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Old 02-14-2019, 09:20 AM
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Walmart refuses to install 265/75/16 123 on JKU???

So I have the 225/75/16 stock tires and I want to upgrade to 265/75/16 with an E rating.

I called to ask if they would flash the speedometer to reflect the new tire size. The woman at the counter seem to think I was asking her to roll back the mileage. So I asked for the manager.

He said they are not allowed to put anything on my Jeep JK other than 225/75s and 245/75s and nothing with a load rating of E.

He said it would exceed the "Safety factor". I asked what that was, he said that speed rating vs the load rating.

They would not put any Light Truck tire on a Jeep because if I got a blow out at 60 MPH the tire would explode.

so........

Yes, I know I shouldn't have bothered calling walmart.

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People still shop at Walmart?
Has anybody heard of this before?

I got on BG Goodrich's website and looked up KO2 by vehicle and some of the options (depending on which Wrangler JK you have) offers LT tires.

The Manager at Walmart said the reason I could find other tire shops in town was because they were not a multi-billion dollar company for lawyers to go after if I had a blow out.

Just to by something other than 225/75/16s or 245/75/16s (what his computer said were for my JKU). I had to sign a waiver, and under no circumstances would they install LT tires on a Jeep JK.

Apparently BG Goodrich hasn't gotten the memo..
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It's a legal issue.. Costco won't install tires that are outside the factory installed tire specs either.

You think they'd get around it by having the customer sign a release for anything you wanted to insall.. But they don't.
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Yeah don't expect much from a TLE.
They have policies in place to keep the stupids from trying to blow themselves up.
And they don't have any way to flash any vehicle to correct a speedometer.


Your best bet would be to just bring the rims in to have tires mounted.
Deal with the rest of it on your own.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:13 AM
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Yeah don't expect much from a TLE.
They have policies in place to keep the stupids from trying to blow themselves up.
And they don't have any way to flash any vehicle to correct a speedometer.


Your best bet would be to just bring the rims in to have tires mounted.
Deal with the rest of it on your own.
I guess my larger question is, is this really a safety issue?

I have never done more than 70 MPH and generally keep it at 60 MPH on the highway.

I guess what I don't understand is how putting LT tires on a jeep is any different that putting LT tires on an F150 wtih an empty payload?

the manager acted as if I was asking him strap a bomb on the jeep.


Is anybody else here riding on 4 "bombs" under their jeep jks?
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Yep, you can blame the lawyers for this.
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UPDATE :

Transcript from my conversation with BF Goodrich about this. (note, a JKU Freedom model was as close as I could find to what I wanted, but it met the load rating issue. (see below)

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Question about tires

05:44pm

Agent - Catrina
Hello, thank you for your interest in Michelin tires! I will be happy to assist you with that information.

05:44pm

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I see you are recommending 245/75R17 KO2s for my Jeep Wrangler JK.

05:45pm

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If that is what is on the page when you search your vehicle year, make and model, then yes. What is the vehicle year?

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2018 Jeep JKU Freedom

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I am showing the All-Terrain T/A KO2 as a recommended option.

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Are these considered LT / Light Truck tires?

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Yes, they are LT tire. If you notice on the website, there is a new recommended PSI when you install these tires.

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Ok, So Walmart tells me they are not allowed to installed Light Truck tires on a Jeep because of speed/safety rating. Please advise.

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I am not aware of the policy at Walmart. Plenty of Jeeps have KO2 or KM3 tires, You may need to find another dealer for the install.

05:49pm

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You may locate more dealers at https://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/deal...r-locator.page

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Ok, thanks.
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Its WalMart's policy, not BFG or Michelin or GoodYear.
I take it this is your 1st non-car vehicle, welcome to the other side.
Go to an actual tire store to bend the rules a bit.
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Its WalMart's policy, not BFG or Michelin or GoodYear.
I take it this is your 1st non-car vehicle, welcome to the other side.
Go to an actual tire store to bend the rules a bit.
My first 4WD. I've owned trucks before but never cared about the tires much.

At lunch I went to Midas, NTB, and AutoTire, just to ask and explain.

They all thought the question was nuts and Walmart had the Housewares manager working in the Auto department today.
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My first 4WD. I've owned trucks before but never cared about the tires much.

At lunch I went to Midas, NTB, and AutoTire, just to ask and explain.

They all thought the question was nuts and Walmart had the Housewares manager working in the Auto department today.
No Offense but that kinda is your own fault for contemplating using Walmart to mount/install tires on your Jeep. I'll buy TP and an occasional razor from them perhaps but wouldn't dream of letting them touch my rig for any reason.
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No Offense but that kinda is your own fault for contemplating using Walmart to mount/install tires on your Jeep. I'll buy TP and an occasional razor from them perhaps but wouldn't dream of letting them touch my rig for any reason.
fair enough. I did say in the original post it was a mistake. I would think mounting tires isn't exactly asking them to mill a new driveshaft or something.
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A friend of mine worked at Walmart changing oil and mounting tires. It is Walmart policy to only mount what tires came on the vehicle from the factory. The reason being is so many people have tried to mount aftermarket tires that are too big then they dont fit and blame walmart and want a refund. Or wreck their car or have a blow out and blame walmart and try to sue.

