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Old 11-11-2019, 05:37 PM
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1 inch = $5,000?

I have 265/70r17 BFG KO2 from the factory on my Jeep. I will be going to a 285/70r17 KO2 when my current tires wear out. That is roughly a 33" tire. I would like to go to 35" tires. The tires are more expensive (I need 5), I would also need a lift, shocks and gears.

I didn't actually add up the cost, but my rough guess is that would be about $5,000 all for one more inch of clearance. There would be the extra benefit of greater articulation. Are there any other benefits I'm not considering?

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It's the "cool" factor. If you can use a wrench you can probably get it all for 3K $ plus gears cost about 1500. The MC 3 inch with their oil shocks, adj CA's, rear TB bracket and Adj ft TB. Brake lines and other Misc items. To go 35's or 315's really wouldn't be much more. But do it right the first time. Just to add a 1/2 inch spacer the coil spring has the be removed and that ain't fun. If you really don't know what you want to do, then do nothing. At least you haven't made a mistake.

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Depends on wheels and tires too. You can go the "baller route" with Hutchinson beadlocks and Nitto MT's OR you can go the "this is functional, looks good and saved me a buttload of money" route by buying Pro Comp wheels and Milestar Patagonia tires.

Hutchinson and Nittos (using rough numbers) $3,400
Pro Comps and Patagonias (using rough numbers) $1,700

This would net you 2.5" in height. It all depends on your bling factor and actual application.

As for a lift. You can run flat fenders and add a AEV spacer lift for about $900 Or you can run a AEV Dual Sport 2.5" installed for about $1,500.

This will add another 2" of height.
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USStrongman is telling you right. ProComp 69's and 35 Pats just ran me $2K for 5, mounted and balanced OTD. You can do a 2.5" lift for $1K if you really want to, $1,500-$2K for a nice one. All of this gains you a lot more than just 1" (in height, articulation and performance). Gears is an entirely other thing, where are you starting from?
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A lot of dudes would pay much more than that for an extra inch...
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Going to a larger tire is nots just about ground clearance. It is about how much easier it is to find purchase on an obstacle. The taller the tire the easier.
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I have 265/70r17 BFG KO2 from the factory on my Jeep. I will be going to a 285/70r17 KO2 when my current tires wear out. That is roughly a 33" tire. I would like to go to 35" tires. The tires are more expensive (I need 5), I would also need a lift, shocks and gears.

I didn't actually add up the cost, but my rough guess is that would be about $5,000 all for one more inch of clearance. There would be the extra benefit of greater articulation. Are there any other benefits I'm not considering?
My first shot at a lift was a lot less than $5000. It was around $1000. Even if you add $1500 for 35" tires (315/70-17's) it is still way less than $5000. But CAN you spend $5000 for that extra clearance (not just an inch at the tires but around 4" at the chassis)? Sure. Easily. In fact I am on something like my fourth version of lift and this latest one is likely $5000 without tires if I were to add it all up (but I don't want to).
There are a number of lift options in the 2.5" range. Especially if you are installing it yourself, it should be easy to get a nice 2.5" lift for well under two grand, many would be half that. Add $1500 for tires and you are still under $3500. If you want new wheels to go with it, there is that. Another $1000 - $1500 for wheels.
Jeeps can certainly eat up money, a big hole in the dirt we throw money into. But you don't NEED to spend that sort of coin on them, we CHOOSE to.
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My first shot at a lift was a lot less than $5000. It was around $1000. Even if you add $1500 for 35" tires (315/70-17's) it is still way less than $5000. But CAN you spend $5000 for that extra clearance (not just an inch at the tires but around 4" at the chassis)? Sure. Easily. In fact I am on something like my fourth version of lift and this latest one is likely $5000 without tires if I were to add it all up (but I don't want to).
There are a number of lift options in the 2.5" range. Especially if you are installing it yourself, it should be easy to get a nice 2.5" lift for well under two grand, many would be half that. Add $1500 for tires and you are still under $3500. If you want new wheels to go with it, there is that. Another $1000 - $1500 for wheels.
Jeeps can certainly eat up money, a big hole in the dirt we throw money into. But you don't NEED to spend that sort of coin on them, we CHOOSE to.
Exactly! Too many have no comprehension of the difference between want and need these days. I started with the AEV 2 1/2" lift with 315-70-17s and flat fenders and still have the lift and fenders but the tires are now 37s and the lift is accentuated by Core 4x4 arms and a list as long as your arm of other changes. Did it that way because I Wanted to and certainly not because I needed to. I've had rigs in the past that were many times more radical but I've been looking for a happy median. Best advice I could give is that if you don't have the cash in your lap with no need to put it anyplace else stay stock and be happy. If you do then do it the way you want and not what you think someone else would advise.
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$150 Daystar spacer lift, $900 for Milestar 35s, $550 for wheels. Where are you getting $5,000??

