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Old 04-02-2017, 03:52 PM   #751
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Thanks. The plastic material for the LED appears harder versus the halogen plastic bucket which feels softer. This explains why the halogen bucket gets destroyed so easily when you pull it out with force, and I remember another user mentioning he was able to pull out his LED easily without damaging it.

For the beam spots I was thinking the same with the passenger headlight appears to be to the left a bit. I acquired some adjustment screws earlier and will try to install it tonight. Hopefully my flathead technique (patent pending) shines through again.
Excellent. Do you have a source or link where you got the adjuster screws? Odd that Jeep took away the ability to adjust horizontal, as I thought earlier models had that ability.

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Completed my install today, definitely a lot easier then I thought. Since these were takeoffs I had to do a little fabrication to get them to sit perfect due to a slight broken tab on the lights.

The headlights has a very slight flicker, barely noticeable unless you stare at the light. Depending on what my local dealer charges for sales code flash, I still do have a set of anti flicker plugs ready to go in.
Now as far as the fogs, they definitely needed the anti flicker plugs, it was a strobe light effect once the Jeep turned on.

I picked up my set of headlights from RubiTrux at a really great price since they were takeoffs. The fogs were bought from a member on here for a good price also.
I highly recommend this upgrade for anyone still considering especially if you can get a set of takeoffs cheaper then new.




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Excellent. Do you have a source or link where you got the adjuster screws? Odd that Jeep took away the ability to adjust horizontal, as I thought earlier models had that ability.
I got my lights properly aligned now and all I had to do was adjust the vertical alignment since I remembered changing it with my previous aftermarkets.

Also, I like the wider beam spread so I can see the area I am turning into.

As for the adjustment screws I picked them up from the local dealership parts dept while I was getting the flash done. $2.50/each (part 55078114AA). Be extra careful when you install the adjustment screw and not overtorque it since the plastic mount material is soft so can be easily stripped.
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Great news on the new LED headlights and flash into your 2016. Unfortunately, most dealerships are uninformed but can follow direction. Like that QT will price match these mopar vendors.

What was the end result with the Mopar LED fogs and using the Uni-balance adapters? Not sure how they will solve the flicker issue.
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Great news on the new LED headlights and flash into your 2016. Unfortunately, most dealerships are uninformed but can follow direction. Like that QT will price match these mopar vendors.



What was the end result with the Mopar LED fogs and using the Uni-balance adapters? Not sure how they will solve the flicker issue.


The Uni-balance adapters worked perfect for my led fogs. The only issue I found was the plug didn't seat well on the fog lights but I already had the correct factory plugs, I just cut and install them.


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I got my lights properly aligned now and all I had to do was adjust the vertical alignment since I remembered changing it with my previous aftermarkets.

Also, I like the wider beam spread so I can see the area I am turning into.

As for the adjustment screws I picked them up from the local dealership parts dept while I was getting the flash done. $2.50/each (part 55078114AA). Be extra careful when you install the adjustment screw and not overtorque it since the plastic mount material is soft so can be easily stripped.
Thanks for the part number and torque warning, but in the end maybe you didn't need the horizontal adjusters since you just adjusted vertical. But still may be good to install once the halogens are out regardless. I remember seeing a youtube on installing those adjusters, so I will check into that.
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I too picked up my "Take-offs" from Rubitrux. While not as good-a-deal as one other member here, it was SERIOUSLY better than ANY OTHER DEAL out there on LED headlights and, they are what I consider to be, (without massive testing on multiple sets) the best ones going. But, after the install and initial night time drive, I DEFINITELY need horizontal adjustment.

MY lows are basically fine but, the highs aim way too close together. So, a few bucks worth of adjustment screws and some finite adjusting should render me the PERFECT headlight upgrade, for a fraction of the cost of the same ones new from a dealer or, just about any other source.
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If there is a particularly good youtube video on the installation of the MOPAR#55078114aa adjuster screws, it would be great if someone could post the URL... I was able to find one video but it wasn't great...
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I too picked up my "Take-offs" from Rubitrux. While not as good-a-deal as one other member here, it was SERIOUSLY better than ANY OTHER DEAL out there on LED headlights and, they are what I consider to be, (without massive testing on multiple sets) the best ones going. But, after the install and initial night time drive, I DEFINITELY need horizontal adjustment.

MY lows are basically fine but, the highs aim way too close together. So, a few bucks worth of adjustment screws and some finite adjusting should render me the PERFECT headlight upgrade, for a fraction of the cost of the same ones new from a dealer or, just about any other source.
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Now that you need to remove the headlights to put in horozontal adjuster screws, let us know if you find some good technique to remove them without breaking those plastic fasteners on the light. I think someone used a little grease or KY on that tight area to allow some slippage when removing them.

No video on the screw install, but I found this:
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/wh...t-1537954.html
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Now that you need to remove the headlights to put in horozontal adjuster screws, let us know if you find some good technique to remove them without breaking those plastic fasteners on the light. I think someone used a little grease or KY on that tight area to allow some slippage when removing them.

No video on the screw install, but I found this:
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/wh...t-1537954.html
It was me that used a tad bit of grease on those mounting studs. I didn't CAKE it on, just a small amount to ease the install and if needed, the removal. At least on mine, it works absolutely slick, (no pun intended). I've had them off and back on, at least three times and the mounting tabs are as nice as when I purchased the lights. When I push them into place, I give them a slight tug to see if the grease will allow them to just "drift" off the mounting studs, AIN'T HAPPENING! They're on there 'till I yank on them. And when I do, they zip right off.

