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Old 12-19-2015, 11:40 PM
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Bolt Pattern Year Model Change

Just what year did the bolt pattern change? Craig's List is loaded with factory new "take-offs" at bargain prices. However, the listings are pretty inconsistent when it comes to what they say they will fit.

For instance, the man I bought my 05 LJ said that it has 07 wheels and tires. Many of the Craig's List adds say that these newer wheels, that look exactly like mine, say that they fit 07 & up.

There are some real bargains on brand new Rubicon sets. I would snatch up some for when I need them.

With that said, Craig's List is so full of flakes that I don't want to depend on somebody over 100 miles away telling me that what he has will fit mine, only to get there and discover otherwise.

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no 2007 and up wheels do not fit on a tj or yj. the 07 and up have a 5x5 bolt pattern while the tjs and yjs have a 5x4.5 although you can get wheel spacers to change the pattern without changing out the hubs and all that but many people here wouldnt recommend that.

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Old 12-19-2015, 11:55 PM
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no 2007 and up wheels do not fit on a tj or yj. the 07 and up have a 5x5 bolt pattern while the tjs and yjs have a 5x4.5 although you can get wheel spacers to change the pattern without changing out the hubs and all that but many people here wouldnt recommend that.
I know I don't have spacers, however look at this add.
https://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/5365280765.html

The wheels on this 02 look just like what is on my 05, and he said they were 07's.

Is there a difference that I am just not seeing? It almost looks like my wheels and the ones on this 02 have the spokes sort of "countersunk" from the outer rim vs. newer ones.
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Regarding the C-list ad.; Did Jeep start painting the flares to match the paint job?
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:11 AM   #5
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If theirs no wheel spacers The only think I could think of it someone did a hub conversion on the axles or even they just bought aftermarket wheels that look like jk wheels with a Tj bolt pattern
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I know I don't have spacers, however look at this add.
https://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/5365280765.html

The wheels on this 02 look just like what is on my 05, and he said they were 07's.

Is there a difference that I am just not seeing? It almost looks like my wheels and the ones on this 02 have the spokes sort of "countersunk" from the outer rim vs. newer ones.

The ones that fit without any spacers, are TJ Moabs. They came on 03-06 Rubis. They're 16x8.
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If that's what you have then they are not 07 JK wheels. Those are stock TJ Rubicon wheels.
You'll still need to be careful since Quadratech now sells a wheel that looks the same but is 5x5 bolt spacing. I'm sure the bulk of what you find on Craigslist will be oem wheels though.
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I just checked again. They are Jeep brand wheels with Bridgestone Dueller A/T P255/70R/18s. The seller said that they were factory take-offs. I sure thought he said they were 07s.

Actually just had a "duh" moment and went out and measured the bolt pattern----4 3/4".
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I just checked again. They are Jeep brand wheels with Bridgestone Dueller A/T P255/70R/18s. The seller said that they were factory take-offs. I sure thought he said they were 07s.

Actually just had a "duh" moment and went out and measured the bolt pattern----4 3/4".
That would be Sahara wheels. The JK Rubi wheels are 17"
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That would be Sahara wheels. The JK Rubi wheels are 17"
What year model though! My main question for this thread was, am I going to still find bargain take-off's? I really like these wheels & tires and would grab a deal on another set within reasonable driving distance, (Dallas), tomorrow.

So far everything I have read would lead me to think I will just be buying tires from now on for my 4 3/4" bolt pattern wheels at full price vs. the occasional bargain take-offs.

On the other hand, I'm thinking that if I can't find bargain take-offs my next purchase may be some black wheels with a slightly negative offset for just a little bit wider footprint and whatever tires, BFGs, etc. The LJ is red with black hard top, black fender flares, and custom welded black front/rear bumpers.

It won't ever get a lift. Wheels & tires are as far from stock as it will ever get when it comes to handling.
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What year model though! My main question for this thread was, am I going to still find bargain take-off's? I really like these wheels & tires and would grab a deal on another set within reasonable driving distance, (Dallas), tomorrow.

So far everything I have read would lead me to think I will just be buying tires from now on for my 4 3/4" bolt pattern wheels at full price vs. the occasional bargain take-offs.
07-16 JK have a 5x5 pattern. 87-06 have 5x4 1/2.
If you want the TJ Moabs, they were only available 03-06. They will be a 16x7 wheel. Most others will be a 15x7 or 8.
If you want the JK wheels, just buy a set of Spidertrax spacers for $200.
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Oh well, I have a lot of miles left on these and have a while to think about it. The wider footprint and black wheels is sounding better all the time. With the rest of the black trim I think I will like the look.

Thanks for all the feedback!!!

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