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Old 12-27-2011, 09:18 AM
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So I found this company called Trailworthyfab.com they build custom H1 wheels with an internal pvc insert for a bead lock. After some debate I decided to order a set $1862 with shipping. My overall experience with them was some what positive. They modified the wheels in under two weeks. They were sent to the powder coat shop where half the was was powder coated black, the other hafl that I wanted green sat for little over two weeks cause the shop didnt want to run the green till they had more orders for it. The wheels were sent on a truck by Saia, the delivery date was 12/21/11. I look on there tracking site on the 21st only to see that they arrived on the 18th, i was never notified. They are extremely heavy 145lbs per corner, tires are a load range E 3800lbs @ 50psi. After getting some balancing sand put in i hit the pavement. They ride pretty smooth for such a heavy wheel. And where I live they are street legal cause there NOT a bead lock wheel. Trails the tire perform well Im still experimenting with the air pressure, for on road and off. Anyway thought I would share my experience with them to all you fellow jeepers in case you were looking at them or didn't know about them. Well last but not least heres a pic



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I finaly got to go out and put these tires to work. Street pressure at 30 psi, offroad pressure 4 psi. They performed very well on wet roads, but due to the weight jeep feels alittle slugish. Probably more cause of my gear choice 4.56. Offroad the performed better then my Iroks did on wet trails, and wet rocks. Few places that required me to lock.up either or both end with Iroks I did not have to with these tires. Didn't take them in very much mud but the stuff I did go through they didn't clean out as effective.as swampers. If your looking for a tire for use in mud this isn't a good choice. But I run trails and rock, very little mud these work better then my Iroks did. Going to test them out in the snow here soon.

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Thanks for posting this thread. I have been looking at these wheels. 1 big advantage for me is that the 16.5 military pulloffs (wranglers) can be bought for a 1/3 of the price of new iroks, creepy crawlers, or in my case maxxis. Your jeep is nice. I really like your front fenders what kind are they? I those look so much better than flatties.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:24 PM
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Yea the tires are dirt cheap, I got tbd groove cut ones they were $150 each. They still had the little nipples on the side they were that new. Fenders are metalcloak, can't tell you how happy I am with them. Also you can remove the flare if needed.
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Great company and they make some great sutff as well.

As for the 16.5's the only down fall is available tire size if your in a pinch and need a tire or tires.

I wanted to get some 16.5's but they won't clear my calipers on the tons.
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^^^I run 16's on tons and they clear the dual pistons on a ford front just fine....I tried some H1 rims about 11 years ago and they rubbed the knuckle, not the caliper.
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16.5" tires are hard to find and when you do the sticker shock is enough to kill ya. I'll stick with my 15's.
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True, but when you get to big tires they are more plentiful. The other thing to remember about a 16.5 is you have to run a double beadlock or you will blow the inside bead off.
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Swampers makes alot of sizes for the 16.5 rim from 33's up too 44's. Also these tires
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With the bigger tires.... that's why I like my 17s easier to deal with and at that point in time with running a BIG tire it's gonna have a cost anyways... LOL
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With the bigger tires.... that's why I like my 17s easier to deal with and at that point in time with running a BIG tire it's gonna have a cost anyways... LOL
Personally, I don't think there is anything easier or better than dealing with split hummer wheels. Of course, I'm probably a little biased.
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The staz ones are pretty easy too
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The other thing to remember about a 16.5 is you have to run a double beadlock or you will blow the inside bead off.
so even on the road they will mess up? when you go to buy them it is an option. I'm just wondering because I was about to order some but I wasn't going to get the pvc inserts to reduce the weight. I very rarely go off-road and if I do it's not too rough.
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nah they have been around for a long long time. They have a tapered bead instead of a square one is the main difference. When aired down they don't hold tight against the wheel unless held there by a beadlock. I run 44x16.5 boggers on the street and never had an issue.
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so even on the road they will mess up? when you go to buy them it is an option. I'm just wondering because I was about to order some but I wasn't going to get the pvc inserts to reduce the weight. I very rarely go off-road and if I do it's not too rough.
The PVC inserts weigh 10 pounds. The combo of any steel wheel plus the PVC is 6 pounds heavier than a 17" Raceline single bead lock wheel. So the weight factor isn't really there when you consider the alternative. If you plan to run a 16.5 you should run the inserts. Then you never have to worry about the tire coming off.
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Well I was just asking because it's a difference of $200. Why get them if I'll never need them. I've only aired down once. I hate to say this but it is a mall crawler and I can count on my hands how many times it has been put in 4wd. I don't think I'm going to get them based on my need. Unless I misunderstood Ibuildembig. No offense mr. clifford.
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Well I was just asking because it's a difference of $200. Why get them if I'll never need them. I've only aired down once. I hate to say this but it is a mall crawler and I can count on my hands how many times it has been put in 4wd. I don't think I'm going to get them based on my need. Unless I misunderstood Ibuildembig. No offense mr. clifford.


