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Old 06-05-2015, 11:12 AM
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2015 Wrangler Unlimited Family Car

Hey guys,

Did a search on this in the forums and had surprisingly no results (that I saw). I am wondering because maybe it is an unwritten law to call it as such, but I am wondering if buying a Wrangler Unlimited as a family car is a good idea? In terms of space it should be fine, but because it can strip down to a bar bones vehicle, does it leave the car lacking a lot in safety features for kids?

I don't have any kids now but I can see myself owning the car for a very long time obviously and it will most likely be the "family car" once we have kids. Would you advise to go a different route for a bigger car or does a Wrangler make sense for fun, top down, family driving in the sun? If not, do you guys recommend staying in the Jeep Family with a Grand Cherokee? I believe those score a little higher in safety but lack to "fun factor" to me.

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Don't have a family (yet), but also see myself having kids in the future.. I see lots of guys driving around with kids in the back or car seats, as well as a bunch of forum members have families. I'd say a wrangler is a great family car. Very versatile, lots of fun, and lots of mods you can do to improve the comfort for your family (ie: rear seat recline mod). I would never drive any other vehicle labeled a "family car". With the jeep you get all the fun as well as practicality of a 4 door suv...plus its meant to be abused and if your kid spills his vanilla cone just hose out the inside!

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No way for someone to predict what you will want or need.

I can say that many people purchase Wranglers and love them for the ability to run top and/or doors off. And their off road ability.
Conversely
Many purchase them and are disappointed because they expect a more luxurious interior, sophisticated ride, etc.

So, like I said, no way for us to predict what you want.

IMO, drive them both, be honest about your expectations then buy the appropriate vehicle.

I have 6 kids, 2 still in the house. They love top off driving. 50/50 on doors off driving. I have no worries about the safety of my wrangler.

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My wife and I are at a point in our lives where we're starting to think about having kids. I just bought a JKU with no hesitation whatsoever. I'm completely comfortable with the idea of carting a kid or two around in it. They'll be the coolest kid in school when they get dropped off in a topless, doorless Jeep.
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I hadn't intended to make my Jeep the "family car", but now that I have it, my son refuses to ride in anything else...

As far as safety goes, the #1 factor is not the car, but proactively being a defensive driver. And that means giving cars around you plenty of room, not weaving through traffic nor going too slow, and keeping an eye on the both the vehicles around you and the road.
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Thanks everyone. All great feedback and it puts my mind at ease. I am not looking for a luxurious interior. I actually happen to like the cabin of the Wrangler the way it is.

I will also weight out options in trim level as well. I am assuming the higher trim levels have no added safety features that the sport lacks correct?
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I think a JKU is a perfect family vehicle. It has plenty of room for a stroller, car seats, and any other baby / kid necessity. As your kids get older they won't want to ride in anything else.

My daughter is 2 and she says "Ride in Daddy's Jeep?" lol she also says Jeep every time she sees one.

My JKU is perfect for long drives even with the 33" duratracs. It's a bit quieter with the hard top on though.
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Jeep Wrangler is the Ultimate Family vehicle. Bar None. There is no second place.

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What vehicle won a war and is forever an Icon of American Liberty and Freedom?

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What vehicle goes with you on vacation and is actually part of the vacation?

What vehicle do the kids always choose to go get ice cream in?

What vehicle do the kids wave to?

What vehicle is part of the family?

What other model of vehicle is known by Model codes?

What other vehicle is as comfortable at the school, at the mall, on the interstate, in the woods, in the mud or on the rocks all at the same time?

The question is not are Wranglers family vehicles but rather, Are you really a family without one?
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Thanks everyone. All great feedback and it puts my mind at ease. I am not looking for a luxurious interior. I actually happen to like the cabin of the Wrangler the way it is.

I will also weight out options in trim level as well. I am assuming the higher trim levels have no added safety features that the sport lacks correct?
You know, not really.

The base Sport/Willys does not offer side airbags. You have to step up to a Sport S or Willys W for that option (and it is an option, not a standard feature on all the models that offer it). The side airbags are for the front seats only.

Once you step up to a Sahara/Rubi, you get auto-headlights.

That's really it for actual safety features.

Get ready to spend quite a bit of money, but they can work as a family vehicle.

I'll say this much. DO YOU RESEARCH. Buying a Wrangler is not like buying a car where the next model up is always better. And selecting the right options up front can save you a lot of money later.

Compared to other vehicles, there really isn't a whole lot of mechanical difference between the absolute base model, and the top of the line model. Same engine, same transmission, same exhaust, same headlights, same brakes, ect....

