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Old 06-05-2013, 01:59 PM
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2.5-3 inch lifts

Sorry for the noob question, but I am going to purchase a 2014 rubicon unlimited this fall. I will be modding as I go, but the first thing I will do is install a lift and adding wheels/tires. I will probably run no bigger than 33s on the jeep. This will be my first jeep and I am looking for the "smoothest" ride. This will be my dd with some offloading. No crawling here in Louisiana, just mud and mosquitoes. Anyway, which lift is the smoothest on road lift?
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Sorry for the noob question, but I am going to purchase a 2014 rubicon unlimited this fall. I will be modding as I go, but the first thing I will do is install a lift and adding wheels/tires. I will probably run no bigger than 33s on the jeep. This will be my first jeep and I am looking for the "smoothest" ride. This will be my dd with some offloading. No crawling here in Louisiana, just mud and mosquitoes. Anyway, which lift is the smoothest on road lift?
Thanks for the help.
What's your price range? Are you doing a budget boost or a spring lift? The consensus here is that the AEV 2.5" is the best onroad ride.

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check out offroad evolution's "plush ride" system or any of aev's system.
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It is a tough call. The 2014's are not out yet and we don't know what they are going to be changing on us yet. What works on the 2013's may not work on the 2014's.

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Which would be best, BB or spring lift? Like I said, I am totally new to this an this will be my dd most of the time. As for my budget, I am of the buy once cry once crowd. I don't want to buy something that is cheaper, but is a rougher ride. I am willing to spend what is necessary to get it done right.
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Replacing the cheap stock coils is better especially if your going to be adding weight down the road.

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Which would be best, BB or spring lift? Like I said, I am totally new to this an this will be my dd most of the time. As for my budget, I am of the buy once cry once crowd. I don't want to buy something that is cheaper, but is a rougher ride. I am willing to spend what is necessary to get it done right.
BB will keep your stock ride by adding pucks on top of your factory springs. Good aftermarket spring lifts will improve the ride and enhance your articulation offroad. If you even think you'll be going offroad, I'd get it done right the first time (springs). If you search around the forum, tons of people have tried the cheap way on mods and ended up spending more when they aren't satisfied (myself included).

I'm in LA too if you need any help.
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Also if you are only going to run 33's then get a 2.5" lift it doesnt sound like a lot of difference but it wont look as funny wheel gap wise. Plus if you do ever decide to go to 35's you can still fit them on a 2.5" kit.
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Sorry for the noob question, but I am going to purchase a 2014 rubicon unlimited this fall. I will be modding as I go, but the first thing I will do is install a lift and adding wheels/tires. I will probably run no bigger than 33s on the jeep. This will be my first jeep and I am looking for the "smoothest" ride. This will be my dd with some offloading. No crawling here in Louisiana, just mud and mosquitoes. Anyway, which lift is the smoothest on road lift?
Thanks for the help.
If you are not going to run larger than 33s, you don't need a lift.

Here is what I suggest. Put the tires on, see how that works out. If you still want the lift, then get a 2.5". A budget boost even works out for you with a set of either lower or upper adjustable arms to correct caster, or AEV arm brackets.

I don't think you will need epic flex for mud or muddy trails.
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I had a 1998 Tj and had a 2 inch body lift with 33"s. In an incline the tires still scrubbed a bit.
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JKs have much more clearance out of the factory than TJs.
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Actually not really
TJ ground
Ground Clearance at curb weight:
Front Axle: 8.0 (204) min.; 9.6 (243) max.
Rear Axle: 7.9 (202) min.; 9.5 (24) max.
Running: 9.7 (246) min.; 11.2 (2847) max.

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front Axle Clearance 8.7
rear Axle Clearance10.2
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The point is the size tire you can run without a lift I thought.
my 2007 has a 3 inch lift and 35s
Lots of clearance. And it still fits in the garage.
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I just installed a teraflex 2.5" spring lift with the tera flex shocks. It rides every bit as good as stock. Nice plush ride.
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Actually not really
TJ ground
Ground Clearance at curb weight:
Front Axle: 8.0 (204) min.; 9.6 (243) max.
Rear Axle: 7.9 (202) min.; 9.5 (24) max.
Running: 9.7 (246) min.; 11.2 (2847) max.

