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Old 09-17-2018, 08:11 AM
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Milestar Patagonia M/T

Just put a set of 295/70-17s on 17x9 Black Rhino wheels onto my cousin's Ram 2500. In case you're interested in these for your Jeep: They weighed in a 97 lbs (wheel + tire + weights) each and they roll pretty smooth down the road. They are 33" tall mounted on the vehicle which is equivalent to my 285/75 KO2s. They are VERY quiet...the most quiet mud tire I've ever tested. They don't grab stones and gravel and throw them everywhere which is great. They have 3 ply sidewalls and a nice rim protection flange. Overall they seem like great tires. One of them took 6.5 ounces of weight and the other three took far less.

I'm going to track his mileage and see how they wear on the highway. We'll also do some snow and mud testing this coming winter. The prices on them are excellent and they have plenty of siping for foul weather.

They appear to be a great all around tire.

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I have these in 38x13.50r17. I love them. They are quiet, smooth, and ride like a street tire. In addition to this, they also do well offroad. I would say they are the perfect AT/MT hybrid. My favorite tire I have had to date on a jeep.

I have a set of 40x13.50r17 on order through discount tire currently.

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Just out of curiosity, how tall are the 38s when mounted on your Jeep? Do they sit somewhere around 37" tall?
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Just out of curiosity, how tall are the 38s when mounted on your Jeep? Do they sit somewhere around 37" tall?
They are 37 even under the weight of the jeep. Same as the Nitto 38s.
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Yeah that's about right. Par for the course. They do seem to be really good tires. Can't wait to see how they wear.
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Yeah that's about right. Par for the course. They do seem to be really good tires. Can't wait to see how they wear.
I've had them on since April/May so I'm only at 1,700 miles but so far still look new lol.
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have been running a set of 315's for about a year, have about 9k ish miles on them. Wear so far has been acceptable for a softer compound. For the price point one of the best off road tires I have run.
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I've been running these in a 315/70/17 for about a month and put a little over 1000 miles on them. They are by far the quietest MT I've been around, even quieter than some ATs. I've had no issues on road, dry or wet, and they handled the one wheeling trip I've taken without issue.

The only negative in my experience was the amount of weight required to balance them. Once they were balanced, that is no longer an issue though.

I purchased through Discount Tire Direct. They are $195/tire (35") right now, but can be had for less if you catch them on sale. I'd bet you won't find a better MT for that price.
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I've been running these in a 315/70/17 for about a month and put a little over 1000 miles on them. They are by far the quietest MT I've been around, even quieter than some ATs. I've had no issues on road, dry or wet, and they handled the one wheeling trip I've taken without issue.

The only negative in my experience was the amount of weight required to balance them. Once they were balanced, that is no longer an issue though.

I purchased through Discount Tire Direct. They are $195/tire (35") right now, but can be had for less if you catch them on sale. I'd bet you won't find a better MT for that price.
Did you have 315's or 35's on before the Milestars? Interested in ride quality on the street. My Coopers are really firm and I don't want to be in that boat again.

I can get a crazy deal on the Black Bear MT's or AT's, but these at $100 more for 5 might be worth spending just a few extra bucks if they are that quiet and ride nice.
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Did you have 315's or 35's on before the Milestars? Interested in ride quality on the street. My Coopers are really firm and I don't want to be in that boat again.

I can get a crazy deal on the Black Bear MT's or AT's, but these at $100 more for 5 might be worth spending just a few extra bucks if they are that quiet and ride nice.
I had 33's before the Milestar's. 275/60/20 Nitto Terra Grappler G2's to be exact. The Milestars ride slightly better, but that's probably due to the higher sidewall profile for the most part. I drive mostly highway/interstate (1000+ mile a month) and I've got no complaints. They are still a mud tire, but the are very well behaved on pavement. These are D rated, while many tires in this size are E. That helps some too.
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I have these in 38x13.50r17. I love them. They are quiet, smooth, and ride like a street tire. In addition to this, they also do well offroad. I would say they are the perfect AT/MT hybrid. My favorite tire I have had to date on a jeep.

