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Old 03-15-2015, 11:51 AM
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Weight on ft bumper

Just installed 46lb winch. Bumper height went down 3/8". Before installing winch, had a hi lift jack mounted there. Would like to put it back. How much "sag" is acceptable?
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Whatever is acceptable to you. When modifying a rig, you learn things on the way as you just did. Usually when you add or change something, there is a cause and effect. i.e. heavier winch = sag. To correct it, you either need to do a coil spacer or get stronger springs. Do you research before committing to either one of those.

Think about your long term objectives. If you will be adding more weight (armor), consider getting a higher rate spring. When doing any future mods, think about the outcome issues you might have and plan as necessary.

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You are starting to see, and this is a fine example IMO, of why a good lift will give you the OPTIONS depending on the type of build you are doing.

For "reference" I went with the "HEAVY SPRINGS" on my TJ and it was always the perfect setup for me. Winch tires, heavy bumpers etc.

When It came time to lift the JK I again went with the heavy kit because I knew I would be adding winch and steel bumper. Yep serious sag in the front..and ASS end looks like it is sitting high. I had been doubting my choice till Fed - EX sent message Fri rear bumper and tire carrier to arrive Mon, total weight 199 LBS!!! Yeah I bet that will drop that back end back down a little.
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A 46 lb. winch? That sounds too light for a winch that is suitable for extracting a Wrangler. The Warn M8000 which is the smallest recommended capacity for a Jeep weighs 76 lbs. for example. Smittybilt's (I don't recommend Smittybilt) 9.5K winch weighs 78 lbs. My Warn 9.5xp weighs 87 lbs.

What capacity is that 46 lb. winch you just installed? If it has less than 8,000 lbs. of pulling capacity, it's not suitable for use on a Jeep.
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A 46 lb. winch? That sounds too light for a winch that is suitable for extracting a Wrangler. The Warn M8000 which is the smallest recommended capacity for a Jeep weighs 76 lbs. for example. Smittybilt's (I don't recommend Smittybilt) 9.5K winch weighs 78 lbs. My Warn 9.5xp weighs 87 lbs. What capacity is that 46 lb. winch you just installed? If it has less than 8,000 lbs. of pulling capacity, it's not suitable for use on a Jeep.
X2. I think all the research i did i found that the Engo with synthetic line was the lightest in the 8000lb category at somewhere around 60lbs
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46 was shipping weight listed. Winch is 9500. Synthetic line. Could not afford Warn. At this time. I know a lot of you don't like this or that brand. Can anyone answer original question?
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46 was shipping weight listed. Winch is 9500. Synthetic line. Could not afford Warn. At this time. I know a lot of you don't like this or that brand. Can anyone answer original question?
Sorry I didn't really answer that....IMO it is whatever the Jeeper/ person building the Jeep is comfortable with....unless your tires are getting cut by the fenders.....than there might be an issue.....For my self I want at least as much clearance as I had stock......GOOD LUCK!!
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46 lbs. isn't going to cause enough sag to worry about. Not that I recommend a Hi-Lift, I'd put it in the rear like via big u-bolts around the base of the rear rollbar. Hi-Lifts mounted on the front bumper are exposed to the elements so they corrode more easily and just put more weight on the front that isn't necessary.

I'd sure love to know what 9,500 lb. capacity winch only weighs 46 lbs. Not even Smittybilt's is that light. Is it going to remain a secret?
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Ok did research. 78lbs. Don't know why shipping said 46. Smittybuilt xrc 9500. $449.00. 2" susp lift, 33"Mickey thompson's
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