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The more kids you have, the more a two seater makes sense.
Buy a JK, and throw away the back seat.
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I have 3 kids and they're at an age where they can all 3 fit in the back seat (with a booster for the youngest). Fun times are had when driving topless.
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I have 3 kids. One in a booster and one in a car seat. They all love the jeep and the two youngest point out every jeep they see going down the road. We had a Nissan murano before the jeep and the jeep has more room and is way more fun.
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I should start my post by stating that I've only owned my JKU for about 45 days now.

I have 3 kids (One in a front facing car seat, one in a booster seat, and one with no assisted seat). The kids have plenty of room. They love it, we can fit the strollers and all their other crap without issue. While my JKU was never intended to be the "family car" it's being used a lot with the entire family.

Kids sometimes struggle getting in and out of it due to it's height (stock) but I'm hoping to mitigate that soon by adding a side step. I also do not see us taking it on any long road trips. Believe it or not on long road trips with the kids I think I would prefer the convenience and luxuries of my wife's minivan. (yes I said that)
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DINKs here, so I can't comment on the kiddo factor... but we have a Grand Cherokee and a Wrangler Unlimited. If you are looking for something more refined and less off-road capable, seriously consider the Grand Cherokee. The Wrangler is a ton of fun but if you aren't going to make use of its features and might not stray from the pavement, the JGC is probably a better value and a better road vehicle.

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Jeep Wrangler is the Ultimate Family vehicle. Bar None. There is no second place.

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What vehicle won a war and is forever an Icon of American Liberty and Freedom?

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What vehicle goes with you on vacation and is actually part of the vacation?

What vehicle do the kids always choose to go get ice cream in?

What vehicle do the kids wave to?

What vehicle is part of the family?

What other model of vehicle is known by Model codes?

What other vehicle is as comfortable at the school, at the mall, on the interstate, in the woods, in the mud or on the rocks all at the same time?

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Obviously a car that does not have a solid metal top is a safety concern.

1. The hard top is fiberglass and the biggest concern is debris. If you get hit and flip the hard top will soon be shredded into about 5,000 sharp pieces and this puts all in the cabin in danger from flying shards of fiberglass.

2. If you ride with a softtop the main concern is debris from the other car. If you roll your top will be shredded in seconds and then you have to worry about flying debris from the other car(s) such as broken glass etc.

3. The doors on a Jeep are thinner than most other cars and trucks and they are made this way to be light enough to take off.

4. If you put a carseat in the back of a Jeep its almost impossible to see out of the back. I have a top of the line Britax for my 4 year old but now its impossible to see the sides and the back. Its centered in the middle and reason being, you don't want to put kids next to the already thin doors. When he's not riding in the seat I tip it over on its side so I can see out the back.

5. A solid axle spring suspension will have you rolling over like it was going out of style.

Check out this video. Trucks with independent front and rear suspension do not have a high roller over rate like Jeeps. Springs are not forgiving and the unforgiveness can turn your ride into a nightmare in seconds. The old and outdated solid axle design with springs is primarily the reason that Jeep Wranglers have the highest rollover rate for any vehicle.


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Yes, Jeeps are not the most unsafe cars, but they sure are not the safest. If you are looking for crash resistance I would say look into Volvo or Mercedes Benz.
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I hadn't intended to make my Jeep the "family car", but now that I have it, my son refuses to ride in anything else...

As far as safety goes, the #1 factor is not the car, but proactively being a defensive driver. And that means giving cars around you plenty of room, not weaving through traffic nor going too slow, and keeping an eye on the both the vehicles around you and the road.
This is a great point. Folks want the car to be safe and there can be a tendency to push the responsibility onto the car rather than the driver.

I have 3 kids now grown, I wish I had a Jeep when they were younger. I think it's important to teach them to have fun with little things every day, and driving around in the Jeep can be a part of that.
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Jeep Wranglers have the highest rollover rate for any vehicle.
Please provide a source for your information on this.

The only information I have seen (census data) does not break down vehicles into make/model. http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/12s1107.pdf

"Light Truck/Utility" has the highest rollover percentage with 4% of all accidents, and 32.3% of accidents that had a fatality (including in the other vehicle) involving a rollover with one or more of the vehicles involved in the crash.

Where "Light Truck/Utility" means: Trucks of 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating or less, including pickups, vans, truck-based station wagons and utility vehicles.
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Obviously a car that does not have a solid metal top is a safety concern.

