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Old 02-24-2016, 05:50 PM
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2016 Wrangler Sport S vs. 2016 Rubicon ?

Which would you buy and why? Looks like I can get a decent equipped Wrangler Sport S for about $30K, auto, power, hardtop, etc. at Dennis Dillion in Idaho. Or the local dealer will get me one for $32K invoice pricing.
I don't plan to off-road but the Rubicon is calling to me for the 430N GPS Nav radio, and a few other options, tires & rims, etc. but it's nearly $5K more or so. Thinking if I can get it for $35K it would be a pretty nice Jeep.
Problem is I'm trading a ultra nice, mint, low mileage Charger and a bare bones Jeep is loosing it's appeal quickly so the Rubicon looks good. Will the off road tires on the Rubicon give me a unpleasant ride compared to Wrangler tires? Will I notice much difference in ride quality? A test drive doesn't tell the long term story as you guys here who live with them daily. Looking for some answers as I'm at the Jeep dealer tomorrow

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Both my wife and I have 2015 jeep Rubicon's. My daughter has a 2014 sport jeep. I love the ride of the Rubicon. All I can say it put smiles on our faces. You will always think to yourself, should I've gotten the Rubicon....

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I have a 2013 Rubicon JKR, that currently has about 17,000 miles on it. We use it to commute back and forth to our cabin, up in the mountains. This is high speed mountain road driving.
It handles very well, and I am very pleased with the ride quality.

The Rubicon tire do make some noise, but minimal.

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Old 02-24-2016, 07:50 PM   #4
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A test drive should answer a lot of your questions

I took a Sahara and a rubicon for test drives mostly due to wanting to feel the differences in gearing.

I did notice a ride difference between the two. What stood out the most was what I told the salesman as tread squirm. The rubicon seemed to wiggle a bit more, just felt loose when going down the road

7,400 miles later, zero,regrets getting the rubicon hard rock

Many claim some aftermarket tires perform better in both noise and inn road manners. I wil cross that bridge once the oem tires are warn outl.
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why get a rubicon and the off-road package it features if you aren't taking it off-road? Seems silly to me. You can get a 430N take out for cheap. If you just want the Rubicon on your hood, you can buy that too...much cheaper than paying $5,000 extra for features you will never use. Consider how you are going to use the Jeep, not getting the "most expensive Jeep on the lot" JMO. I see far too many Mall crawlers and soccer moms buying Rubicons and don't know what and how lockers work
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I live in Boise... recently just bought a '12 JK Unlimited Sport. (Power eveything, Hardtop, etc) Already had a lift and off road tires. 36k miles and got it for $26k. I would consider a 2012-2015... you get more for your money and it is nearly the EXACT same Wrangler as the 2016... same engine, interior... everything. You are simply going to get more for your money. Now, the difference between a Sport and a Rubicon IMO are not enough to justify the price (for me at least). If you aren't planning on doing heavy off roading and worried about gear ratios, rear lockers, etc... then go with the Sport for SURE. You will then have some extra money to add the things you care about. I would throw some nicer, bigger tires on the Sport also. It will make it ride smoother and nicer overall. I have 33s and it rides SO nice. Not loud.
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What about the sahara? Its a daily with all the same equippement of the rubi but the off road stuff. If you dont need an electronic sway bar disconnect, both front and rear locking diff, 4:1 transfert case and 3.73(optional 4.10) gearing and mud terrain why would you pay for it?
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What about the sahara? Its a daily with all the same equippement of the rubi but the off road stuff. If you dont need an electronic sway bar disconnect, both front and rear locking diff, 4:1 transfert case and 3.73(optional 4.10) gearing and mud terrain why would you pay for it?
I would second that. The Sahara might be a good middle ground.
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I bought the Rubi bc it was factory-ready-to-go-anywhere. And resale is great, not that I'm selling in the next few decades. After buying one, I can say the ride is so good that I don't want to lift it for fear of ruining it. The advice on this site was: if your gonna go crazy with mods, get a Sport. If your not gonna do much to it, get the Rubi.

