hold the adjustment collars on the drag link and tie rod stripped while trying to torque to 36 ft lbs. What the heck? Headed out to get replacements in a minute, but even more concerning is that the ends of the drag link and tie Rod that connect to the axle seem to have seated almost all the way in and I am wondering if the taper in the studs is wrong. I had to pull off the drivers side tie Rod end right after I seated it (55ftlbs.) to drill for a Metacloak track bar and had to cut the energy suspension bushing I had just out on it to get the tie Rod puller on because the knuckles were so close together. Then when I put a couple squirts of grease in the zerk fitting the top of the new bushing pushed out to one side since they are so close. Also the cotter pin is just above the top of the castellated nut on that side too. Anybody else had these issues? I'm wondering if the taper is wrong, please let me know if you all think this is okay! Everything's torqued down to spec and are seated, just maybe too far in?

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make sure you paint it real good BEFORE final install. Crown ZJ = rust bucket!

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Where did you get the 36 ft-lb. torque setting? I don't know the Crown supplied bolt size to know the recommended ft-lbs. setting to use but those bolts aren't all that big and 36 ft-lbs. just seems excessive/unnecessary based on my experience with other TJ tie rod and drag link bolts.
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I got it off a write up on jeepforum. Okay I'll go with the standard TJ specs on that which is 20 ft lbs I think. Don't think there's any concern over the tapered heads? They are all torqued to the ZJ specs (since this is technically a ZJ linkage right?) of 55 ft lbs except where the drag link and tie rod connect which is torqued to 65 ft lbs.
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It might be a ZJ linkage, but you're installing it on a TJ steering system. Use the torque settings for the TJ and you'll be fine. This is what I did and I'm having no issues.
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Well now I've torqued the studs into the axle to 55 ft lbs. Will that be a problem?
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What studs?
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The tapered studs that go into the axle on one of tie rod and one end of linkage.
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The studs that hold the tie rod ends? If so, that sounds fine.
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The ball joints I believe they are. Thanks for you help by the way I'm kind of worried there isn't enough room for them to move around they are so close to the axle knuckle they go into.
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Bump, just confirming that 55 ft lbs of torque on the steering linkage is okay as illustrated above. Anybody have this much torque on theirs with the Crown HD steering and have any problems? Thanks!
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55 lbs is whats recommended and what I used on the same setup with no issues.
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BTW, paint that or cover it with grease. It wont stay that pretty very long...
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Awesome thanks for the confirmation. The tie Rod end and the adjustment collars rust or just the TRE?
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The adjustment collars and the tie rod ends rust REALLY bad. I've had mine on for about 2 weeks and they're completely covered in rust. And my steering still pops... Fml
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Hey Kentucky! I'm originally from Winchester. Okay well I guess I'll hit them with a little spray paint. Of course I am in SoCal and it might not rain for another 8 months.
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Any bare steel rusts, even in socal.
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I was kidding. I do have a little rust under my jeep, exhaust for one, so I know things will rust here. I am gonna try boeshield t-9 on it and see how it does.
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Boeshield T9 is great/superb stuff, it's one of the best spray-on corrosion inhibitors. But paint is fine for the areas we're talking about.
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Crown HD Steering Kit

I'm also installing this kit. It's all in except I'm getting different torque values from here and Jeep Forum. My manual says the TRE get torqued to 35ftlbs at steering knuckles, 35 and 55 ftlbs at drag link???? and this is whats confusing me is drag link at pittman arm....

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(3) Tighten the nut at the steering knuckle to 47
N-m (35 ft. lbs .). Tighten the pitman nut to 81 N-m
(60 ft. lbs .) and tie rod ball stud nut to 47 N-m (35 ft.
lbs .). Install new cotter pins and bend end 60°.

Question.....what nut gets 60ftlbs...I'm Lost!!

sorry if this is confusing.
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Here you go, right out of the FSM.
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Jerry thanks for the quick replay. This is the instructions from my FSM.

TIE ROD

REMOVAL

(1) Remove the cotter pins and nuts at the steering
knuckle and drag link (Fig. 1).
(2) Remove the ball studs with puller tool.
(3) If necessary, loosen the end clamp bolts and
remove the tie rod ends from the tube.

INSTALLATION

(1) If necessary, install the tie rod ends in the
tube. Position the tie rod clamp (Fig. 3) and tighten
to 27 N-m (20 ft. lbs .).
(2) Install the tie rod on the drag link and steering
knuckle.
(3) Tighten the ball stud nut on the steering
knuckle to 47 N-m (35 ft. lbs .). Tighten the ball stud
nut to drag link to 47 N-m (35 ft. lbs .) torque. Install
new cotter pins .

DRAG LINK


REMOVAL

(1) Remove the cotter pins and nuts at the steering
knuckle and drag link (Fig. 1).
(2) Remove the steering dampener ball stud from
the drag link with a puller tool.
(3) Remove the drag link from the steering
knuckle with a puller tool. Remove the same for tie
rod and pitman arm.
(4) If necessary, loosen the end clamp bolts and
remove the tie rod end from the link.

INSTALLATION

(1) Install the drag link adjustment sleeve and tie
rod end. Position clamp bolts (Fig. 3).
(2) Position the drag link at the steering linkage.
Install the drag link to the steering knuckle nut. Do
the same for the tie rod and pitman arm.
(3) Tighten the nut at the steering knuckle to 47
N-m (35 ft. lbs .). Tighten the pitman nut to 81 N-m
(60 ft. lbs .) and tie rod ball stud nut to 47 N-m (35 ft.
lbs .). Install new cotter pins and bend end 60°.
(4) Install the steering dampener onto the drag
link and tighten the nut to 74 N-m (55 ft. lbs .).
Install a new cotter pin and bend end 60°.


No where on the chart do i see a torque value for 35 ftlbs.


Thanks again Jerry
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That chart values do not match instructions. That is confusing to me. Maybe I just need someone to un-confuse me. Thank You again.
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What year FSM did those instructions come out of?
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1997 fsm.
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I see the conflict in the '97 FSM that is confusing. Based on how many times I've gone with that job and the stud sizes, go with the chart's values.
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Will do Jerry. I thank you. In my post #22 do you know what there talking about torquing the pitman nut to 60ftlbs or just ignore this. never removed a nut, just wondering what it was.. Thanks Again
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As the chart indicates, the big pitman arm nut gets tightened to 185 ft-lbs.

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