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Old 05-10-2017, 09:13 AM   #301
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Yeah I remember you talking about that. I'm hoping mine is more competent. They did it right when I had my Duratracs put on but that was 5 years ago.

Any input on the usability/etc. offroad of either pattern like I was talking about above? Still hoping they show up in time to go on this weekend
I can't really imagine that it would make a huge difference... Plus that side will still be on the inside. These are tough tires to begin with.

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Suggestions needed! I have read through this ENTIRE thread. Twice!

My 2001 TJ with no lift (that I am aware of) currently has a set of JK Sahara 18" wheels with Bridgestone Dueler AT RH-S P255/70R18s on it. The Duelers are 31.25" tall and 10.25" wide (rim is 7.5" wide). I can currently truck along at 80mph and would like to keep it that way. I don't want to lift it right now. My TJ is my DD but will hit some pretty rocky offroading frequently.

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Size_________Diameter___Width___Approved Rim Width___Weight (specs from Nitto's website)
LT285/70R17 C___32.76______11.50______7.5-(8.5)-9.0___________57.89 lbs.
LT285/75R17 C___33.86______11.26______7.5-(8.0)-9.5___________65.08 lbs.

I am going to mount them on Pro Comp Rock Crawler Series 98 Wheels that come in 17x8" and 17x9".

1) Any opinions on one tire over the other?

2) Any opinions on one rim width over the other?


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Thanks! 2nd week of ownership and still getting up to speed!
You will definitely have trouble with the 285/75-17... That tire measures almost like a 35" tire.

The 285/70-17 is basically a 33" tire. I would hop on over to the TJ section and either search or ask what you need to do to fit a 33" tire on a stock TJ. They will know and guide you.

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You will definitely have trouble with the 285/75-17... That tire measures almost like a 35" tire.

The 285/70-17 is basically a 33" tire. I would hop on over to the TJ section and either search or ask what you need to do to fit a 33" tire on a stock TJ. They will know and guide you.
Thank you for the reply Pressurized. I appreciate it.

Any thoughts on the 8" wide rim vs. the 9" wide rim question? This is my first offroad vehicle so tire selection always used to be "the rims are X-inches wide so I'll get tires of the same width. This is new territory.

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Thank you for the reply Pressurized. I appreciate it.

Any thoughts on the 8" wide rim vs. the 9" wide rim question? This is my first offroad vehicle so tire selection always used to be "the rims are X-inches wide so I'll get tires of the same width. This is new territory.
For offroad purposes the narrower rim might be a better choice. It's supposed to help keep the bead on the wheel when you air down. Of course it will weight less as well potentially which has other benefits.
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For offroad purposes the narrower rim might be a better choice. It's supposed to help keep the bead on the wheel when you air down. Of course it will weight less as well potentially which has other benefits.
THANK YOU! That is the kind of insight I needed. Much appreciated.

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How's about some more pics of these mounted?
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Called my local America's Tire (CA name for DT) this morning and ordered 5 of the load C 285/75r17's. They said up to 5 business days because they're coming from Nitto. I'm hoping they'll be in by Friday afternoon so I can have them put on Saturday. I'll get plenty of pics when the time comes. They'll be going on the gunmetal gray Quadratec Hardrock wheels.
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Well, just got the call. They're in! Not going to be able to get over to have them put on until Saturday morning though I don't think. Will have pictures after that.
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Thanks. It's going to be a loooooong day and a half
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Just installed my 37's, getting too old for this stuff but still going forward. 4 out of the 5 took considerable weight to balance. I'll post a review once I get some miles on them but the first thing to do is bring this Jeep into the shop next week and get some 4.88 gears installed so I can turn these guys (big step up from 315/70r17 Duratracs). Luckily, I'm getting the front axle sleeved and gusseted at the same time. Here's a couple of pics in the mean-time. Brake upgrade next on the list.
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Just got my 285/75r17 load C on this morning on Quadratec hard rock wheels.








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Just got my 285/75r17 load C on this morning on Quadratec hard rock wheels.








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Thanks I think it looks good. Bigger but not so big I need to cut the pinch seam I think. Still have a solid 1 1/8-1/4 inches of clearance on the ground


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Anyone else with this size or any suggestions what PSI are you running? I had them put them at 35 to start. Was running 32-33 on my load C 265/70r17 duratracs before this


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After EXTENSIVE online shopping I ordered mine today for my 2001 TJ. I decided on 4-Wheel Parts based on price for the tires and wheels, shipping cost and speed, extra fees, and mount/balance cost.

Nitto LT285/70R17 116C Tire, Ridge Grappler - Part #NIT217-010 - $277.99 x 5 = $1,320.45

Pro Comp Series 98 Rock Crawler - Part #PCW98-7866 - $78.19 x 5 = $390.95

+ FREE MOUNT & BALANCE x 5
+ Delivery to local store
+ Free install at local store (not that I couldn't do that myself)

Subtotal: $1,711.40
Sales Tax (Arizona): $125.79
Tire Tax: $10.00
-15% COUPON CODE DISCOUNT
Total: $1,847.19


I'll post pictures and stuff once they arrive and get mounted.