So walmart will no longer mount tires on a vehicle that are not supposed to be on it to protect their self from legal problems.

You can remove the tires and rims yourself and roll them in and they will mount them as long as the tires are new but they will not mount used tires.

And no walmart will not flash your computer they are not a dealer
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Same thing with America’s tire/Discount tire
They won’t mount bigger tire that allowed by their computer
And that is funny considering their involvement in KOH, JKX, JLX etc.
They won’t even work on bead-locks

I had 4wd mount mine


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It's a legal issue.. Costco won't install tires that are outside the factory installed tire specs either.

You think they'd get around it by having the customer sign a release for anything you wanted to insall.. But they don't.
Oh yes they will. It depends on your wheels. They won't install 35's on stock rims, due to the width of the wheel. Becareful on posting false info
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Oh yes they will. It depends on your wheels. They won't install 35's on stock rims, due to the width of the wheel. Becareful on posting false info


Not only width but diameter too.
AM/Tire wouldn’t install 2”taller tire on Ram 1500 even that it has 10” clearance


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A friend of mine worked at Walmart changing oil and mounting tires. It is Walmart policy to only mount what tires came on the vehicle from the factory. The reason being is so many people have tried to mount aftermarket tires that are too big then they dont fit and blame walmart and want a refund. Or wreck their car or have a blow out and blame walmart and try to sue.

So walmart will no longer mount tires on a vehicle that are not supposed to be on it to protect their self from legal problems.

You can remove the tires and rims yourself and roll them in and they will mount them as long as the tires are new but they will not mount used tires.

And no walmart will not flash your computer they are not a dealer
thanks, that is pretty much what they told me.
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Oh yes they will. It depends on your wheels. They won't install 35's on stock rims, due to the width of the wheel. Becareful on posting false info
Local Costco manager flatly refused to install any tire differing from original equipment specs. IME Costco has the best tire prices but only for the bread+butter cars only.
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Local Costco manager flatly refused to install any tire differing from original equipment specs. IME Costco has the best tire prices but only for the bread+butter cars only.
Same here, Costco refused to install one size bigger on wife’s Audi.
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Same thing with America’s tire/Discount tire
They won’t mount bigger tire that allowed by their computer
And that is funny considering their involvement in KOH, JKX, JLX etc.
They won’t even work on bead-locks

I had 4wd mount mine


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America's Tire mounted 315/70/17s on my stock rims. Maybe you're talking even larger tires, but that was a pretty decent bump from stock, and wouldn't have fit on a stock JK. Or maybe specific shops are just more uptight than others.


*Edit to correct from 315/75/17 to 315/70/17.
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Just take them the wheels and tires instead of the whole vehicle. It is none of their business what they are going on. Maybe it is an off road specific vehicle... maybe not.
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Walmart's policy is to only mount OEM sized tires. They won't waive from this. You can still buy the tires from them, just have them mounted elsewhere.

They definitely won't flash the computer. The only place that can do this is a dealership, or yourself if you buy a programmer.
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Same thing with America’s tire/Discount tire
They won’t mount bigger tire that allowed by their computer
And that is funny considering their involvement in KOH, JKX, JLX etc.
They won’t even work on bead-locks

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This is true in the case of tire manufacturer specs to wheel size. Example: They won't mount a 13.50 wide tire to a 7.5 inch wide wheel.

As for tire size to vehicle, they will mount anything that fits. They have mounted multiple 38-40 inch tires for me. Hell, last time I was there, they were pushing me to try something new and go with the 42x14.50 MTR.
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you guys go to Wal-Mart to have your tires installed? I thought Wal-Mart is where you go for a slushie and or chili cheese fries and cheap underwear. Times have changed!
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I like Walmart!

True story, I needed 4 tires removed from their rims.
I loaded up my truck with the 4 wheels and drove to Walmart.
Told the girl at the counter what I needed.
She looks oddly at the register key pad for an extended period time.
Then says, I don't have a button for just removing tires, we only charge for installing tires so I can't charge you.

What? You got to be kidding me.

Me, hmm, OK.



A year later figured I'd try it again.
This time its a guy in his 50's
Thinking to myself, I'm not going to get away with it this time.

Tell him the same, I need 4 tires removed from the rims.
He starts looking for the button that's isn't there
Says out loud to himself, I can't remove the tires for free!
Me, how much?
Still looking for the missing button that tells him how much to charge
Gets frustrated that he can't find it and tell me he doesn't have a button to charge just for removal .... rolls the 4 wheels into the shop.
8 tires removed from rims.....priceless
Did I say I like Walmart...
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Just take them the wheels and tires instead of the whole vehicle. It is none of their business what they are going on. Maybe it is an off road specific vehicle... maybe not.
That's a good thought, but they charge almost double the amount if you carry them in. The way they write it up its all separate prices with no bundle discounts. However, if you carry-in offroad tires and don't take all the extras like balancing and such the price is right. Carry-in is the only time its not mandatory for them to balance your tires.
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you guys go to Wal-Mart to have your tires installed? I thought Wal-Mart is where you go for a slushie and or chili cheese fries and cheap underwear. Times have changed!
Times really have not changed. I do not know, nor have I heard of, a single Jeep owner that used or contemplated using Wal-Mart to install their tires.

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