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Old 12-17-2017, 03:33 PM
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What to puy on a tailgate, other than a spare

Does anyone make a rack that goes on the outside of the tailgate for stuff other than a spare. Jerry cans, high lift, shovel, etc. Theres plenty of ones that go with a spare tire but i cant find one without a spare.

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Old 12-17-2017, 05:45 PM   #2
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where's your spare???
you gonna use the big jack to pop the bead and the shovel to fill it up, to get home when u get a flat?

the main reason for anything at the tail is to support that spare, most everything else is secondary purposing i'd think.
few places do custom tailpieces or sell their design and build parts. u could make any configuration of items u liked.

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Smittybilt builds some stuff that is "Universal," that I've seen people put on the tail gate.

The thing is, I don't think (I dont have any hard evidence to back this up, mind you...) that the tail gate is designed to hold much more than a stock spare tire. Judging from the wear on the '06 that I'm chief mechanic on, I don't think it's really designed well enough for that, even.

There are mounts out there that weld onto/replace/bolt onto bumpers that house swing away spare tires, fuel tanks, jacks, water, anything else that you want. They move the weight and stress away from stock mounting locations and over to a bumper that stresses the frame of the vehicle instead of the body. I learned about those because I'm a Bronco guy and those have even weaker mounting points for the spare tires than Jeeps do.

What all do you want to mount to those little hinges back there?

Once you come to a decision on what all you need to carry in the back end of your rig, you'll better be able to figure out how to mount it safely.
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I'd bet you would have more replies if you posted this to the discussion forum, not the tech forum.
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I have a WP rack on my tailgate.

I used it to haul a tire once.

I really don't like the idea of hanging a lot of weight on the tailgate. A spare is like 60lb, 2 jerry cans are 60-80lbs plus whatever gear goes on the rack--20-40lbs? that's almost 200lbs on those factory hinges--maybe they are up for it, IDK.
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Nothing, the stock tailgate is barely up to a full-size spare tire.
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Thanks all, im not a big fan of the bare tailgate, and my 33 was too much weight for it. Didnt rhink about jerry cans and my high lift being that heavy.. touche... hmmm itll probably just stay bare i guess. Thanks anyways!
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where's your spare???
you gonna use the big jack to pop the bead and the shovel to fill it up, to get home when u get a flat
Think that would work?? Lol i put the spare either on my roof (makes it too top heavy) or just in the back depending on what else i bring
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haha, i'm just bustin your balls. the gate hinges are weak moving the weight to the bumper is ideal.
there are several heavy duty hinge mounts available that will hold good bit of weight allowing the gate to be more usefull. sorry I don't recall the mfgr's .
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Thanks all, im not a big fan of the bare tailgate, and my 33 was too much weight for it. Didnt rhink about jerry cans and my high lift being that heavy.. touche... hmmm itll probably just stay bare i guess. Thanks anyways!
A tire plug kit, a source of air, and my factory OE tire jack is all I carry for my 35" tires.

You absolutely do not need and in fact should not use a Hi-Lift to change flats. They're too unstable and unsafe for tire changing duties which is why cars & Jeeps no longer come with that style jack from the factory as they used to. The OE bottle jack is more than enough for up to 35" tires, it could even change a 37" tire in a pinch. My Hi-Lift hasn't been out of my shed in 13-14 years despite the difficulty of the trails my TJ regularly sees.

This is my OE factory jack lifting my 35" tire several inches up off the floor...
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I once had a couple ammo cans mounted on the back. Made a bracket for them out of angle iron. I eventually realized it looked stupid, so now I'm running bare with the spare in the back.
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Thanks all, im not a big fan of the bare tailgate, and my 33 was too much weight for it. Didnt rhink about jerry cans and my high lift being that heavy.. touche... hmmm itll probably just stay bare i guess. Thanks anyways!
my TJ came with 33 inch tires & only a 31 inch spare which was wreaking havoc on my tailgate so when I replaced it with a 33 I needed a new plan. I considered upgrading to oversized hinges rather than a swing out but had to see what that would look like first so I tried to mount the 33 on the stock carrier but found it didn’t fit because the tire itself hit the stock bumper preventing it from going on flush to the mounting bracket. I then tried putting the tire on the bumper first at an angle & pushing the rim up to the bracket & it ended up sliding right on the studs with almost no weight on the bracket (I was able to slide the rim back & forth easily on the studs). That’s when I realized that the weight of the tire was being supported by the bumper & not the bracket/tailgate, so while the lug nuts hold the tire in place the weight is firmly on the bumper where I want it; been doing that ever since & I’ve removed it many times & the tailgate is in perfect working order.

Only downside of this is that the tire is really tight on the bumper (good) so I cannot open the tailgate with the spare on because it un-jams itself putting the full weight on the tailgate (bad) & it cannot be closed again without removing the spare, closing the gate then re-mounting the spare. Turns out none of that matters to me because it’s a dedicated weekend wheeler & I never need to open the gate because the only thing in the rear is my toolbox which is easily accessible from inside so what was initially a temporary fix has turned permanent. Maybe one day I’ll get off the cash & do it ‘right’ but unless my uses change it hardly seems worth it.

I don’t know if this would work for you but maybe give it a try, I got lucky because my spare (Falken Wildpeak 33x12.5) just happens to cooperate perfectly but I know not all manufacturers are the same diameter which could negatively impact the effectiveness of this approach.

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