Very very few people actually need a full blown suspension system.
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Oh, as to the original question, aside from the increase in clearance and off road capability a good quality lift will handle and drive better on road as well. Stock Jeeps don't handle or drive that well, the suspension is adequate, but not overly exceptional. It can be better. But better is often a matter of money. Jeeps can be made a lot better than they come out the factory stock. But it is a matter of how much better can you afford.
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Sure, you can spend lots of money, but you don't have to.

Your proposal: Gears (figure $1500 installed). Lift with springs and shocks ($1000 for a good set up). Wheels and tires ($2500 give or take). Total there is right at $5k.

How I did it differently (for now...I will be going to springs/shocks):
Spacer lift. 2.5" in the front, 1" in the back. Front is home made from scrap lexan and I can vary the height wherever I want it. Rear is a terraflex 1" spacer. My spare is inside the cargo area of my JKU with stock rear bumper and stubby front with a synth line winch. This setup gets front and rear exactly 1.5" lifted. Jeep rake is gone. Cost $60.

I did nothing with my wonderful 3.21 gears (auto).

OEM 17" alloys with 295-70-17 Cepek Extreme Country. These give me the traction I want and some added height. $1000 for 5 including installation.

1.5" spacers so the tires don't rub. $50 off craigslist.

So I'm at $1110 total. At some point in the future, I'll do springs and shocks and probably a rear locker. But for now, my next addition is a gas tank skid. Already have oil pan and tranny skids and relocated the stabilizer (diy...$0) on top.

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Just look at how much you will save by skipping all the "fluff" and building what you want the first time and with quality parts.
By fluff I mean trying to build not what you really want, but settling with lesser tires...
All you need to run 35 inch tires
Quality 2.5 inch basic lift
Adjustable front track bar add adjustable rear uppers for a 2 door
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Really should use adjustable front lowers
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As a reference, I lifted 2.5" and regeared my 10A to run 35s over the past nearly year, and I paid close to the 5K mark.

With the exception of the regear, front axle strengthening, and tire mounting, I have done all my own work. I also scoured the net for take-off parts to save where I could: TeraFlex Monster Track Bar, TeraFlex Sport Control arms (all 8), and my Mopar High Top Flares are all take-offs and were considerably less than the new price.

I'm not so sure the 5K mark is out of the realm of possibility. It is not cheap to build up a Jeep to perform both off-road and on the highway well.

You can do it for way less, but the performance will also reflect the investment, or lack of.

This is, of course, more than 1". Over stock, I'm up nearly 3.5".
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You can easily spend $10K if going with a top of the line suspension system (not coilovers) tires and gears. MC Game Changer with 6Paks, $4300, Weld XT B58 wheels, $750 a piece, Toyo Open Country M/T, $383 a piece, re-gear $1500-$2000. That right there is $11.5K. I'm only missing the Weld wheels and I would not run Toyo's.

But I would not recommend this unless you are planning to keep the vehicle forever. The most important part to this is to envision what the end state of the vehicle will look like and build from there.

IMO the AEV 2.5 inch Sportsman lift is about the best you can get for the price. Your other option is to forget the lift and just go with flat fenders and be be had as cheap as $300. Many ways to skin the bear.
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$150 Daystar spacer lift, $900 for Milestar 35s, $550 for wheels. Where are you getting $5,000??

Very very few people actually need a full blown suspension system.
Oh now you tell me. I'm on my 4th JK.
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1 inch = $5,000?

