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11-12-2015, 11:53 PM
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Going to install Sunday and I'm pretty sure I've got it covered reading threads on the net. However I have yet to see this piece in any thread or mention of it or where it goes?!? I'm guessing on the transfer case end?
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11-13-2015, 01:32 AM
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Yes that goes on the transfer case
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11-13-2015, 08:01 AM
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I just installed one on a 99 two weeks ago, it shifts in/out of 4x4 like a dream now! I couldn't get my skid plate off, which would have made it easier. Definitely remove the front drive shaft and it's doable.
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11-13-2015, 12:21 PM
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11-13-2015, 12:42 PM
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This is on my To buy/do list.......
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11-13-2015, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jayjeep
Yes that goes on the transfer case
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Yep there's a similar part on the transfer case it replaces.
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11-17-2015, 09:29 AM
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Jeeper
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Finally got it installed without any issues. I didn't remove the driveshaft or the skid plate, only the topside boot plate because I replaced the lower gearshift boot. All and all an easy install. I don't know why I didn't do this years ago!
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11-17-2015, 09:49 AM
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Just wondering, how much did that cost. It looks really nice.
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11-17-2015, 11:46 AM
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Could someone explain to me the benefits of this? I heard it shifts smoother but my transfer case seems to shift fine if I let the jeep roll a bit. Is the lever just smoother? I might want to look into one of these soon.
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11-17-2015, 01:16 PM
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well for one, smoother shifting. then if you do any body lift or tummy tuck, you dont have to worry about the shift linkage being connected to the body. When ever you move the body or transfer case, you have to worry about the shift linkage. And I know the stock shift linkage was built for a reason, but to me it still seems somewhat inferior to cable driven shifters.
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- 85 Chevy Citation II w/ CB/PA, Cat delete, CherryBomb Glasspack -Sold
- 99 Dodge Ram 1500 w/ 2 inch BL, Black Grill -Scrapped
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11-17-2015, 01:19 PM
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thanks
looks primo, thanks for the pics
add another >$100 mod to the list
Quote:
Originally Posted by Szmich97tj
Finally got it installed without any issues. I didn't remove the driveshaft or the skid plate, only the topside boot plate because I replaced the lower gearshift boot. All and all an easy install. I don't know why I didn't do this years ago! Attachment 2629305
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11-17-2015, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coltonjohngray
Just wondering, how much did that cost. It looks really nice.
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I have the Novak cable shifter, which is extremely similar. Mine ran about $180.
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Originally Posted by jodomcfrodo
Could someone explain to me the benefits of this? I heard it shifts smoother but my transfer case seems to shift fine if I let the jeep roll a bit. Is the lever just smoother? I might want to look into one of these soon.
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I went with the Novak because my stock z-bar linkage got all bent up after some wheeling shenanigans and coming down hard on my skid. The t-case brackets that come with body lifts or suspension lifts aren't always ideally-designed and can further aggravate the already crappy stock z-bar design. Its also a great mod if you're planning to do a tummy tuck since the t-case gets moved up in the tunnel.
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11-18-2015, 10:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jodomcfrodo
Could someone explain to me the benefits of this? I heard it shifts smoother but my transfer case seems to shift fine if I let the jeep roll a bit. Is the lever just smoother? I might want to look into one of these soon.
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After a lift the original shift geometry gets thrown off, you can adjust it but it's very limited. It was tough to get into gears and would pop out of 4 low on extremely steep hills.
This cable makes shifting much smoother and has more adjustability than stock.
I got mine on 4low.com for 149.00 free shipping
It's the savvy version
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11-18-2015, 10:29 AM
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Not a spring lift it has no effect
What matters is transfer case height relative to body/frame
So motor mount lift or transfer case drop or body spacer lift change linkage geometry
But spring lift or spring spacer lift have no affect
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11-18-2015, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Szmich97tj
Finally got it installed without any issues. I didn't remove the driveshaft or the skid plate, only the topside boot plate because I replaced the lower gearshift boot. All and all an easy install. I don't know why I didn't do this years ago! Attachment 2629305
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Looks good! For anyone having issues with their linkage but doesn't need/want a cable shifter, the Advanced Adapters Stand Alone Transfer Case Shift Bracket works great. If you have a tummy tuck or are tight on space between the case and tub, the cables are the way to go. I'm not in that situation and I've been using the AA bracket for years and love it!
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11-22-2015, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digger84
Not a spring lift it has no effect What matters is transfer case height relative to body/frame So motor mount lift or transfer case drop or body spacer lift change linkage geometry But spring lift or spring spacer lift have no affect
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SORRY!!!!!
After a lift
And lowering the transfer case
Lowering the transfer case effected the shifter bracket
Lowering the transfer case effected the shifter bracket
After a lift
Getting my point across with double spaces
Double spaces
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11-22-2015, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Szmich97tj
SORRY!!!!!
After a lift
And lowering the transfer case
Lowering the transfer case effected the shifter bracket
Lowering the transfer case effected the shifter bracket
After a lift
Getting my point across with double spaces
Double spaces
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Most (!) of us got what you were saying.
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11-22-2015, 12:22 PM
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Late better than never
Still true body lift engine lift transfer case drop all affect stock linkage
Spring spacer or spring lift no effect on stock linkage as transfer case position to body and frame remains unchanged
Same as my prior post no double spaces needed
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11-23-2015, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digger84
Late better than never Still true body lift engine lift transfer case drop all affect stock linkage Spring spacer or spring lift no effect on stock linkage as transfer case position to body and frame remains unchanged Same as my prior post no double spaces needed
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Did you get picked on as a kid?
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11-23-2015, 04:07 PM
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Since the OP got his install done, perhaps I can hijack just enough to ask what the difference is in the Savvy and the Novak? They look identical to me from the photos.
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11-23-2015, 05:41 PM
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No, did you not that I care but you seem to be projecting your personal issues
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11-23-2015, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zrexxer
Since the OP got his install done, perhaps I can hijack just enough to ask what the difference is in the Savvy and the Novak? They look identical to me from the photos.
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I went with Novak by reputation, and I believe they originated the cable shifter. On their site, they show a comparison with a 'competitor's' version, explaining the differences: http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/shifters/sk2x/sk2xc. They don't name the competitor, but I suspect its Savvy since they're the only other company (of whom I'm aware) that market a similar product.
Either version is a significant upgrade from the stock design.
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11-23-2015, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JFjeld
They don't name the competitor, but I suspect its Savvy since they're the only other company (of whom I'm aware) that market a similar product.
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Yeah, I've seen that before, but I guess when they said "counterfeit" for some reason I thought they were just talking about nameless Chinese copies on eBay or something. Perhaps they really are talking about Savvy.
I'm definitely replacing mine soon as well; my stock linkage is rusty, crusty, and crunchy.
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11-23-2015, 11:32 PM
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Savvy's is not a counterfeit, it's just a different cable shifter for the transfer case and there are few ways to design that. It actually has an improvement or two over Novak's version which nevertheless is another excellent cable shifter.
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11-24-2015, 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Savvy's is not a counterfeit, it's just a different cable shifter for the transfer case and there are few ways to design that. It actually has an improvement or two over Novak's version which nevertheless is another excellent cable shifter.
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Can you go into a little detail regarding the improvements?
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11-24-2015, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFjeld
On their site, they show a comparison with a 'competitor's' version, explaining the differences: http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/shifters/sk2x/sk2xc. They don't name the competitor, but I suspect its Savvy since they're the only other company (of whom I'm aware) that market a similar product.
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They state that the "fake" one's are passed off as an actual Novak though, which I'm pretty sure Savvy isn't doing.
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