1. The hard top is fiberglass and the biggest concern is debris. If you get hit and flip the hard top will soon be shredded into about 5,000 sharp pieces and this puts all in the cabin in danger from flying shards of fiberglass.

2. If you ride with a softtop the main concern is debris from the other car. If you roll your top will be shredded in seconds and then you have to worry about flying debris from the other car(s) such as broken glass etc.

3. The doors on a Jeep are thinner than most other cars and trucks and they are made this way to be light enough to take off.

4. If you put a carseat in the back of a Jeep its almost impossible to see out of the back. I have a top of the line Britax for my 4 year old but now its impossible to see the sides and the back. Its centered in the middle and reason being, you don't want to put kids next to the already thin doors. When he's not riding in the seat I tip it over on its side so I can see out the back.

5. A solid axle spring suspension will have you rolling over like it was going out of style.

Check out this video. Trucks with independent front and rear suspension do not have a high roller over rate like Jeeps. Springs are not forgiving and the unforgiveness can turn your ride into a nightmare in seconds. The old and outdated solid axle design with springs is primarily the reason that Jeep Wranglers have the highest rollover rate for any vehicle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9vE1Wg3eP0



Yes, Jeeps are not the most unsafe cars, but they sure are not the safest. If you are looking for crash resistance I would say look into Volvo or Mercedes Benz.



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Do you wear a helmet to bed? I hear that when you rollover during sleep you are 63% more likely to hit your head than if you don't roll over.
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The old and outdated solid axle design with springs is primarily the reason that Jeep Wranglers have the highest rollover rate for any vehicle.


yes, Jeeps are not the most unsafe cars, but they sure are not the safest. If you are looking for crash resistance I would say look into Volvo or Mercedes Benz.
Hm one would think if it was rolling over so much it would be on the list of most deadly cars/suvs.. but nope not there...
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Obviously a car that does not have a solid metal top is a safety concern.

1. The hard top is fiberglass and the biggest concern is debris. If you get hit and flip the hard top will soon be shredded into about 5,000 sharp pieces and this puts all in the cabin in danger from flying shards of fiberglass.

2. If you ride with a softtop the main concern is debris from the other car. If you roll your top will be shredded in seconds and then you have to worry about flying debris from the other car(s) such as broken glass etc.

3. The doors on a Jeep are thinner than most other cars and trucks and they are made this way to be light enough to take off.

4. If you put a carseat in the back of a Jeep its almost impossible to see out of the back. I have a top of the line Britax for my 4 year old but now its impossible to see the sides and the back. Its centered in the middle and reason being, you don't want to put kids next to the already thin doors. When he's not riding in the seat I tip it over on its side so I can see out the back.

5. A solid axle spring suspension will have you rolling over like it was going out of style.

Check out this video. Trucks with independent front and rear suspension do not have a high roller over rate like Jeeps. Springs are not forgiving and the unforgiveness can turn your ride into a nightmare in seconds. The old and outdated solid axle design with springs is primarily the reason that Jeep Wranglers have the highest rollover rate for any vehicle.





Yes, Jeeps are not the most unsafe cars, but they sure are not the safest. If you are looking for crash resistance I would say look into Volvo or Mercedes Benz.

I assume this post was meant to be a little facetious.........I would have to see pictures of a shredded hard top to take this even remotely serious.
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I assume this post was meant to be a little facetious.........I would have to see pictures of a shredded hard top to take this even remotely serious.
Nope. Just the facts. No need to get all butthurt.

"With “marginal” ratings in side and rear-impact protection, the two-door Wrangler joins other SUVs, such as the CX-7, CX-9 and Pathfinder, as a poor performer in IIHS tests. One of the few car models that actually underperforms the two-door Jeep Wrangler is the larger four-door version. This version of the Wrangler also received a “marginal” rear-impact rating, yet was also given a “poor” side-impact rating. During a recent IIHS side-impact test, a dummy was struck by the steel bars supporting the four-door Wrangler’s convertible roof. Both of the models’ overall poor performance stems in part from the fact they were unable to protect the driver’s or back-seat passengers’ heads and other bodily parts in simulated accidents. Despite earning the lowest score of any mid-size SUV from Consumer Reports, the Wrangler still sells especially well with more than 120,000 sold in the U.S. in 2011."



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We have 2 kids, 10 and 14. We bought our JKU just for family trips, mostly to Colorado and other western locations. If you look at some of the threads that show pics of jeeps that have been in accidents, I think you will feel just fine about how safe your family will be.
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If you are concerned, get the side impact air bags for the JKU. 2 boosters with backs and a full size car seat does fit. The only issues is that my 2 older daughters have trouble doing up the seat belts due the base of the seat belt being close to the seat.