I have a set of 40x13.50r17 on order through discount tire currently.
I've been looking for the 38x13.50-17 but it seems to be unavailable at this time. I still have about 8/32s on M Toro RT so have some time.

How do they hold up to the rocks?
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I have these in 38x13.50r17. I love them. They are quiet, smooth, and ride like a street tire. In addition to this, they also do well offroad. I would say they are the perfect AT/MT hybrid. My favorite tire I have had to date on a jeep.

I have a set of 40x13.50r17 on order through discount tire currently.
I've been looking for the 38x13.50-17 but it seems to be unavailable at this time. I still have about 8/32s on M Toro RT so have some time.

How do they hold up to the rocks?
Availability is the one downfall of this tire. They come sporadically in big crates from Indonesia. I've been waiting over a month for the 40s with not ETA.

Northridge 4x4 tends to get them more often than anyone else so you may want to check them out.

As for rocks, I am uncertain. I live in Illinois so my offroading is limited to mud, snow, and trails.

I see @Rancho runs them on their vehicles and they do a lot of rocks.
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Hey guys, I just received my 38s a few weeks ago. Sitting in my garage until i get my wheels. Im stuck trying to find a non-beadlock wheel with enough backspacing for these. Im trying not to use spacers though it looks like thats what Im gonna have to use. Dirty Life dt-1 have 3.5 backspace but arent available. Birdogs are nowwhere to be found. Im not sure if the Sota DRT or SSD are wide enough (8.5 inch) to run these tires. Anyways....To those having trouble finding these, I got mine from tires-easy.com. Around 350$ each and the shipping was free. At my house in a few days. Carlton Banks, whats the total backspacing you are using for yours? Any rubbing? Thanks
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Oh and I see Simpletire sells them as well, not sure about size availabilty or if shipping is free.
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Oh and I see Simpletire sells them as well, not sure about size availabilty or if shipping is free.


Discount Tire Direct will match anyone’s price and they may be able to give a forum discount on top of that.
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Hey guys, I just received my 38s a few weeks ago. Sitting in my garage until i get my wheels. Im stuck trying to find a non-beadlock wheel with enough backspacing for these. Im trying not to use spacers though it looks like thats what Im gonna have to use. Dirty Life dt-1 have 3.5 backspace but arent available. Birdogs are nowwhere to be found. Im not sure if the Sota DRT or SSD are wide enough (8.5 inch) to run these tires. Anyways....To those having trouble finding these, I got mine from tires-easy.com. Around 350$ each and the shipping was free. At my house in a few days. Carlton Banks, whats the total backspacing you are using for yours? Any rubbing? Thanks
The dirty life is a nice looking wheel but extremely heavy at approximately 50 pounds.

They can be mounted on an 8.5 inch wide wheel. That's what I currently have.

