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Old 01-18-2014, 11:11 PM
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Helpp!! Gear shifter trouble after lift

So I just put a body lift on my jeep and now my gear shifter is messed. Does anybody know what it could be and how to fix it?! It's a daily driver and I'm going to be SOL if I can't drive it :'(

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Rubber boots are all that are in the way on a manual. Never heard of it causing a prob. The case linkage is hooked to the body however and that could get jacked up easy. The linkage for that has a bolt that tightens against a rod so you can adjust it under the skid plate. If your having 1st to 2nd problems I have no clue.


Edit not just 1st-2nd 1-5th I have no clue. Trying to be very safe not to misled people by assuming what they know.

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Try pulling your shift boot bezel and see if shifting gets better. Your probably hitting the edge of the bezel making it hard to shift. I adjusted the placement of my center console and switched over to a cheap leather shift boot to resolve my 1-2 gear shifting problems. I moved my console back because when you do a BL usually it will cause interference issues with the shifter and console. It would also help if your a bit more specific on your problem.
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:30 PM
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Rubber boots are all that are in the way on a manual. Never heard of it causing a prob. The case linkage is hooked to the body however and that could get jacked up easy. The linkage for that has a bolt that tightens against a rod so you can adjust it under the skid plate. If your having 1st to 2nd problems I have no clue. Edit not just 1st-2nd 1-5th I have no clue. Trying to be very safe not to misled people by assuming what they know.
well it's not really causing a problem just that it won't stay in 1st - 6th I think. It goes into reverse and stays, just when you put it in the other gears it pops out
If it's the rubber boot what do I need to do
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Try pulling your shift boot bezel and see if shifting gets better. Your probably hitting the edge of the bezel making it hard to shift. I adjusted the placement of my center console and switched over to a cheap leather shift boot to resolve my 1-2 gear shifting problems. I moved my console back because when you do a BL usually it will cause interference issues with the shifter and console. It would also help if your a bit more specific on your problem.
how do you pull the boot bezel off? It's not really causing a problem just won't stay in the bottom gears. I have a 2006 tj and I'm not sure if they were made with a console. All I have is cup holders
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Different tranny than my 2000 5 speed. Still from what I know that bad boy is not mounted right. Lot of work to get to there. and more importantly no adjustments. It's there or not. I'm puzzled how it can be messed up. I hope someone else knows Thing I don't get is how it partially works. Your tranny may be way different than mine. Im hoping someone enlightens us both.
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Bezel rubber flexing decoration. He could be spot on. In Alaska it freezes and keeps you out of gear.
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Different tranny than my 2000 5 speed. Still from what I know that bad boy is not mounted right. Lot of work to get to there. and more importantly no adjustments. It's there or not. I'm puzzled how it can be messed up. I hope someone else knows Thing I don't get is how it partially works. Your tranny may be way different than mine. Im hoping someone enlightens us both.
it runs fine, test drove it, I just have to hold it in 2nd 4th and 6th
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Try pulling boot like guy I would love to name but can't see from here said.

Are all those gears on the same side?
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Try pulling boot like guy I would love to name but can't see from here said. Are all those gears on the same side?
I'm not too sure how to do that, and yes it's the bottom gears
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I'm not too sure how to do that, and yes it's the bottom gears
On mine you would gently bend and maneuver the rubber boot up from the console. It surrounds a brittle plastic ring that snaps in and may be taking up the space you need for those gears
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On mine you would gently bend and maneuver the rubber boot up from the console. It surrounds a brittle plastic ring that snaps in and may be taking up the space you need for those gears
i got the boot off and I'm pretty sure it will stay in gear I will have to test drive it to see. I just ran into another problem though :/ I think that I broke the cable on the four wheel drive cause the lever just moves up and down
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Crazy.many differences on these years. On mine it's all rods no cables. 2000 wish you the best. That sucks.
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Crazy.many differences on these years. On mine it's all rods no cables. 2000 wish you the best. That sucks.
I don't know it might be a rod cause when I get under and I move a rod it moves the lever up and down
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When you do a body lift it essentially moves the console/bezel area up. So let's say before the BL your shifter at the previous level of your console moved 4" fwd and back between gears. When you do the body lift and move the console vertically up you got more shifter throw at that level, say 5-6 because it's farther away from the trans pivot point. Just throwing numbers out for reference. Sometimes this pulls the boot to tight and puts tension on the shifter making it hard to go in gear or your case pop out.
On my 03 I replaced my rubber boot w/ a pleather one from autozone.
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Did you or someone else install the BL? Check to see if the linkages are all connected to the transfer case. There is usually a drop bracket installed on the transfer case linkages to correct angles after a lift so maybe someone forgot something.
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When you do a body lift it essentially moves the console/bezel area up. So let's say before the BL your shifter at the previous level of your console moved 4" fwd and back between gears. When you do the body lift and move the console vertically up you got more shifter throw at that level, say 5-6 because it's farther away from the trans pivot point. Just throwing numbers out for reference. Sometimes this pulls the boot to tight and puts tension on the shifter making it hard to go in gear or your case pop out. On my 03 I replaced my rubber boot w/ a pleather one from autozone.
okay I will go up there tomorrow and ask I have it right now where it will go into gears without me having to hold it. On the gas line, do I just need to get some tubing I guess?
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What about gas line? I see nothing referencing gas line in your posts.
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When we first fitted my 2.5" lift and 1.25" body lift I had the same problem,
The stick wouldn't stay in gear 1 and 2, took it round to my mates who knows more about this stuff than me.
Dont no if its the right fix but he bend the stick slightly which seems to have cured it.
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When we first fitted my 2.5" lift and 1.25" body lift I had the same problem,
The stick wouldn't stay in gear 1 and 2, took it round to my mates who knows more about this stuff than me.
Dont no if its the right fix but he bend the stick slightly which seems to have cured it.
That would probably be ideal over what I did which was slide my whole center console back. Did you all have to heat it up any to bend it?
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That would probably be ideal over what I did which was slide my whole center console back. Did you all have to heat it up any to bend it?
A buddy had to fix this for me,
but I think he did add a bit of heat but it took a couple of go's to get it right.
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That would probably be ideal over what I did which was slide my whole center console back. Did you all have to heat it up any to bend it?
how did you move the console back, cause I think that's all I really need to do. Or a different boot, cause with the boot on it hits the metal around the boot.
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When we first fitted my 2.5" lift and 1.25" body lift I had the same problem, The stick wouldn't stay in gear 1 and 2, took it round to my mates who knows more about this stuff than me. Dont no if its the right fix but he bend the stick slightly which seems to have cured it.
wear exactly did you bend the stick at? Maybe it's just cause I'm a girl but I don't see how it would fix it
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And another thing, did y'all have a problem with the steering wheel rod hitting the frame or firewall
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Bending the shifter won't really help with this problem since the real source of the issue is restricted shifter throw caused by the shifter boot(s) being 3" higher which restricts how far the shifter can move.

