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Old 11-26-2017, 09:22 AM
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Hi all! New to the forum and new to Jeeps. Recently bought my first Jeep, a 2017 Wrangler Unlimited Sport. I live in the Northeast (upstate NY) and do have some rough winters at times. I have a few basic questions on wheels and tires, specifically regarding winter snow and ice.

I need to get to work no matter what the weather. Not arriving is not an option. I have always been able to make it in with my front wheel drive cars with a good set of snow tires on the front. Now I only have the Jeep with the stock tires (P225/75R16 BSW On/Off-Road Tires) on 16x7 rims. Where I live it is hilly and sometimes the town is slow to completely clean the roads but most of my commute is highway. Will the stock set-up get it done? I assume this is the case but wanted your feedback.

Also, my driveway is almost 1/4 mile long and in parts steep. Sometimes during a snow storm I might not come home for a couple of days and am greeted with over a 2 foot snow bank made by the plow at the end of my driveway and over a foot of snow in the driveway. Will the stock set-up get my over the bank and up the driveway? With my previous car it was a definite "No" but I bought a Jeep and don't want to fear the snow but look forward to it! It would be nice to get the Jeep into the garage before I have to worry about clearing the driveway. In the past sometimes I would have to leave my car in a neighbor's driveway while I trekked the nearly quarter mile uphill to get the blower out and clear a space for my car at the end, then go get the car, put it at the end of the driveway, and when the driveway was finally clear walk back one more time to get the car to drive it in to the garage.

So what do you think? Everyone I know with a Jeep has been telling me I'll be fine with the stock set-up so I am tempted to leave it as-is for this first winter and see how it goes.

Notwithstanding what I wrote above I think some taller tires would look better and be better in the snow. Nothing extreme just going from the 29" I have to the 32" that the Sahara or Rubicon has. Is it just a matter of getting these bigger rims and tires and just putting them on? That is, the mounting points at the hub are the same without any modification needed?

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Old 11-29-2017, 02:21 AM   #2
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"to the 32" that the Sahara or Rubicon has"

The stock 17s are 255/75(32x10).
The stock 17rim is 17x7.5 with a 6.25 backspacing.

The above combo will fit, as expected, as a stock Jeep

Ttake offs of a Sahara or Rubi. The tires will be a similar class for the Sahara but IIRC Mud Terrains (M/Ts) for the Rubi. I hear that MTs are good to ok in deep snow, but with them stock on my Willys, they sucked for the 4-7" snows that we got. I went out and got the 285 Duratracs.

When I first started I went with 285/70 (32.7x11.2) as an upgrade. They fit the stock rim just fine but I had slight suspension rubbing. So I went with some 1.5" adapters. Now I had rubbing on the outer fender lip when flexing pretty good because they did not tuck in the fender because of the 1.2" wider tire.

Learn a lesson from me. Before spending any money on "what you think" you are wanting as a end result of your Jeep, be honest and ask yourself if you will ever want to go to 35s. I spent $160 on adapters and $1700 on the 285 setup and wound up with 2.5" lift / 35s /4.5bs rims/ regear deal. The adapters and 285 $1860 is a pretty much what a regear will cost. Lucky the rims were able to be reused with the 35s.

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Old 01-07-2018, 01:33 PM
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Well I have driven in a some snow conditions so far. Nothing too serious. Mostly dry snow, very cold, up to 6" depth. We have barely got above freezing this winter and it often stays below zero so I haven't really experienced the wet snow yet. The jeep is performing like a champ. As an experiment with the first couple of storms I didn't even clear my driveway so the area under the tire tracks turned to ice which I still have and no issues. In fact it is doing pretty well even in RWD. If I put it into 4H then it is like driving a car on dry pavement. Remember too that my driveway is very long, narrow (so my choice of path is limited-just enough cleared for my track width), and steep (12% OA with sections probably double that). Went right through road plow made snow banks over a foot high to get into the driveway. No problems on the roads and highway while I saw other cars with wheels spinning stuck in place.

So as you can see I am happy with my vehicle but I still think I want to go to 32" tires just because it will look better. The rear especially has just too much wheel well showing. My plan then is get some new 17" rims and put 32" tires on them while still keeping the 16" rims. My dilemma now is for next year do I put the duratracks on the 16" or 17" rims? Probably should put them on the 16" since those will only be on for 4 months or so and then I can run the 17/32" for 8 months but at the same time maybe I can wait to pull those tires off of the 16" since they will still be fairly new so maybe the better option is to just get some 17" rims and put snows on them.

Hmmm. Decisions, decisions. LOL
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My 2016 Sport came new with the 'mid range' tire option for the Sport (245/75-16 Bridgestone A/T Revo tires on black 16x7 steel wheels). Tread wise, they were pretty well street tires.

I sold the Bridgstones after about 200 miles and put on a set of 245/75-16 Duratracs. I drove with them all last winter and they performed pretty well. But, we didn't have a lot of snow last winter to really test them out.

Last month, I came across a set of minty 17 inch Rubicon take-offs on a local buy and sell for $300 bucks, so I jumped at them and installed them with a set of new 285/70-17 Duratracs. At 35 PSI, these tires stand 32.25 inches tall. (That's 2.25 inches more than my 245/75-16 Duratracs).

But like last year, we haven't had much snow so I can't comment on how much they've helped. But snow or not, they really do look good

I live in the country as well. I only have a 300 foot driveway, but it can get drifted in pretty bad if we get a good blizzard. The drifts get up to 4 feet near my garage and there's no way I can get through those. I have a 4X4 F-150 and I've had to get the snow blower out the odd time to free it.

Two feet of snow might be drivable with the Jeep if the snow is soft and fluffy. But, if it's hard, then you can get easily hung up with all four wheels spinning.

If getting through the snow is critical, one thing you might do is install posts in concrete spaced along the side of the driveway. Then you could install a winch and use the posts as winch points so you could pull yourself out if you really got bogged down. (I've actually thought of doing this).

If you have trees along the driveway then you won't need the posts.
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I went from stock sport SRAs to Rubi KM Take offs. So far, I find them better in all snow. May not be good, but better than stock SRAs and I feel safer. The SRAs would slip and slide even in rain!
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The day I brought my Sport home I put a set of takeoff KO2's on. Bolted them right on and took off, nothing required. The drive home from my dealer was about 90 miles but I think the KO2's are quieter then stick which surprised me.
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Duratracs are on sale right now with $100 in rebates if you buy at least 4. My local Goodyear dealer told me that is below his cost. I'm ordering mine tomorrow.

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