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Old 04-15-2014, 12:04 AM
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Another wanting a smooth ride question

So on my 89 YJ I installed new basic leaf springs and prothane bushings. No lift. Monroe shocks. I am very disappointed with the ride. It is very stiff and bouncy compared to what it was with the original leafs. I followed a lot of the advice given in the forum - I removed the front and rear track bars, I reduced the torque to 45 ft lb. I am still very disappointed. The jeep bounces over every bump. I wish I had my old leafs back (I threw them away). Suggestions? Thanks.

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Your old springs may have been wore out. Why you may have had such a cushy ride. Plus new springs are stiff. Four leafs aren't as stiff as 5's. Wranglers ride a little bouncy. I removed my track bars and it made a great difference. My 3˘

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Who made the "basic leaf springs"? Rubber bushings actually ride softer but are not as durable as prothane. Did you tighten the shackle bolts with the jeep on the ground? You say your jeep bounces, do you mean it bounces up and down over a bump, or do you mean it's jarring? Photos could help.
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Yeah that's an important fact. You should tighten suspension up with weight of vehicle on them. They'll bind up, pinch bushings etc.
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The Monroe shocks you have can have a LOT to do with the ride, some are just to heavy duty for a jeep.
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Sorry man, but if you want a smooth ride from a YJ, you're always going to be disappointed. You can try the things mentioned above to "help", but it's always going to be like riding in a wooden wagon.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:58 PM   #7
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I agree with Charlie brown. If you want a smooth ride by a TJ or newer.
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Actually my YJ rides pretty nice....at least compared to my 2008 2500HD. The only time my truck rides nice is when I load up the toys and trailer to about 10,000 LBS, then it rides like a caddy.
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Thanks, this weekend I'll take some pictures and post more info. However, my ride was much smoother before I changed out the spring leafs and bushings and shocks. That's where my question really is - what should I try to go back on to get back my smoother ride - the shocks? What would be better than Monroe sensitrac for example?
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Sorry man, but if you want a smooth ride from a YJ, you're always going to be disappointed. You can try the things mentioned above to "help", but it's always going to be like riding in a wooden wagon.
Sorry to disappoint your negativity, but:

Old Man Emu springs + OME shocks + greasable shackles =



I swear I heard an angelic chorus and harp music the first time I drove on my OME lift.

Seriously though. Rides like a 1996 Cadillac DeVille on the road, right from the start. No break in period.

mlelah- regarding options to smoothen the ride you might want to try softer shocks and maybe greaseable shackles. But if the springs are themselves too stiff, there isn't much to be done without changing the springs.
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Sounds like you bought cheap leaves and even cheaper shocks.The cheapest shocks.Ever hear the term, you get what you pay for ?Did you grease the prothanes before install?, how much air is in your tires ?
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Sorry to disappoint your negativity, but:

Old Man Emu springs + OME shocks + greasable shackles =



I swear I heard an angelic chorus and harp music the first time I drove on my OME lift.

Seriously though. Rides like a 1996 Cadillac DeVille on the road, right from the start. No break in period.