Edit to add: I shopped and compared detailed pricing at: Ebay, 4-Wheel Parts, Amazon, 4WD Hardware, and Extreme Terrain.
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Do the sidewalls flex at normal highway PSI for a good around town ride?
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what lift do you have? Im looking at 3" with these same tires..
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Hey @ESP just tagging you in case you missed it since you asked for pics

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Looks great, hope they work well for you.
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Looks great, hope they work well for you.
Going to test them out a little bit this weekend on a group wheeling trip. Mild stuff but a decent first test.
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So, impressions after a week. Not sure if it's the size difference or just that Duratracs are really soft, but comparing these in load C 285/75 to my old load C 265/70 Duratracs these are definitely a stiffer ride, though I'm still working on the PSI. Even aired down to 20 (nothing too serious today to go lower to like 15) and disconnected it was still noticeably stiffer, but they also absorb things that would be more jarring easier. Probably attributed to the large size difference. They performed excellent though in water, dirt, and loose rock/dirt. Didn't get them on any hard rock like granite today or mud. Maybe another trip.

edit: Noise, well, they're quieter than my worn duratracs around town. I definitely noticed them on the road today but a lot of the surfaces were more worn asphalt or maybe just the way it was paved. I don't notice the same thing at up to freeway speeds around where I live, but it's definitely possible to get some hum out of these on various surfaces.
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I really like these tires and I am almost ready to pull the trigger. I am still not sure if I should go with the LT295/70R18 or the 35/12.5R18LT. I don't know if the .5" of height , .75" of width, and additional 5lbs of the 35/12.5R18LT makes a difference or not. Anyone have an option either way?
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I really like these tires and I am almost ready to pull the trigger. I am still not sure if I should go with the LT295/70R18 or the 35/12.5R18LT. I don't know if the .5" of height , .75" of width, and additional 5lbs of the 35/12.5R18LT makes a difference or not. Anyone have an option either way?
Those 35x12.5/18 are F Load. Certainly something to consider as the 295x70/18 are E Load.
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Those 35x12.5/18 are F Load. Certainly something to consider as the 295x70/18 are E Load.
Is the difference the number of plys in the sidewall? Obviously they are pretty close to one another so would a higher rating be better?
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I really like these tires and I am almost ready to pull the trigger. I am still not sure if I should go with the LT295/70R18 or the 35/12.5R18LT. I don't know if the .5" of height , .75" of width, and additional 5lbs of the 35/12.5R18LT makes a difference or not. Anyone have an option either way?
I cant help you with that decision but I can add that I'm having a similar dilemma. I can seem to decide between the 305/70r17 and the 35x12.5x17. The 305 is 3/4" diameter and 1/4" width less then the 35, and about $25 less.

Maybe someone can chime in and help us both decide.
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So I know I just gave them a "glowing review" but I think I'm returning them. They're just so much stiffer of a ride than I was expecting. I'm probably stepping down a size to 285/70's and going with P rated Falkens since my driving is mostly on road with maybe 1 wheeling trip a month in good weather and hardly ever anything in rocks. I'm guessing the P rated Falkens are going to handle what rocks I do just as well as the C rated duratracs I had before.
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So I know I just gave them a "glowing review" but I think I'm returning them. They're just so much stiffer of a ride than I was expecting. I'm probably stepping down a size to 285/70's and going with P rated Falkens since my driving is mostly on road with maybe 1 wheeling trip a month in good weather and hardly ever anything in rocks. I'm guessing the P rated Falkens are going to handle what rocks I do just as well as the C rated duratracs I had before.


Well scratch that idea already. Because it's a custom order size can only return to America's tire for store credit which is like a $500 difference. Not really sure I'd ever use that anytime soon. So going to keep playing with PSI and was eventually putting the adjustable rancho shocks on when my OME/ARB ONES are done. Maybe I can find the right ride balance.


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I picked these up yesterday to go on with the lift and Teraflex tire carrier later this week. I have a couple of questions for those running this tire in a 35x12.5x17.

1. What psi are you running them? 30-35?
2. What diameter are you putting in the programmer (FlashCal, etc.) to get the speedometer dialed in?

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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I agree with flyinon. I too was riding on duratracs (315/70r17) prior to putting on the 37" RGs and they were not nearly as stiff. I guess there's a big difference in ride quality when you go from a 2 ply sidewall to a 3. I haven't had a chance to experiment too much with air pressure yet, but I'm currently trying 24.5 psi cold. This puts the actual tire height at 35.75.
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I agree with flyinon. I too was riding on duratracs (315/70r17) prior to putting on the 37" RGs and they were not nearly as stiff. I guess there's a big difference in ride quality when you go from a 2 ply sidewall to a 3. I haven't had a chance to experiment too much with air pressure yet, but I'm currently trying 24.5 psi cold. This puts the actual tire height at 35.75.
To be totally fair, while yes I've been noticing the stiffness and had been thinking something more compliant would be nice. What really put me over the edge into looking into actually swapping them out was taking it in for an alignment (been 4 years, old tires were ~2/32's extra worn on the outside on all 5) and finding out my stock ball joints and drag link joints are already shot at 45K.

The $$ difference between the two tires sets would have been a big chunk of money for that work. Either covering most/all of the parts and me doing it myself or about 1/2 the quote for a shop to do it all. Now I'm going to have to wait a month or so to make sure $$$ is stable before I can do the repairs.

edit: I did briefly debate swapping them anyway and using some of the store credit to buy the replacement certs, but I decided the potentially small comfort increase wasn't going to be worth having 300+ sitting in store credit that may not be used for years and what happens if the store closes, changes management, etc. Who knows, once I fix the suspension issues maybe the ride will improve a bit as well?
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Funny how one mod turns into 5. I dropped mine off at the shop last week for 4.88s, Yeti tie rod, Yeti drag link with XD attenuator, Synergy axle assurance kit and new ball joints. Movin' on up isn't cheap, haha.
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Funny how one mod turns into 5. I dropped mine off at the shop last week for 4.88s, Yeti tie rod, Yeti drag link with XD attenuator, Synergy axle assurance kit and new ball joints. Movin' on up isn't cheap, haha.
Yeah, the only real upgrade in my repair estimates though were Napa Premium joints and drag link which carry a lifetime warranty vs. the stock junk which actually is a few $$$ more than the Napa stuff.

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