I am running 3.0 backspacing. I added wheel spacers to attain that number. I have 4 inch lift and flat fenders. No rubbing for me while turning or offroading. I don't do rock crawling so it may rub for someone that needs extreme flex.
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Yes sir i saw the DL wheels were heavy. The sota wheels were my 1st choice but sold out everywhere until who knows when. I ended up buying a set of wheels that have 4.5 backspacing and a set of spidertrax, so glad to hear you have no rubbing with your set up. Should all be here in a week. I also have 4 inch lift (metal cloak 3.5) and am taking off my stock fenders for the mopar high tops. I couldnt ever find a metal fender i liked and fell in love with those. I usually wheel a few times a year anywhere near the smokey mountains, but only because i have to drive from the mississippi gulf coast. Thanks for your response Carlton. I’ll try and post some pics once everything is done.
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Yes sir i saw the DL wheels were heavy. The sota wheels were my 1st choice but sold out everywhere until who knows when. I ended up buying a set of wheels that have 4.5 backspacing and a set of spidertrax, so glad to hear you have no rubbing with your set up. Should all be here in a week. I also have 4 inch lift (metal cloak 3.5) and am taking off my stock fenders for the mopar high tops. I couldnt ever find a metal fender i liked and fell in love with those. I usually wheel a few times a year anywhere near the smokey mountains, but only because i have to drive from the mississippi gulf coast. Thanks for your response Carlton. I’ll try and post some pics once everything is done.
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The rubber compound is pretty soft. You can squish the tread blocks with your fingers. These should work good for slickrock out west and will probably provide excellent highway traction as well, but I'll be surprised if they hold up for 50,000 miles. I expect them to wear down pretty fast. I guess that's the trade off you make for excellent traction.
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The rubber compound is pretty soft. You can squish the tread blocks with your fingers. These should work good for slickrock out west and will probably provide excellent highway traction as well, but I'll be surprised if they hold up for 50,000 miles. I expect them to wear down pretty fast. I guess that's the trade off you make for excellent traction.


I’m not super concerned about tread lift though. For the price I can buy 2 sets for the price of 1 set of big name tires.
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The rubber compound is pretty soft. You can squish the tread blocks with your fingers. These should work good for slickrock out west and will probably provide excellent highway traction as well, but I'll be surprised if they hold up for 50,000 miles. I expect them to wear down pretty fast. I guess that's the trade off you make for excellent traction.
If you want some good examples of what these tires are capable of check out “Lite Brite”’s Trail videos on YouTube. Pretty impressive.
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If you want some good examples of what these tires are capable of check out “Lite Brite”’s Trail videos on YouTube. Pretty impressive.


I’m pretty sure Rancho is using these on their new JL test mules too.

I saw another company running these on their Jeeps recently too, maybe it was Northridge4x4?

They are definitely gaining popularity.
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Watched the Lite Brite videos some today. Did the Rubicon with those 38s. I cant believe he didnt blow a bead a few of those times.
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Ok so I spent the morning putting my Mopar fenders on, then had the Milestars mounted. 3.5 inch metal cloak gamechanger with 38s. I wasnt sure if I would need a body lift or add an inch to the lift, but I think it will be fine for now. Next week regear and UD44 up front. Some before and afters pics with my 35s, then fenders, then 38s.
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Ok so I spent the morning putting my Mopar fenders on, then had the Milestars mounted. 3.5 inch metal cloak gamechanger with 38s. I wasnt sure if I would need a body lift or add an inch to the lift, but I think it will be fine for now. Next week regear and UD44 up front. Some before and afters pics with my 35s, then fenders, then 38s.
Looking good!

You'll be happy with the tires. I put mine to work again this weekend and they performed flawlessly.
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Just got some Milestar 37's last week. Took them out and was very impressed, mud, slick wet rock, they did amazing. Honestly they are super quiet on the hwy and did just amazing off-road. I've ran both 35" Nitto Trail and EXO in the past for reference, I am VERY happy with these so far.



Note to those going to 37's, you will need to trim the rear seams as they will rub in the rear at full flex. Even with proper bump-stops. Thanks to the guys at Northridge for helping me figure that one out yesterday. Ref:RockKrawler 3.5" with bushwacker flat fenders. 2015 jk
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Can you guys that have the 38 x 13.5 do a "REAL" height measurement ?

I currently have the 37 x 12.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers
Off the jeep mounted on my XD231 beadlocks measure 36.5"
Mounted on the Jeep at 30 psi measure 35.5"
Too me they look small plus a few weeks ago at AOP 2018 the Ridge Grapplers did not impress in the Rocks. Will say I was only aired down to 15psi and should have went down to 8psi but irregardless not impressed.

So Im in the debate between another set of 37s or 40's.. I want 40s but dont want to spend another round of loot to upgrade my stuff again... Have 4.88 gears and they fit the 37's nicely with no regrets ...

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