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Old 09-28-2019, 01:22 PM
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Question Looking for a new rear bumper with the following criteria

My '05 TJ Rubi has a 2.5" OME leveling lift and LT 265s. Just came back from a fun visit to Moab, but on multiple trails the hitch receiver on my Mopar bumper scraped regardless of how slow down I came off a ledge. One of the guys I was wheeling with had an '04 Rubi, 265s and watching his departures he rarely scraped coming down so I'm looking for a bumper with:
  1. Receiver hitch fully recessed into the bumper
  2. Good corner protection
  3. Shackles or hooks
  4. Nice to have - opening receptacles for two or three LED cubes

Have wandered around on Quadratec, Morris 4x4, Extreme Terrain, CarID and a couple of others and haven't found exactly that combo.

Any recommendations?

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Old 09-28-2019, 06:19 PM   #2
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Look at Swag or Next Venture low profile bumpers. Both are available with hitch receivers. Those are the lowest profile options you will find.

After that, you will have to do some fab work to reduce the hitch exposure.
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Genright makes that same style too

https://genright.com/products/jeep-t...-step-v-2.html

I think Barnes is another.

I had planned to go this style. Since Iíve got an LJ which has extra space between the rear crossmember and the gas tank I was going to fab up a longer receiver that was recessed into that gap. But then I found a deal I couldnít pass up at a Jeep event from Crawler Conceptz. Iíd still prefer the super lo-profile style like these, but Iím not worried about beating the hell out of my bumpers.

Bumpers are for bumping.
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Have you looked at Dirtworx?
He is usually willing to do custom stuff so likely could get the LED cutouts added easily.
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Old 09-29-2019, 04:32 AM   #5
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I have this one,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fits-76-86-...MAAOSw7R9dgFlO

Company website

https://viciousoffroad.com/c-1389255...%7Cyear%3D2004

Pretty happy with it. I didn't want a tire carrier, so it fit the bill. I have yet to hit anything with it, but I haven't been to Moab. However since I do drive on the street, I wanted a little crumple zone for my frame if I get hit. I haven't had the use the shackles yet, so I can't comment. The mall is usually pretty safe.

I did add some extra braces to the bumper for more weight.

Jeep TJ Rear Bumper Brace Kit | Jeep TJ-LJ-YJ-CJ BFH Rear Bumpers | Poison Spyder Customs

I wanted the divot in the bumper to drop the height of the spare down as low as I could. I have a morryde tailgate support which allows me to adjust the where the spare sits.

https://www.extremeterrain.com/morry...-kit-9706.html

The other option is to goose it when you come off the ledge, so the bumper always clears!
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Genright makes that same style too

https://genright.com/products/jeep-t...-step-v-2.html

I think Barnes is another.

I had planned to go this style. Since I’ve got an LJ which has extra space between the rear crossmember and the gas tank I was going to fab up a longer receiver that was recessed into that gap. But then I found a deal I couldn’t pass up at a Jeep event from Crawler Conceptz. I’d still prefer the super lo-profile style like these, but I’m not worried about beating the hell out of my bumpers.

Bumpers are for bumping.
The Genright and Barnes version have a design flaw. They don't don't wrap the underside of the crossmember. If you actually use the bumper to bump or drag across rocks, they can deform and damage the crossmember.

I went from a large beam style bumper to the low profile style because I was getting tired of getting hung up on the bumper, both front and rear. The Jeep is 6" shorter and almost 200lbs lighter with less bulky bumpers and it is very evident both on and off road.
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i made 1 similar to those, but without any receiver. it's so tight on the back end IDK how you'd snag it. i'd have to drag the GTS across something and fall of of it to catch. mine does have tabs that wrap under and connect to the bottom of the frame as well. the snatch blocks would be what i worry about droppin onto things.

and i plan to add frame tie ins at the sides eventually, just haven't gotten to it.
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i made 1 similar to those, but without any receiver. it's so tight on the back end IDK how you'd snag it. i'd have to drag the GTS across something and fall of of it to catch. ...
That's exactly how I snagged mine on my first time out with it. 🙂
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i hope not.......... i didn't leave much of a lip there to catch, it's pretty flush with the cross member, the 2 corners is what i'd worry about most, they do have an edge that could be caught (kinda why i want those tie ins) and have considered angling/cutting them up more. i could also pull my 2 mounting pads and get another 3/8" tighter

mounting a hitch to this could be sketchy, it's just a plate (mine does have a 1/4" flat bar backer and 2, 3/8"mounting pads).
but to place a receiver there i'd want to drill all the way in through that rear cross member and run bolts from the bumper through to the cross member on both sides of the receiver to keep the plate from bending while pulling the weight.
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i hope not.......... i didn't leave much of a lip there to catch, it's pretty flush with the cross member, the 2 corners is what i'd worry about most, they do have an edge that could be caught (kinda why i want those tie ins) and have considered angling/cutting them up more. i could also pull my 2 mounting pads and get another 3/8" tighter

mounting a hitch to this could be sketchy, it's just a plate (mine does have a 1/4" flat bar backer and 2, 3/8"mounting pads).
but to place a receiver there i'd want to drill all the way in through that rear cross member and run bolts from the bumper through to the cross member on both sides of the receiver to keep the plate from bending while pulling the weight.
There is a good amount of discussion on my bumper plate and hitch in my build thread on WTJF.

I will say that if you are wheeling in a place where the absence of a bulky bumper matters, you will still drag a low profile bumper. My recessed receiver sticks out 2.25" from the plate face. Somehow, I haven't dragged the receiver yet, but the underside wrapped lip of the plate and underside bolt heads are all well scuffed just after two runs.
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good to know, i'll keep it in mind, thanx.....i really wanna bring her out west next summer and be more than happy to try and rip it off.

but i think eventually i may stretch the rear and then it should be moot with the back end 90* or beyond from the wheels.
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Good discussion gents, thanks for all the info.
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Not sure if it was mentioned already.... but most aftermarket bumpers with receivers are not rated for towing. Most manufacturers will state that in the fine print. Not sure if you tow or just use a receiver bike rack but definitely something to consider if you need a receiver bumper.
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most aftermarket bumpers with receivers are not rated for towing.
manufacturers dont want to add a tow rating as that will increase liability. as long as the material is of decent grade, welds are solid, and frame tie ins are used there is no issue towing the maximum 2000 lbs that the TJ is rated for.

I have not towed anything more than an empty harbor freight trailer with my Swag rear bumper, but I have no fear that the bumper and welds can handle 2000 lbs. the added departure angle keeps the back of my jeep from scraping/smashing when rolling over rocks
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manufacturers dont want to add a tow rating as that will increase liability. as long as the material is of decent grade, welds are solid, and frame tie ins are used there is no issue towing the maximum 2000 lbs that the TJ is rated for.

I have not towed anything more than an empty harbor freight trailer with my Swag rear bumper, but I have no fear that the bumper and welds can handle 2000 lbs. the added departure angle keeps the back of my jeep from scraping/smashing when rolling over rocks
Ha Ha Ha.....since I never tow with the TJ I did not realize it was only 2000 pounds. Good welds and frame tie ins and you are good to go. I went through all the tow rated stuff when i had the 2014 JKUR since I towed my Duck Boat and sometimes a small camper....3500-4000 pound range. All while trying to increase departure angles when off road with no hitch installed.
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