I wouldn't think about it in terms of airing down. You take a bigger risk of losing air pressure on road from picking up road debris. If you get a tiny nail hole in your tire and start to lose air pressure you can easily work the tire off the wheel going around a corner. A blow out is never convenient. I would rather have a flat while wheelin than a flat in traffic.

The $200 bones is minimal compared to the cost of a blow out on the road.

Like I have said before... I'd rather see someone go with something else than see them run a 16.5 without an insert. I can take some pics of the wheels for clarification if you would like to see the reasons behind the inserts.
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Man that would be awesome! I've tried to find out the whole thing behind the 16.5 wheels but there are so many opinions. If you posted something with some pictures I'm sure it would help alot of people. and with balancing them, better to have a heavy duty shop do it (my preference) or try like the sand or bbs thing. This is a dd on highways.
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I took my H1 wheels to 4wheelparts to have them spin balanced but the first one they tried required 15oz of lead. So I had sand put in them. I took them out one trip on road speed i only got up too 45mph as its the speed limit. They did well think i had little too much air but they didn't vibrate much. On the way home I feel asleep while driving and my jeep went in to a ditch, only had the tires 3 days. So my jeeps been down for the past week while i built a new motor mount and tie rod. My jeeps not a DD but I do drive it a lot more then my XJ.
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I took my H1 wheels to 4wheelparts to have them spin balanced but the first one they tried required 15oz of lead. So I had sand put in them. I took them out one trip on road speed i only got up too 45mph as its the speed limit. They did well think i had little too much air but they didn't vibrate much. On the way home I feel asleep while driving and my jeep went in to a ditch, only had the tires 3 days. So my jeeps been down for the past week while i built a new motor mount and tie rod. My jeeps not a DD but I do drive it a lot more then my XJ.

Holy crap Chris. Are you alright??

Apart from that. It may be worth your while to rotate the tire on the wheel and try to balance again. If you got the heavy side of the tire on the heavy side of the wheel you can see that kind of weight needed to balance. Usually a rotate will help out a ton. Thanks for posting pics of your rig and for your review!!


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Man that would be awesome! I've tried to find out the whole thing behind the 16.5 wheels but there are so many opinions. If you posted something with some pictures I'm sure it would help alot of people. and with balancing them, better to have a heavy duty shop do it (my preference) or try like the sand or bbs thing. This is a dd on highways.
This is my wheel. There are many like it... but this one is mine.



You can see where the bead seats on the wheel. It is tapered on each side to aid in seating the bead easily. The flip side of the coin is that when you lose air pressure it becomes very easy to lose the bead.

If you look on the grey side of the wheel you can see a grease ring around the bead. That is where the bead seats.



When you install the PVC there is no possible way for the tire to move. The PVC insert is designed to put pressure on the bead so it does not allow the bead to pop off in any circumstance. An added benefit is that the insert digs into the bead to keep the tire from rotating on the wheel.



And the opposite side.




The insert isn't just an added benefit for running double bead locks. The 16.5 was never designed to run without them. That is why you will hear and read about some people saying to never run 16.5s because some people choose to run without the inserts. The honest truth is that there aren't many other options out there to safely retain both beads. Or for so cheap.
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edit: Couldn't see the pics at first but they work now!

Love the looks of the H1 wheels
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Thanks man! It's crazy how a visual can help so much. I can see how it can come off now. I mean for the 200 and the added weight it is worth it. If my luck with tires getting nails in them was better I'd probably take my chances without them. lol. thank you guys for helping me. Sorry banks for jacking your thread. Can you let us know how that sand works out at higher speed once you get yours back on the road?
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I don't know how I didn't get hurt. I'll try rotating the tire on my next days off thanks for the suggestion. All I need to do is get an alignment done, but I'm starting my rotation won't be off work for a week. On another note my god the valve stem is hard to get too. First time I went to air up after I was done wheeling I couldn't get my air chuck to click on. Lucky for me DrHolliday had his pump that had a screw on chuck.
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We use this kind to make it easier to get in there.

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Yea that's what I use at home but my little Viair pump takes 3 mins to fill. Just don't feel like being bent over that long.
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Hmmm now I'm gonna have to see if 16.5s will clear.
The pics and explanation helped out.
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Hmmm now I'm gonna have to see if 16.5s will clear.
The pics and explanation helped out.
16.5s clear my one ton brakes front and rear.
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I keep going back and forth on getting a set of these. Need to regear before going up to 37's at about 140 lbs per corner it will loose a bit of power on the hwy.

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