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Old 11-21-2015, 09:46 PM
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E load tires

I know its been discussed and I have read some posts, but I would really like some opinions on E load tires. I am considering going to 18" wheels on my rubicon just because I like the slightly larger wheel look but will also do a level kit and go with 33s. Obviously 18" wheels are not super popular for many reasons but one being the tire availability. It seems all the mud terrain or aggressive tires for 18" wheels are E load. I am really wanting to here from some people that have them or had them and if it really is a much rougher ride and other downfalls. My jeep is a DD so dont want to ruin the ride because of a look I want. Input would be appreciated!

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What tires, load range are on it right now?

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Old 11-22-2015, 01:56 AM   #3
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I have a jk with load e tires. Load e mud tites came stock. Figured it was due to them thinking i would take it off road. Just got a set of ko2, wanted something more winter friendly. Had a choice if c or e. Went e for the off roading. They feel mire pliable than the km2s
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I have run C, D and E on my 14 jkur and blindfolded passenger could not tell the difference. C's were Cooper at3 (275/70-17), D KO2's (34x10.5-17) and E's were Toyo at2's (285/75-17 and 35/12.5-17)

hit @JimmyW up he just put on some 18" on his new jkur in 285/75-17 in E.
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Thanks for the input guys. That makes me feel better a bit as I had read some reviews with people saying they rode bad. I have a 15 Rubicon so it came with mud terrains stock but when you look up the size they are actually a c load.
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E's are usually more durable with tougher sidewalls as well. For ex. the KO2's come with a 3 ply sidewall on E's, but a 2 ply sidewall on a C load. It's listed on tire rack site.

I have drove a few jeeps with C load, and my TJR came with E's, it felt fine to me. They are tougher and with that comes a few extra lbs. Compromises.
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Yeah true. I want a more aggressive look but man the jeep drives so good.. I do not want to completely ruin the ride either so trying to really research it.
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I run 295/70r18 Cooper Discoverer STMaxx - E load range on stock Sahara Rims with Spidertraxx 1.5" spacers. I've been very pleased with E range tires at around 29-30 psi on the road. Not much, If any penalty in ride from the stock Duelers. The only things I don't like about 18" wheels and tires is the increased cost of tires - seriously it's less rubber and the increased surface area for rock rash on the wheels off road.
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thanks for the feedback, yeah they are more expensive. What about your gas mileage running around 30psi on those tires?
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thanks for the feedback, yeah they are more expensive. What about your gas mileage running around 30psi on those tires?
I get about 15 Mpgs on mostly back roads about 17 Mpgs on the highway its auto. I used s Flashcal to calibrate and turn of the TPMS low tire light. I lost about 1.5- 2 Mpgs due to weight and bigger tires. Still running stock 3.73 gears
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E's are usually more durable with tougher sidewalls as well. For ex. the KO2's come with a 3 ply sidewall on E's, but a 2 ply sidewall on a C load. It's listed on tire rack site.

I have drove a few jeeps with C load, and my TJR came with E's, it felt fine to me. They are tougher and with that comes a few extra lbs. Compromises.
They make KO2s with 2 ply sidewalls? I didn't know those existed.

As far as ride quality..."bad" isn't a good term. They WILL ride more stiff and they won't conform to obstacles as well. But that doesn't necessarily mean the ride is bad. Depends on your tastes.

When I really have noticed it is going from P to LT-D and then back to P. Going back to a passenger vehicle tire is like driving on pillows. You really notice the change. You also notice it when you get to skip the gas stations more often.
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They make KO2s with 2 ply sidewalls? I didn't know those existed. As far as ride quality..."bad" isn't a good term. They WILL ride more stiff and they won't conform to obstacles as well. But that doesn't necessarily mean the ride is bad. Depends on your tastes. When I really have noticed it is going from P to LT-D and then back to P. Going back to a passenger vehicle tire is like driving on pillows. You really notice the change. You also notice it when you get to skip the gas stations more often.
are you talking about off road with a P tire? My Es flex surprisingly well and I can air down to 13 psi with no issues. The places I am going have shred my buddy's BFG KO2 in the sidewall and I can't image what a passenger car tire would look after going through this. If it's strictly a road vehicle P might be a consideration but I would worry
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I think tread has a lot to do with all this. I went from MTR's 245s in E which came stock on the Rubi. Just got KO2s, one size up to 265 in E and seems to roll much easier, steer very easy and ride smoother. No it doesn't ride as soft as our Mazda CX5, but it ain't bad.

Also at only two weeks, it's a bit early to tell but seems mpg seems no worse, even tho' I went up a size and each tire weighs 3.5 lbs. more. I guess it's all perspective because in the Tacoma forums guys were complaining they were losing 2 mpg when they went to KO2 265/E but their stock tires weigh 32 lbs, C load.

And yes, the KO2s E load, have 3 ply sides, while the C's have 2 ply. Not sure what D has...maybe 1.5 ??? lol
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If you are using a P tire off road, bring a lot of spares.
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Mark, if you haven't already made your decision, I just bought BFG KO2, 285/70/17. They are firmer, and could definitely tell on bad roads. It also corners a little flatter. 18's could be a little firmer I suppose.
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I just got done comparing KO2's back to back, 275/65/16 E vs 265/70/17 C. Same diameter tire, so the main diff was E vs. C.

Went with 17" black wheels and the look was so good. The BS gave the jeep a bit wider stance. 10 lbs less for each wheele/tire. Everything was perfect... until I drove it. I knew instantly, I preferred the KO2/E's I had on prior. The C's had noticeably more friction/noise. Compared the E's that I drove there with, with C's I could hear the tires louder on highway and also had to push the pedal down further and as a result my jeep was way thirstier.

Couldn't wait to get back to the KO2 E's, noticed immediately they had a lot less rolling resistance. Roll smooth, and on that same 20 mile trip, the tires were quieter and.. used less gas. On the ride with C's, the jeep moved/bounced a lot more of the road's imperfections. It "might've" been a bit softer over bumps and stuff but every little change in the road made the jeep bounce and wiggle, even the steering wheel would wiggle a lot. Went back to the E load, the same bumps/changes were more distant, and the jeep seemed to not bounce/jump around as much., I guess I prefer the firmer ride, where little stuff doesn't make the jeep move much. Also steering is easier and more precise it seemed.

This was a surprise, because it's the opposite from what most have said. I did read a few reviews of guys who were used to the older KO E load and they said the new KO2 E load felt softer (too soft for their pickups) from earlier KO they ran religiously. So maybe it's a softer compound or something. But seems to be the right tire for the TJR.

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