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Old 03-09-2011, 06:32 PM
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Grease Zirks

So I'm wanting to grease my Jeep ('98 Wrangler) up to make sure things keep working smoothly. Problem is I don't know where all the grease zirks are. I hear there's 7 of them, I can only find like 4. Anyone know where all these little guys are hiding? Also, is there any special kind of grease I should use?

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All seven zerks are on the front axle ball joints and steering system. Keep looking for them, they are all right there.

Not all greases are compatible with each other, so I would get the red grease that indicates it is for Chrysler vehicles on the tube. Most auto part stores have their grease cartridge tubes segregated by car manufacturer brand.

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When you grease them, what is the rule of thumb for the amount you put in? Can you burst them by putting too much in or do they have an overflow deal? How often should I grease them?

Sorry for all the questions but all my past cars have had completely sealed units. Volvos...

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Anybody have a pic of what I should look for? I would grease mine, if I knew what the heck I was supposed to grease..... Is this something that the oil change place should be doing when they "lube" my Jeep?
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I can post a picture tomorrow if you need

7 zirks
2 upper ball joints
2 tie rod ends
Track bar frame mount
Pitman arm drag link connection
Middle of tie rod/ drag link bar

May not have right names on the tie rod/draglink
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Yeah, I have no clue what a zirk fitting even looks like.... I know where the tie rod ends are, and that's about it...
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For lack of a better term they look like a nipple.
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Here's a good writeup with pics:
Jeep.US41.org/lube
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My Hanes manual says to use NLGI LB chassis grease. I have some that clearly says NLGI on it. Should that work?
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Awesome! Thanks Pokey....
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Question The web site is no longer up

Hi I was wanting to lube my chassis as well, I know this thread is old but the website is no longer up. Anyone have a walk through of everything that needs to be greased, and what kind of grease to use?

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The only zerk fittings installed by the factory are all on the front-end and there is a total of 7 of them. The 7 zerks are on the steering and ball joints, it may take bit of looking to finally discover them all. Since not all greases are compatible, I would look for tubes of grease that indicate they are for Chrysler vehicles, such greases are normally red in color.
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Upper ball joints, 2
Outer tie rod ends, 2
each end of the drag link, 2
frame end of track bar, 1
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I recently started using "Green Grease". Any decent chassis lube from the parts store will work.
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Any decent chassis lube from the parts store will work.
Not really. As mentioned above, not all greases are compatible with each other.
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Not really. As mentioned above, not all greases are compatible with each other.
So what happens when you add a non-compatible grease to a spherical joint?
I've been greasing vehicles for 25 years, and you never know what the last person used for grease. Never seen an issue.
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So what happens when you add a non-compatible grease to a spherical joint?
I've been greasing vehicles for 25 years, and you never know what the last person used for grease. Never seen an issue.
That you're not aware that not all greases are compatible with each other doesn't make it so.

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http://www.mobilindustrial.com/IND/E...patibility.pdf
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How To Choose The Correct Grease - Popular Mechanics
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I'm just saying...The vast majority of people take their vehicles in for service, and not always to the same shop.
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OK Jerry, so what you're saying is, unless a person know what kind of grease has been used in the past, the right thing to do is to buy some Chrysler approved grease (even though Chrysler doesn't make steering components) and flush any and all of the unknown grease out with it, and never let anyone grease else grease it unless they guarantee you that they use the exact same grease.
I understand where you're coming from, but it's just not always feasable for everyone to always have the same exact grease used on their vehicle. If that were the case, no repair/ maintenance facility could ever safely grease their customers vehicles.
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I'm not going to get into a nitpicking discussion but yes I was basically saying to use a grease that says for Chrysler vehicles since that is what our Jeeps came with from the factory. Unless all the old grease is completely flushed out, it is simply not safe to just switch grease types willy-nilly.

What I had a problem with was when you said the below which simply isn't true.

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It's not really knit-picking. How can ANY vehicle maintenance facility safely lubricate chassis components if there's a huge problem with mixing grease? I think it's a viable question. If you're answer is "they can't", then the vast majority of automobile owners around the world are taking a huge risk when they take their vehicle in for service.
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Sounds like a problem you need to sort out for yourself. I only pointed out to you that not all greases are compatible or suitable for our Jeeps as you claimed. You're not alone in not having known that.
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No shop is going to have more then one type of grease in the grease gun. I know some greases aren't compatible but if you've ever had your car serviced anywhere the grease has allready been mixed. I personally wouldn't worry about incompatibility in a steering type joint. Now a wheel bearing that's where I get worried. If i'm packing bearings they get completely cleaned before I repack. U-joints now.. that could be an iffy situation.
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I haven't seen it as a problem yet.
For the vehicle owner that performs their own maintenance, following your advice would definitely be a safe, reliable thing to do. In this exact scenario, my argument simply doesn't hold any value.
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I know some greases aren't compatible but if you've ever had your car serviced anywhere the grease has allready been mixed. I personally wouldn't worry about incompatibility in a steering type joint. Now a wheel bearing that's where I get worried. If i'm packing bearings they get completely cleaned before I repack.
That's exactly where I'm at with this.
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No shop is going to have more then one type of grease in the grease gun.
I only have one grease at my shop, but in my garage at home, for my vehicles, I actually have 3 grease guns, with 3 different types of grease.
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Patrick we are here to help and not pick any fights. Incompatible greases should not be mixed. We are not here to debate that shops do or do not follow those procedures. You will need to make a decison on your own what to do. Do not kill the messenger because others do not follow best practices.
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Patrick we are here to help and not pick any fights. Incompatible greases should not be mixed. We are not here to debate that shops do or do not follow those procedures. You will need to make a decison on your own what to do. Do not kill the messenger because others do not follow best practices.
Except that by not knowing if the previous owner has used mopar grease or not, you may in fact be causing the incompatibility just by using it. I have new ball joints in my jeep, they have napa grease in them. If I sell my jeep the new owner decides to use mopar grease.. Now what? I think what Patrick and I are both saying is its not going to be a big deal in this application. If it were there'd be issues all over and my 2003 jeep with 155k miles wouldn't have any original steering joints left. Having some grease, any grease, is better then going dry.

So the debate isn't whether its correct, but whether its acceptable practice.

And i'm done, cause debating with a mod isn't a wise course.
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I cannot believe this is even causing debate from a few people. I ABSOLUTELY don't understand it.

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