Love mine. Would do it all again the same. Mines a 2-door, but paid $34k.
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I bought the Rubi bc it was factory-ready-to-go-anywhere. And resale is great, not that I'm selling in the next few decades. After buying one, I can say the ride is so good that I don't want to lift it for fear of ruining it. The advice on this site was: if your gonna go crazy with mods, get a Sport. If your not gonna do much to it, get the Rubi. Love mine. Would do it all again the same. Mines a 2-door, but paid $34k.
I have a rubi and this is not a factory-ready-to-go-anywhere ist more a "ready to spend a lot lot lot to go anywhere" and the sport is a "daily drive that can be modified to be a mall crawler" but for the resale you're right!
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Honestly you say you're not going to offroad, but my guess is you'll eventually want to do it plus better resale value. I was in your same shoes, but for me the price was around $3k difference and for that I went with the Rubicon. I didn't go fully loaded with stereo because you can do much better then stock.
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Ok I'm gonna be the "Willys" guy and say,

Bro, get a Willys. Call it a Rubi-light. You get the off road tires with Rubi wheels in black, rubicon shocks, 3.73 and LSD. Gloss black grill, as well as both bumper centers. I was a first time Jeep buyer (although I never had a bad ass charger like that) and I'm very happy with mine.
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First I'll put in a plug for Dennis Dillon. In December I picked up a 2016 Rubicon that I had ordered. Bought a Ram 3500 Dually from them in 2012. Great experience - don't think you can find a cheaper price. They have a US map in the lounge pinned with their customer's location. Maine to Miami and obviously out west.

As for Rubi vs Sport.... I wouldn't let the radio play into that decision. I went base 130 without UConnect. Swapped out to Kickers, Kicker low profile sub, and a Pioneer AVH unit. Did it myself - little internet homework and it was very straightforward. And it's better and cheaper than the factory stuff. For us it's part-time driver and vacation mobile. When deciding whether to upgrade to a Rubi I called one of the tour operators in Moab and chatted for a few minutes. What stuck with me was when he said that having a rear locker was a "game changer". He could coach you with a Trac-Lok/LSD and a little braking over some of the obstacles. I weighed the options of going base and doing a local gear change/E locker...and all the way up to ordering an AEV built pimp mobile. Going Sport S and then lifting/bigger tires sort of cancelled out any savings. Going Base and throwing money at it appealed to me, but the more I looked into aftermarket locks/power windows....it seemed to be way too much hassle. We'll vacation in SW Colorado, do some less extreme trails in Moab, and explore Death Valley. Sport would have worked, but it's nice to have that capability/insurance. With the price the Dennis Dillon gave me and a modest amount of mods (AEV 3.5 w/35s and OEM bumpers), I could probably get out of it with minimal loss in a few years if we decide to do something different. Don't think we will - the wife kind of digs it and it fits nicely in the garage.

A Sport S w/LSD or Willy's might be a good choice if you don't plan on a lift/tire/wheel swap. Good luck with your decision.
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Ok I'm gonna be the "Willys" guy and say,

Bro, get a Willys. Call it a Rubi-light. You get the off road tires with Rubi wheels in black, rubicon shocks, 3.73 and LSD. Gloss black grill, as well as both bumper centers. I was a first time Jeep buyer (although I never had a bad ass charger like that) and I'm very happy with mine.
X2 on this, you want that more arresive look still with creature comforts willys is the way to go. My gf just got a 16 JKU willys and it's a nice Jeep out of the gate! She doesn't plan to offroad it crazy like I do my sport so the willys was an excellent choice for her

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I would go with this... local here in the Treasure Valley. 2013 Sahara Unlimited MOAB Edition. Get it for probably around $29k.

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Lot's of good feedback here, much appreciated everyone. I'll be at the dealer today and see what's there in Red. From this forum I've already learned that I need the 3.73 as I have a length of highway hills where I live.
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why get a rubicon and the off-road package it features if you aren't taking it off-road? Seems silly to me. You can get a 430N take out for cheap. If you just want the Rubicon on your hood, you can buy that too...much cheaper than paying $5,000 extra for features you will never use. Consider how you are going to use the Jeep, not getting the "most expensive Jeep on the lot" JMO. I see far too many Mall crawlers and soccer moms buying Rubicons and don't know what and how lockers work
Mall Crawling Rubicons are awesome for jeeping in the long run though. Once they are sold on the used market you can pick one up that hasn't been beat on. Its really hard to find a TJ Rubicon that isn't beatup.
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Looking for some answers as I'm at the Jeep dealer tomorrow
What did you end of looking at today?
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Thanks to everyone who provided me information on my Wrangler purchase. I went with a 2016 Wrangler Rubicon, auto, power, NAV, 3.73, brought it home today. MSRP $40,215, bought it for $36.5 which was actually under the invoice of $$37,953. It probably helped that I had a awesome trade in vehicle. No regrets on passing on a Wrangler Sport S.



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