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Old 11-15-2015, 11:47 PM
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differential - spider gears & stuff

So, a couple questions for the people that know.

D35 got a little blowed up the other day. Pulled the cover and the spider gears were, well, not really gears any more. Closer inspection showed 2 small cracks in the carrier. Strangely enough, everything else looked ok.

2004 Wrangler X D35 3.07 gears

1st question(s).
This is my daily driver. When everything failed, I followed some advice and pulled the rear drive shaft, threw it in 4wd and got to where I was going.

While I wait for the parts, is it ok that I drive like this? Seems to me I read about people driving like this for quite some time...

Do I need to keep it below a general speed or what?

I'm not real sure what to order for the repairs. I'm assuming I need to, at a minimum, replace the spider gears and carrier. Is this the "loaded carrier" I see for sale?

The ring gears look fine, but should I go ahead and replace all of it?

I know it's a D35, are there any upgrade type of things I can (or should) do since I'm replacing this stuff?

Not real familiar with these parts so I'm looking for some advice on how to move forward...

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You do realize everything in there is still spinning right? Don't drive it, all it takes is part of those spider gears to wedge themselves in the ring/pinion, and its all over. And if the carrier breaks...I'm not even sure what would happen honestly.

What you've read probably refers to people driving without the rear driveshaft while waiting to fix said driveshaft.

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I do realize everything is still spinning. We've removed the spider gears...

Drive shaft is still off.
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I do realize everything is still spinning. We've removed the spider gears...

Drive shaft is still off.
Question: If both the driveshaft and spider gears are removed, wouldn't the carrier remain relatively stationary, except for some passive motion from bearings? If so, I'd drive it, but get a new carrier in soon.
I'll let those more informed weigh in.
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If the spiders are removed there is nothing holding your axals in!
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If the spiders are removed there is nothing holding your axals in!
Wow. Yeah your c clip axles need those spiders to keep them from wandering in or out
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Yikes...35 not 44
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And, just to be clear, only the ground up spider gears are removed, the side gears are still on...unmoving that makes a difference in terms of the axles staying on
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As long as the center pin is put back in, and there isn't enough lateral moment in spiders to let the C clips come out.

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