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Old 01-18-2016, 01:47 PM
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Skid plate not aligning after safe t caps

Hey guys, I'm having an issue on my 97 TJ, recently I had the safe t caps installed to fix frame rust, and now the skid plate is off about 1/4 inch to 1/2 an inch on some holes and I'm just looking for some advice to align it.

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Old 01-18-2016, 06:13 PM   #2
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Wish I could impart some knowledge about working with those, but I can't. I did however drop my skid plate this weekend to replace my transmission mount. When I went to bolt it back up, the mount bolts seemed to be off about the same amount. I had to lift the plate from the center with a jack and align the transmission mount first. Trying to bolt one side loosely than the other wasn't going to work at all. Or are you actually talking about the bolt inserts on the physical frame itself?

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I had to do the same the trick is to loosely install the transmission mount bolts (given that you have already put a jack in the middle of the skid plate and jacked it up) then align one side and put the bolts in loosely then go to the other side and align those up you will have to do the front bolt then the back bolt then the middle but dont tightening any of them until you have them started and loosely bolted with an impact.
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Seems like the standard procedure, raise the skid, attach trans mount, start the bolts on one side by a few threads, then align the other side and start them. Takes a bit of gentle persuasion.
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Thanks for the advice guys, ill give that a shot because i looked at it today and the transmission mount didn't line up either!
Ill let you guys know what happens on the next go around! thanks guys!
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Don't be afraid to use a ratchet strap if needed to help things into place.
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Be sure not to tighten anything until you get all the bolts lined up and started. That's the most important step in the process. Good luck
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Could it be possible that the motor mounts are weak causing "things" to move more than intended?

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Old 01-20-2016, 11:50 AM   #9
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No the skid plate is the transmission mount so when you unbolt it the transmission no longer has any support causing it to move.
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I placed my floor jack in front of the skid plate on the trans at the proper height then lifted my skid plate, loosely set the trans mount nuts, then I installed the bolts into the frame loosely. I got everything lined up and then tightened them. Use a second set of hands or another floor jack.
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Hey guys, I'm having an issue on my 97 TJ, recently I had the safe t caps installed to fix frame rust, and now the skid plate is off about 1/4 inch to 1/2 an inch on some holes and I'm just looking for some advice to align it.
how did you get the Safe-T-Caps installed without the skid plate?

the skid plate holds up a big part of the drivetrain...if it's not there, you need something to hold the transmission/t-case in place...

it should have been used to help align the Safe-T-Caps so they would be welded in the correct location relative to the rest of the frame & drivetrain....
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No the skid plate is the transmission mount so when you unbolt it the transmission no longer has any support causing it to move.
Yes its the other half that supports the drive train, if the motor mounts are old and weak it will cause the issue at hand.

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@unlimitedlj , the welder has his own TJ, so he used measurements from his jeep when he welded mine. he had the skid plate I just don't believe he used it
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@unlimitedlj , the welder has his own TJ, so he used measurements from his jeep when he welded mine. he had the skid plate I just don't believe he used it
I don't know how he welded the frame, how he braced the frame or anything else about his specific procedure. he may have done a hack job, who knows.

but there are a couple possibilities: 1) he welded things in the wrong position, 2) he warped the frame, 3) or some other combination resulting in the frame being damaged/bent/twisted. 4) or maybe the skid is damaged/bent/twisted. You've given us no information, no pictures or anything else to help direct you.

best case scenario you or he can jerry rig some fix to get the skid plate on. if he does a hack job of some sort, he'll probably weld the skid to the frame, which is a horrible idea. worst case scenario you wasted your money, and end up buy a good used frame and do a frame swap.

I still want to know how you have the Jeep, trying to install the skid plate. The vehicle can't be driven or even moved without the skid crossmember in place...it's a major component of frame integrity...and it holds up a big part of the drivetrain.

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