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front Axle Clearance 8.7
rear Axle Clearance10.2
they have more clearance/room in the fender area. which is why they can run bigger tires on less lift compared to a tj.
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Turn for Turn it will still hit the suspension. Up and down there's more room. I installed the 35s first with the same result. Don't look at just the fender clearance.
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Let me rephrase, they have longer coils, with more separation between the frame and the axle. I ran 35s with no lift on wheels with 4 of backspace, the only place where they hit was the fender flare at full flex.

Can you do that with a TJ?

You are basically saying, that, TJs and JKs have the same coil height? Its basically contrary to every review I have read about the JKs and my experience. I've always heard praise of how little lift you need on JKs to stuff bigger tires compared to older generations. I guess they are wrong... I know plenty of people running 33s with 0 mods, they dont even hit the flares and the only problem are the stock wheels if running width of 12+

If its not coil height, then what is it?
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Why did
You use 4 inches of back space? I installed 35 x13.50 and it hit the frame in a turn. That's without a lift.
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You use 4 inches of back space? I installed 35 x13.50 and it hit the frame in a turn. That's without a lift.
You answered your question yourself. He used 4" of backspace because it is good practice to do so, so that you retain your original turning radius and do not it the frame and other components when steering, potentially damaging a tire or component
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And if you're just standing still or you don't go off road you could use the smaller 33 but compressing the suspension in a turn its going to hit especially with the more popular 35s.
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So 4 inch backspace is not considered a mod?
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And if you're just standing still or you don't go off road you could use the smaller 33 but compressing the suspension in a turn its going to hit especially with the more popular 35s.
Most people don't corner hard enough to compress their suspension that much. I know ppl that ran 35's stock for a while and they never rubbed on the street. Even speed bumps. Off road they rubbed like crazy. Even a 2.5" lift would reduce that to nothing or almost nothing

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Not really no. It's more just a physical characteristic. It's a property of the wheel or you add wheel spacers to achieve it. Basically it pushes the wheel out farther from the axle so that when you bring the steering to full lock it doesn't rub
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So if you don't go off road and you own a jeep and never plan on going off road then forget about the suspension left but if you intend on going off road like I do then I'm going with my 3 inch suspension lift and forget about a two and a half cause my tires will rub in corners during trail riding. Or hard climbs. This is my 5th jeep . I do all my own modifications all my own lip I've at a 95 and I have a 207 and I would never think of ever going off road without a minimum 3 inch lift if you're going to drive around town that's one thing if you ever planning on going off road minimal 3 inch lift. Running 33's at a minimum looks kinda silly without a lift of any kind running 33's looks ghetto without a lift if you're looking at characteristics or physical characteristics of the Jeep
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That last sentence meant to say running 35 inch tires without a lift looks pretty ghetto but I'm doing this from a phone not a computer my apologies for the typos.
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And I'm completely against wheel spacers. It adds way too much stress on the axles and that's just ,how cheap can you be? go buy a lift. I fabricate a lot of my own parts and powder coat and install on my own vehicles jeeps that is but some of these modifications these lifts are just that they are selling are just cheap ,you have to use your own hardware previously on the vehicle you get cheap shocks cheap coils so just invest the money do it right and be done with it. You can get a decent suspension lift for about 500 bucks
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Someone posted an excellent video you guys should watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZUS...e_gdata_player
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And I'm completely against wheel spacers. It adds way too much stress on the axles and that's just ,how cheap can you be? go buy a lift. I fabricate a lot of my own parts and powder coat and install on my own vehicles jeeps that is but some of these modifications these lifts are just that they are selling are just cheap ,you have to use your own hardware previously on the vehicle you get cheap shocks cheap coils so just invest the money do it right and be done with it. You can get a decent suspension lift for about 500 bucks
You do realize a 1.25-1.5 spacer will put just as much stress on the axle as a wheel with less backspacing ?
Think about what's going on... You are moving the mounting point out either way you go.
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And I'm completely against wheel spacers. It adds way too much stress on the axles and that's just ,how cheap can you be? go buy a lift. I fabricate a lot of my own parts and powder coat and install on my own vehicles jeeps that is but some of these modifications these lifts are just that they are selling are just cheap ,you have to use your own hardware previously on the vehicle you get cheap shocks cheap coils so just invest the money do it right and be done with it. You can get a decent suspension lift for about 500 bucks
A lift and wheel spacers dont achieve the same things. I have 4 inch backspace wheels that cost less than spidertraxx spacers though......
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Wheel spacers are for people they can afford the right equipment that's what I'm saying don't do it by the right stuff
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Like Mich says, a set of 15" steely's will run about the same. A alloy $100-$200 more.

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