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Old 08-28-2019, 08:37 PM
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Key start position spring or actuator pin

When turning the key from run to the start position, I have to turn the key to the stop (wont turn any further) to get the starter to turn...if that makes sense. And, there is little spring tension. Is this a symptom of my ignition actuator pin failing or possibly something else?


Sure appreciate any help/ideas.


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I’m not sure I understand the problem. Yes you have to turn the key past the on position to get it to the start position (normal) & I guess that is “to the stop”. I have never turned it past what is needed to get the starter to engage so can’t say that is at a “stop”. As for the spring tension (resistance) as far as I know the ignition switch has the return spring (tension).

Here is a link that describes how to check the actuator tip & also the ignition switch without removing the key cylinder/actuator assembly. There is also a link with a good photo of the 3 part assembly.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f210/h...l#post34327165

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Old 08-30-2019, 12:31 PM
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Thanks Rubi, im not explaining it very well. When you turn the key to the start position, its under spring pressure. My vehicles always start before the key is turned as far as they will go. In other words, i could turn the key several more degrees in the tumbler but never needed to as the Jeep starts. Now, when i turn the key, i have to turn it as far as it will physically turn in the tumbler before the engine starts, as though i am completely compressing the spring or am up against a stop.

I replaced the actuator pin assembly and the ignition switch two years ago. When the original actuator pin broke. Last time, there wasn't any warning, it just broke and the jeep wouldn't start. Having done it once, it wasn't terribly difficult to get at. I just thought i would ask around before i dug into it.

Thanks, I sure appreciate the link and help.
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OK, got it now.

I have seen reports where it will intermittently not start at first but turning it multiple times will eventually get it going. They never mentioned turning it further than normal though. In those cases the actuator tip was cracked, not yet broken off. I guess if they got it just right it would turn the switch just enough to get it started.

That might be what you have now. As in the link posted above, removing one bolt will allow you to pull the switch from the actuator so you can have a look.
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