mlelah- regarding options to smoothen the ride you might want to try softer shocks and maybe greaseable shackles. But if the springs are themselves too stiff, there isn't much to be done without changing the springs.
X2- I keep reading posts about a lifted yj never riding as good as stock, not true, my 2" bds and greaseable bushings along with 26lbs of air in the tires rides way better than stock ever did. you get what you pay for.
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Everyone keeps saying it, so I will too. The brand of spring goes a long way. I ran Procomps on my highschool jeep back in the day and it was a rough ride to say at the least. I currently run 4" BDS springs and I DD the jeep. I also run about 15-16lbs in the tires. It is a comfortable ride, for a YJ that is. I actually prefer mine to my dad's TJ.
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OK, I see my mistake! If I start with the spring leafs, what brands/types will give me a smoother ride?
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I think most people would agree that the cream of the crop would be Old Man Emu and BDS Suspension. OME only offers a 2.5" suspension, but they did a damn good job engineering it. BDS Suspension did a good job too with their springs, and they offer a wider range of lift heights and an excellent warranty that can't be beat.
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But I'm not looking for a lifted truck. What's the best spring leafs, bushings, shocks for an smoother basic ride?
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I am running 4.5 Rubicon Express springs and Bilstein shocks. My TJ rides just as nice if not better than my wifes's TJ. Those who say get use to it, it's a jeep are either trolls or have the wrong equipment on their jeep. Go with the better springs and shocks and you will be happy. EMU, BDS, RE, etc are all good, proven companies that produce springs. Get a good shock. I love my Bilstein 5100's. Mae sure you tighten the shackle bolts with the weight of the jeep and also play with tire pressure till you find the right setting. But by all means, do not accept the idea that just because you own a YJ it is suppose to be a "covered wagon"!!!!
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OK thanks. I feel most of the bounce/problems in the front - would this imply a front problem? Would it be sufficient to replace the front leafs/shocks, or do I need to do all 4, or can I start with front and see?
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You can do the front and rear independantly, but there is usually a price break for doing all four at the same time. Sky-Jacker has a rebate if you buy four shock, for example. Can you guess what I'm doing this weekend? :-)
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What about Skyjacker softride leaf springs?
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Look at zone offroad , I read some great reviews on them , 2" lift is right around $500.00
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I recently put a 4 inch zone lift on our jeep. My wife and I are very satisfied with the ride compared to what it was.
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before you go spending money there are a few things you can try to get yours riding better.
reducing the shackle torque is good but did you leave everything loose till you put weight on the suspension then torqued? if not loosen everything up and re torque.
are your bushing sleeves the correct length? they should be slightly longer than the bushings so the shackles tighten on the sleeves not the bushings.
do you still have your track bars? either remove them or free them up so they are working properly. check your stabilizer bar to be sure it moving freely.
how long have the springs been on the jeep? it takes a while to break in, going off road and flexing helps, take a few friends with you for extra weight.
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Sorry man, but if you want a smooth ride from a YJ, you're always going to be disappointed. You can try the things mentioned above to "help", but it's always going to be like riding in a wooden wagon.
'it's always going to be like riding in a wooden wagon' hahahah omg this literally made my day. I still love my YJ Tho
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Sorry man, but if you want a smooth ride from a YJ, you're always going to be disappointed. You can try the things mentioned above to "help", but it's always going to be like riding in a wooden wagon.
+1...It has sold axels and leafs springs.....I like to call my buggie!...lol
I drive my YJ for couple days and get back in my expedition and it feels like it's on air bags..lol
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I have an original 1995 wrangler and second owner. No mods to suspension and it rides pretty hard. I did remove the track bars on advice of this forum. It bounces pretty good on the freeway when I hit bad spots (CA freeways are shit). Would new stock rated shocks help? Because the leaf springs are so stiff it is hard to tell if the shock are bad or not. It does not bounce more than once when hitting a bump. Off road in the desert was pretty bumpy but that was expected. Do not want to put in a riser kit.
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start by changing the shocks, not the springs

you want a good hydro shock for a smoother ride
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If you remove the shocks and take a short CAREFUL test drive you can get an idea if shocks or springs are the problem.... I'm not talking freeway... I'm talking drive over a chunk of 2x4 in front of your house....
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My '87 was hitting the bumpstops with the slightest bump riding on the original stock springs.
I bought General Spring heavy duty springs (5 leaf) and mid-grade NAPA shocks.
I'm real happy with the setup. On the highway the Jeep is rock solid and off road, well it doesn't matter off road.

What brand springs did you buy?
Since you already spent what you spent on the springs, I'd try softer shocks. YJs are light vehicles and don't require a lot of shock.
Try 20-22lbs of pressure in your tires.

OP states he's not looking for a lifted truck. I think he means JEEP.
I suggest he try rubber spring bushings.
If OP gets 100 suggestions for shocks, 95 of them will be for different shocks.

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If you remove the shocks and take a short CAREFUL test drive you can get an idea if shocks or springs are the problem.... I'm not talking freeway... I'm talking drive over a chunk of 2x4 in front of your house....
That makes sense. i know the jeep with leaf springs is not the ride of a luxury car or even a jeep that does not have leaf springs. Since I believe these might be the original shocks it just makes me wonder what it would be like with new ones. It has 167k miles.
Any suggestions on shocks that give a smooth ride?

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