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Old 01-09-2018, 10:51 AM
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M/T to A/T advice

Iím looking to replace my pretty worn out Cooper STT Proís with some A/T tires. Iíd be looking for the same size (305/70/16) in an A/T variety. Iím looking for something with the most aggressive look and as inexpensive as possible without being a total POS. If price were not an issue, Iíd most likely be going with KO2ís, but since it is Iím currently looking at the following:

Pro Comp A/T Sport (not many reviews on, anyone running them?)
https://www.4wd.com/p/pro-comp-305-7...13187_textlink

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W
https://www.tirebuyer.com/tires/falk...MDFHP3b9fXjjaA

Iím also wondering what to expect going from M/T to A/T, since Iíve only ever had M/Tís on my Jeeps. Obviously less noise, anything else?

Thanks for any guidance!

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Besides the noise you stated, i'll add Longevity and MPG.

I currently have 42.5k on my KO2's and they look like they can go another 40k. Street tires on different vehicles didn't even last as long as these KO2's.

I got about the same mpg on 35's as opposed to the 32" oem mt.
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Besides the noise you stated, i'll add Longevity and MPG.

I currently have 42.5k on my KO2's and they look like they can go another 40k. Street tires on different vehicles didn't even last as long as these KO2's.

I got about the same mpg on 35's as opposed to the 32" oem mt.
Thank you! I was hoping for added MPG's as well.

It's far from my daily driver, so my initial instinct was "I don't value longevity much". But after more thought I realized that I am hoping to find a set of used tires that will suit my needs, but knowing that I should get more miles out of them I'll be more willing to buy ones that aren't just barely used.
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I see you are in NY. That's a mud state. If you do go mudding, you'll likely find that the AT variety don't work as well in deep or slippery mud and clay soils. They tend to pack between the treads with the stuff more than MT tires do. But you'll also get higher MPG with the ATs as well as longer life and quieter operation. There is a benefit for us in California in regard to AT tires. The MT tire sidewalls tend to be much more flexible, and they can be punctured much easier than many AT tires. The trail systems with sharp rocks and tree roots tend to punish off road tires, and the AT tires seem to hold up better overall. I relied on a test I saw a couple years ago that singled out the Cooper ST Maxx, the Goodrich K02s and the Toyo Open Country versions as the top of the line in terms of toughness and overall quality. Although, as I said, they didn't fare as well in mud as the MT tread patterns did. That was quite expected, however.

Here in Ca, we don't have nearly as much mud as you do. So, mud tires here are of limited benefit, unless you just want your rig to look as gnarly as possible. Tough carcasses and stiff sidewalls for less chance of puncture from sharp rocks are of more use here. Our one exception is the sand. MT tires generally work better in deep sand than AT tires, but it seems width and overall size has more to do with that.
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Thanks for the info. I hate to admit it, but mine is mostly a mall crawler. If I do get off road I try to avoid times when mud will be prevalent and the same in places.
My biggest deterrent to staying on road is that there really are no good places to legally wheel around me.
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Pro Comp A/T Sport (not many reviews on, anyone running them?)
https://www.4wd.com/p/pro-comp-305-7...13187_textlink

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W
https://www.tirebuyer.com/tires/falk...MDFHP3b9fXjjaA
I am looking at these two tires too. Not much info on the Pro Comps. Seems they are fairly new. I like them both and the price is about the same. Not sure which to pull the tigger on.
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Don't go cheap on your tires, they are the ONLY thing keeping you on the road. If you're looking for the best AT that is a MONSTER in the snow, get Duratracs. They do great in the mud too. YouTube is full of snow and mud reviews for them.

I know, price. How much value do you put on your and your family's lives?
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I donít believe Duratracs come in 305/70/R16. I did have them before in a different size and liked them, didnít love them.
As far as I know both of the tires I had linked to were from trusted brands, not some Chinese retread companies. Inexpensive doesnít always mean bad.
Obviously we want something safe, but I donít think anyone here thinks theyíre driving an IIHS Top Pick Plus vehicle.
In any event, I ended up buying a set of Nitto Terra Grapplers that are at about 90%. Theyíre being put on as we speak. Iíll be sure to report back with reviews.
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How many miles did you get out of your STT Pros?
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Why are you moving away from the STT Pro's? How many miles did you get out of them? I'm also interested in hearing something about the Pro Comp A/T.

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Iím looking to replace my pretty worn out Cooper STT Proís with some A/T tires. Iíd be looking for the same size (305/70/16) in an A/T variety. Iím looking for something with the most aggressive look and as inexpensive as possible without being a total POS. If price were not an issue, Iíd most likely be going with KO2ís, but since it is Iím currently looking at the following:

Pro Comp A/T Sport (not many reviews on, anyone running them?)
https://www.4wd.com/p/pro-comp-305-7...13187_textlink

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W
https://www.tirebuyer.com/tires/falk...MDFHP3b9fXjjaA

Iím also wondering what to expect going from M/T to A/T, since Iíve only ever had M/Tís on my Jeeps. Obviously less noise, anything else?

Thanks for any guidance!
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I would spend a bit more and get some ST/Maxx they come in the size you want and are very good tires.
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I was looking to get away from M/T tires mostly for noise and road feel.
I had bought the STT Pro's used and only put a thousand miles or so on them, so I can't comment on that.

I ended up finding a set of lightly used Nitto Grappler Terra's at a good price, $400 for the set which included a set of AR GM truck wheels, which I sold for $50. So far I'm happy with the Nitto's. Far less choppy than the STT's, smooth ride and much quieter than a M/T.
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I've heard good things about the Grappler. Don't have any experience with them. I have with the STT Maxx. It's actually not a mud tire, it's an AT. I liked them just fine, and they scored as highly in the toughness tests as the BFG TA KO2 and the Toyo Open Country AT. Never cut one or punctured. Were excellent in snow and ice, although there may have been an element of size n there somewhere. They were 31s, only 9-1/2 wide.

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