This is a copy of what I wrote in response to your other posting on this problem...

A 3" body lift causes a lot of problems, and more than just that transmission shifter problem. I'd remove it and drop down to a 1" body lift at the most. A suspension lift is where most of a lift should come from, not a body lift.

What happens with the shifter with a 3" body lift is it raises the tub 3" off the frame. When the tub is raised up from the frame, that increases the distance between the transmission and the rubber shifter boot on the console which severely restricts the throw of the shifter. Even with a shifter extension, the throw of the shift lever would still be just as restricted. Whoever came up with that shift lever extension as a cure for shifting problems after a tall body lift needs to be educated as to what the real problem is. That Quadratec sells it is no surprise to me, they sell a lot of junk that doesn't or couldn't possibly do what it promises to do.

You could temporarily remove the shifter boot which is done by pulling one of its corners out to disengage it from a plate it fits over, then pulling it the rest of the way off. And depending on your model year, there may be a smaller diameter second rubber shift lever boo down underneath the top rubber shifter boot that needs to come out too which is a big contributor to the throw of the shifter being so severely restricted. That one just pulls off with a pair of needle nose pliers, it just snaps over the top of the transmission's shifter opening.

3" body lifts are just bad news, I wish they'd stop selling them. If you want 3" total additional clearance for your tires, a 2" budget suspension lift together with a 1" body lift would be a very good problem-free combination. They are also the mark of a newby, experienced Wrangler builders/owners would never install a 3" body lift. Never.
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Bending the shifter won't really help with this problem since the real source of the issue is restricted shifter throw caused by the shifter boot(s) being 3" higher which restricts how far the shifter can move. This is a copy of what I wrote in response to your other posting on this problem... A 3" body lift causes a lot of problems, and more than just that transmission shifter problem. I'd remove it and drop down to a 1" body lift at the most. A suspension lift is where most of a lift should come from, not a body lift. What happens with the shifter with a 3" body lift is it raises the tub 3" off the frame. When the tub is raised up from the frame, that increases the distance between the transmission and the rubber shifter boot on the console which severely restricts the throw of the shifter. Even with a shifter extension, the throw of the shift lever would still be just as restricted. Whoever came up with that shift lever extension as a cure for shifting problems after a tall body lift needs to be educated as to what the real problem is. That Quadratec sells it is no surprise to me, they sell a lot of junk that doesn't or couldn't possibly do what it promises to do. You could temporarily remove the shifter boot which is done by pulling one of its corners out to disengage it from a plate it fits over, then pulling it the rest of the way off. And depending on your model year, there may be a smaller diameter second rubber shift lever boo down underneath the top rubber shifter boot that needs to come out too which is a big contributor to the throw of the shifter being so severely restricted. That one just pulls off with a pair of needle nose pliers, it just snaps over the top of the transmission's shifter opening. 3" body lifts are just bad news, I wish they'd stop selling them. If you want 3" total additional clearance for your tires, a 2" budget suspension lift together with a 1" body lift would be a very good problem-free combination. They are also the mark of a newby, experienced Wrangler builders/owners would never install a 3" body lift. Never.
so would it be better if I just went down to a 1 and a half inch bl
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so would it be better if I just went down to a 1 and a half inch bl
Also I guess you just live and learn, I'm not too mad at myself for it, I think I might just go back down to a 1 and a half

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