A lot of guys would pay $5K for 1 inch more.
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Since OP is talking about ground clearance, I assume he already does or intends to wheel the jeep. Just putting that out there in curiosity, as if it's purely aesthetic, I take it that could change some of you veteran enthusiasts' answers/advice. The $5k threw me for a loop which is why I say this.
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5x Duratrac 35"x12.5" R17 $1515
5x Cheapest steel wheels I could find w/ the correct back spacing $400
3.5" AEV DS lift kit $1800
Poison Spyder Body Mounted Tire carrier $900
Color match spray paint for the carrier $100
Exhaust spacer $50 (+ labor because the bolts were cross threaded from the factory $25)
JKS Quicker disconnects $165

DIY labor

I'm at $4955 so I can have a nice lift with 35s. That's still on 3.73s and factory brakes.

Doing it right will easily cost 5k. Im 5k in on lift and tires and still not complete
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Thinking about it, I could probably get an inch for free if I pulled off all the steel skid plates, rocker armor, winch and and took the heavy ass recovery back outta the back.
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$5000 on Jeep mods is money well spend. Unless one day you want to trade/sell the beast, you'll get nothing back.
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I'm at the same place. Stock Rubicon MTs going to Nitto 285/75. I'll put them on Method 315s. That's gonna hurt without a lift. Right now I've got a little spacer lift that came with the Jeep, but if I really do what I want...MC 2.5" Gamechanger... it's gonna leave a mark on my wallet.
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I went with the 2.5 JKS JSpec lift, (mechanic said best quality lift he's ever installed) $1032 delivered with shocks, quadratrac 1.5 inch wheel spacers--using my stock Rubicon wheels-$180, JKS exhaust spacer $42, EVO sway bar manual conversion $99.98, 285X75X17 Maxxis BucKshot mudder II MT-764 (4) $1009 delivered, and $500 in labor to install. No gear change needed since I have 4.10's already.

That gets me at $2,862 total or $1145 an inch. The JKS lift and tires gained me close to 6 inches on the rock rails so I guess that nets me closer to $477 an inch. Seems pretty reasonable to me
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$5K on the JK is better than $5K on hookers and blow. Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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$5K on the JK is better than $5K on hookers and blow. Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Whoa, slow down there King Toot, with that habit there won’t be a Jeep (or house) to concern oneself with.
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Spend the $$$ on the Jeep, it lasts longer and you get receipts. If you do loose your house you will have a nice jeep to drive off in.
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Oh man. Let's see. I've picked up a lot of things used, I'll try to itemize out what I've spent so far in lift/height

2.5" rough country spacer lift: free
Metalcloak front quick disco 70
Metalcloak rear links 50
Metalcloak front track bar 170
Metalcloak rear track bar 170
Metalcloak rear track bar bracket (used) free
Metalcloak front upper and lower control arms, (used) : 300
5x Procomp Xtreme MT 2's 35" (used) 520 installed

So, I'm at $1280 right now. Technically you could say I'm at $930, since I sold my BFG KMs for $350 after I installed the 35s.

Saving up for brake lines, bump stops, springs and shocks.

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Oh man. Let's see. I've picked up a lot of things used, I'll try to itemize out what I've spent so far in lift/height

2.5" rough country spacer lift: free
Metalcloak front quick disco 70
Metalcloak rear links 50
Metalcloak front track bar 170
Metalcloak rear track bar 170
Metalcloak rear track bar bracket (used) free
Metalcloak front upper and lower control arms, (used) : 300
5x Procomp Xtreme MT 2's 35" (used) 520 installed

So, I'm at $1280 right now. Technically you could say I'm at $930, since I sold my BFG KMs for $350 after I installed the 35s.

Saving up for brake lines, bump stops, springs and shocks.

(also looking out for gently used parts )
Nice to run across another used part aficionado.
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Since OP is talking about ground clearance, I assume he already does or intends to wheel the jeep. Just putting that out there in curiosity, as if it's purely aesthetic, I take it that could change some of you veteran enthusiasts' answers/advice. The $5k threw me for a loop which is why I say this.
Yes, I intend to wheel it but only overland style, not rock crawling.

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