If you are really concerned about safety, get a used Jeep commander (they stopped making them in 2010). Its a 7 passenger with 7 airbags and is built and feels like a tank(wife has a 2010)! the major down side is that when the third row is up with the kids in the back, you can't see out the back window. There are however backup sensors and LED light bar to tell you if your close to anything. You also have to fold one of the middle seats up to get at the back seats. The third row is also right next to the back hatch too, so you cant but anything in the back when there are people sitting back there.
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Nope. Just the facts. No need to get all butthurt.

"With “marginal” ratings in side and rear-impact protection, the two-door Wrangler joins other SUVs, such as the CX-7, CX-9 and Pathfinder, as a poor performer in IIHS tests. One of the few car models that actually underperforms the two-door Jeep Wrangler is the larger four-door version. This version of the Wrangler also received a “marginal” rear-impact rating, yet was also given a “poor” side-impact rating. During a recent IIHS side-impact test, a dummy was struck by the steel bars supporting the four-door Wrangler’s convertible roof. Both of the models’ overall poor performance stems in part from the fact they were unable to protect the driver’s or back-seat passengers’ heads and other bodily parts in simulated accidents. Despite earning the lowest score of any mid-size SUV from Consumer Reports, the Wrangler still sells especially well with more than 120,000 sold in the U.S. in 2011."



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Imagine that I have been driving Jeeps since 1979 and I'm still alive! If you find Jeeps so unsafe then sell yours and buy a Volvo. I have been involved in four accidents while in my Jeeps, three I was rear ended and one a woman ran a stop sign straight in front of me with me doing fifty five mile an hour, in all four I drove away and lived another day. I have found my Jeeps to be very stable on road despite all the claims of the so called test venues, the biggest safety feature of any vehicle is the person behind the wheel.
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Hm one would think if it was rolling over so much it would be on the list of most deadly cars/suvs.. but nope not there...
Thank you for providing this list.

I was surprised to see so many imports at the top of the list, including Honda Civics which, I'd venture guess the average person would categorize as a "safe family car".

Goes to show perception doesn't always match reality.

Crash tests are done in artificial, "controlled conditions" in labs and are, to a large extent, academic. Nothing like reporting actual deaths per million as the ultimate, true measure of safety risk.

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Nope. Just the facts. No need to get all butthurt.


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The issue is that there are very few facts at that link...

If you are going to argue that it has the most rollover accidents of any vehicle make/model then you are going to have to back that up with some pretty hard data, like crash test results or accident results that compare all models of vehicles.

A website putting it on their "top ten" list from three years ago isn't data, especially if the website you picked is "News from e-generator.net", where their Chairman of e-generator.net is Drew Curits (who also owns fark.com "It's not news, it's fark.com")... I don't exactly put much stock in that source. Maybe that's just me?

Also, it appears that nearly all of the 58,874 articles there are written by Michael Sauter. That site has been around since 1999 (link), meaning Mr. Sauter has been working there 5,848 days and has written on average 10 articles per day.

So he has about an hour to research each article, assuming he works 10 hour days, 7 days a week.

Going from a "poor" crash test rating on one side impact test (out of 7 tests that they do), to a statement that this vehicle has the "the highest rollover rate for any vehicle" is an extreme stretch of logic.
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^^^ Have you also considered that many rollover accidents happen off road and are unaccounted for?

As for the research, I read it a few years ago and I don't really have the time to hunt it down on the internet.

But think about it, the number one off road vehicle flipping over while off road is very common and that doesnt even get factored into the overall stats.
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:49 PM   #29
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Who cares? If anyone thinks it's not safe enough for their family then don't drive one. Maybe I'm a bad parent but I've never once looked at crash ratings when purchasing a vehicle. Most of the mods I've done to vehicles over the years probably make them less safe in reality. People are so worried safety these days that they forget to have fun and enjoy life
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Imagine that I have been driving Jeeps since 1979 and I'm still alive! If you find Jeeps so unsafe then sell yours and buy a Volvo. I have been involved in four accidents while in my Jeeps, three I was rear ended and one a woman ran a stop sign straight in front of me with me doing fifty five mile an hour, in all four I drove away and lived another day. I have found my Jeeps to be very stable on road despite all the claims of the so called test venues, the biggest safety feature of any vehicle is the person behind the wheel.
I'm glad that you are ok but that still doesnt make the Wrangler any safer.

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