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Old 11-05-2018, 09:30 AM
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Stock rubicon tire recommendations?

Need new tires x5 for my new to me 2014 rubicon X. Not looking to go bigger than original. I want the off-road traction and also Midwest snow and ice roads with less noise if possible. Cheapest right now is the BFG KM just like it came with but I like the looks of the Yokohama geolander. Anything else I should consider?
It's been 30 years since I had a Goodyear tire I didn't hate. I've had good history with Michelin passenger car tires and Firestone truck tires. Gonna need something very soon, winter is coming.
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I have a 2018 willys and I am going with the 255/80r17 Nitto ridge Grapplers most likely. Same width as stock but about 1.75-2 inches taller.
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I have a 2018 willys and I am going with the 255/80r17 Nitto ridge Grapplers most likely. Same width as stock but about 1.75-2 inches taller.
Thanks. Is that with stock suspension or lift?
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Mine has 2 inch Mopar lift but I believe that tire will work without a lift but I could be wrong.
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The Hankook Dynapro ATM’s provide excellent longevity and traction. I’ve run them through Wisconsin winters without issue before I started running true snow tires. They may not be the sexiest tire but they are a proven performer.

Another option would be to check CL for a set of snow tires, run them through winter then buy new AT in Spring.
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OK, you won't want to get Duratracs from the hated GY. How about Falken Wildpeak AT3W, in 235-80-17, which is .8" narrower (good for snow) and only .26" shorter than stock. Something like the Bridgestone Blizzak is slanted heavily to winter use, not so much for trails or longevity.
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The AT3W is now being made in 255/80R17 as well. You could also get it in 265/70R17.
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Thanks. Who says y'all won't help a newby? Appreciate the opinions.
Considering the BFG KO2. Some of the tire site reviews are terrible but other sites and some folks here seem to like them.
I'm only willing to go slightly taller and not any wider. Will be sticking with stock wheels.
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Thanks. Who says y'all won't help a newby? Appreciate the opinions.
Considering the BFG KO2. Some of the tire site reviews are terrible but other sites and some folks here seem to like them.
I'm only willing to go slightly taller and not any wider. Will be sticking with stock wheels.
Take a look at the Kumho AT51. It is a top performer in ice/snow. You can check the reviews...

They also have a rare 275/70-17 size which is 3/4" wider than stock and only 1/4" taller making it an easy/perfect no worry fit.

http://kumhotireusa.com/tire-categor...venture%20at51
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If you are not going to be mud bogging, get the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W. Best tire on the market.

If you are going to be in the mud, try the Goodyear Duratrac or the Cooper Discoverer STT Pro. Both are good on and off road for snow and mud.
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If you are not going to be mud bogging, get the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W. Best tire on the market.
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Looks good and reviews are great. Not seeing them in the stock size yet but still looking.
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I don't think the Falken is available in stock size. That is why I mentioned 235-80-17 E rated.
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I don't think the Falken is available in stock size. That is why I mentioned 235-80-17 E rated.
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I just had my local Discount order me 5 of the Falkens so they will have them for the Friday-Saturday after Thanksgiving, when the Black Friday deal will be in effect. I will also get a DT credit card to save that $50. They should be a lot better in the snow than my KM's and if they don't do all I want on rocky trails, I will still have the KM's on another set of wheels.
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If you are not going to be mud bogging, get the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W. Best tire on the market.

If you are going to be in the mud, try the Goodyear Duratrac or the Cooper Discoverer STT Pro. Both are good on and off road for snow and mud.
The Falkens are good, but fall behind a tire like the Kumho in ice and snow.
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The Falkens are good, but fall behind a tire like the Kumho in ice and snow.
I'm not sure there's enough evidence to show the Kumho is necessarily superior to the Falken in winter conditions. Both the Road Venture AT51 and Wildpeak A/T3W have achieved the 3-peak mountain snowflake for severe snow conditions.

The A/T3W is currently available in 265/70R17, which will fit on a stock JK with the factory wheels.

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An optimized tread design combined with a silica tread compound enable the A/T3W to excel in three areas: wear, winter, and wet performance. Designed for severe snow conditions, every A/T3W tire is qualified by the Rubber Manufacturers Association for the Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake (3PMSF) symbol. The A/T3W is packed with technology, from Falkenís patented 3D Canyon Sipes to an all-new proprietary lower sidewall. Full-depth sipes and grooves maintain consistent performance and appearance throughout the life of the tire.
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Yes I'd go for 265/70-17 if you're waiting on the 255/75-17 to be available. The 265/70 is practically identical in the real world.
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265-70-17 is .39" wider and .46" shorter than stock size, according to the Discount Tire comparison calculator.
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I'm not sure there's enough evidence to show the Kumho is necessarily superior to the Falken in winter conditions. Both the Road Venture AT51 and Wildpeak A/T3W have achieved the 3-peak mountain snowflake for severe snow conditions.

The A/T3W is currently available in 265/70R17, which will fit on a stock JK with the factory wheels.

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I'm not saying they are bad... But I have a unique (although disconnected) experience in this actual comparison. A customer of mine lives in Flagstaff and last year put on Kumho AT51's on his Ford F150 replacing Duratracs and Falken AT3W's on his Jeep, replacing KM2's. He likes them both, but says the Kumho is better in the snow. The Falken's are similar in performance to the Duratrac's which were the gold standard. That means they are very good. We talk Jeeps, tires, etc all the time...

Won't be a bad choice with any of those tires...
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Check out the new Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S in the stock size too.
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I'm not saying they are bad... But I have a unique (although disconnected) experience in this actual comparison. A customer of mine lives in Flagstaff and last year put on Kumho AT51's on his Ford F150 replacing Duratracs and Falken AT3W's on his Jeep, replacing KM2's. He likes them both, but says the Kumho is better in the snow. The Falken's are similar in performance to the Duratrac's which were the gold standard. That means they are very good. We talk Jeeps, tires, etc all the time...

Won't be a bad choice with any of those tires...
I appreciate all real-world experience with tires I’m interested in but have never tried, especially direct comparisons. Thanks for sharing that.
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I appreciate all real-world experience with tires Iím interested in but have never tried, especially direct comparisons. Thanks for sharing that.
You bet, but I also want to clarify... He has said that overall he likes the Falken a little better. Just for snow he prefers the Kumho. So when the OP emphasized snow and ice, I responded as such.

My hobby shop does a lot of tires and I get to drive on, see how they all balance etc, many different tires. Our favorite by far is the Nitto Ridge Grappler, but I wouldn't rate them as high for use in bad weather...

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Thanks for all the guidance. This whole tire business is complex.
Stock wheels, no lift and would rather not have to, but if I did I could add body bushings for 1-1.5". I'm probably twice the age of most of you guys and I still have to be able to get in it!
My search is narrowing down to BFG KO2s in stock 255/75r17 or the Falken wildpeak at3w in 255/80r17 which is a 33" tall E range tire. I think they also have a 265/75r17 but it appears to be a C range?
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My mistake, it is a 275/70r17 that is a C range. Right size but looks out of place in the falken lineup.
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The 255/80's are a great option!

The Toyo A/TII is also a fantastic tire in 255/80-17. I would run the Mastercraft Courser CXT made by Cooper, but it's more of a hybrid than the other 2 and I don't ever get snow...
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The 255/80's are a great option!..
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