Installing the adjusting screw is about as basic as it gets. It's pretty easy to take a piece of wire, anything, and measure the distance from the surface where the mounting stud bottoms out, to the groove in the mounting stud that the headlight bucket mounting tabs ride in. Then, remove the head light, remove the mounting stud and, insert the adjustment screw. Screw it in 'till the groove in it is as the same depth as the mounting stud screw was.

That will give you a very, very close place to start your adjustment at. Not much will be needed to get proper alignment if that method is used. Good luck.
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Dead duck on the UNI-balance foglight af on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MDV0AJ5...vert-amazon-20

First thing I noticed was the connectors were pretty cheap and are not a perfect fit so the don't snap in. When I turned on the engine, the led fogs seem to work with no flicker. Then after about 20 seconds, the passenger side started to flicker about every 15 seconds. Must be a bad af out of the pair. I'm not going to try and keep changing out the af instead I'll just have to try to get some quality ones if anyone else has any suggestions?
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Hey denki I'm going to try these https://headlightrevolution.com/head...ed-fog-lights/

But before I do I can use yalls help. I bought these from my dealer 68304048AA and 68304049AA. These are the single bracket leds for the 10a 75th anniversary bumper. My dealer cannot find the part number for the regular LED housing for a standard bumper. I.e. Sport,Sahara,rubicon.

This part number 683040489 is not a valid mopar number. Those who got this from rubitrix or even from dealer can you take a picture of your mopar box and post.

I have the ones on the left but I need a true mopar # as pictured on the right.

Also I'll probably be selling my 2 fogs ( bought new in box $200) soon if anyone's interested in the Dallas area.
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Well gang,
Just for grins, I stopped in a San Diego dealer to pickup some headlight adjusting screws, (a whopping $5.80 for the pair) and, while there, I cruised on over to the service department and asked about the "flash" that we've all been talking about. Well, the one service writer quoted me "$130.00 and two hours work". I said "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat"??? I told him that flash should take no more than 10 minutes. He replied "yeah but we need to make sure that it all works well before we let it go".
So that's the story there. I think I'll just put up with the flicker (and it's a very, VERY slight flicker at that) for a while.

And speaking of that, it sure appears that many, many of the so-called Anti-flicker harness's out there seem TO FAIL after a while. Some, like the ones that came with some LED headlights I recently purchased from a member here, failed within about 1 hour of install. There are reports that there are some that have been working for over a year or so. What's with these manufacturers, don't they have a clue as to how to make something that lasts?
Is there a way to make them yourself? I've heard of "Capacitors" but, not being an electrical wizard, I'd have to do a ton of research to find out how to build some myself.
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love the lights and ill be looking for a pair to buy. they look great.
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68307273AA x 2 for the standard (MBA sales code) front bumper LED fogs
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I hope you left a spot to get to that when they burn out because you may get 2 or 3 months out of them. I am on my 4th replacement set of those. I would not recommend those units. If your going to use anti-flickers I'd buy the trucklite ones, I have a set on the way to me so as soon as this 4th replacement set burns out I'll have something more reliable. I am not running the 2017 led Headlights but a different set but I would imagine they will work just as crappy hooked up to any led Headlights
We shall see. $12 didn't hurt too bad if so. Also, its not too hard to get to these WITHOUT removing the headlight. You can loosen the power steering reservoir to get to the passenger.
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A couple of updates guys.

I ordered the anti flicker from headlight revolution and spoke with Anthony there who said if this works for our application he should be able to give a price break for everyone thats interested in purchasing it. I'm shooting for $49 shipped. 1 year warranty, easy support. The business is located in Minnesota.
These were designed to be a high quality solution to work for the JW fogs so if it works good for them it should work good for the Mopars.

https://headlightrevolution.com/head...ed-fog-lights/

The dealership that Denkigroove and I bought our headlights and fogs is looking into getting a wrangler club discount that can be used for all Jeep/Mopar parts. Hopefully I'll be able to post something on this soon.

I should receive my antiflickers by mid next week and will hopefully have a consensus if we have a good working solution.
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A couple of updates guys.

I ordered the anti flicker from headlight revolution and spoke with Anthony there who said if this works for our application he should be able to give a price break for everyone thats interested in purchasing it. I'm shooting for $49 shipped. 1 year warranty, easy support. The business is located in Minnesota.
These were designed to be a high quality solution to work for the JW fogs so if it works good for them it should work good for the Mopars.

https://headlightrevolution.com/head...ed-fog-lights/

The dealership that Denkigroove and I bought our headlights and fogs is looking into getting a wrangler club discount that can be used for all Jeep/Mopar parts. Hopefully I'll be able to post something on this soon.

I should receive my antiflickers by mid next week and will hopefully have a consensus if we have a good working solution.
I would be onboard for a pair. Can you let me know the delay amount in seconds when going from hi beam to low beam with these?
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'No Flicker' Mopar 8221433AB

Saw them listed for as low as $650 (free shipping) on E bay
and can attest to the fact that they don't 'flicker' while being
a simple plug and play requiring no add on's. Personally I prefer
the black 'surround' look and as Quadratec states, there are no
better ones on the market. They needed no adjustment of any kind
on my 2016 Sahara and, according to the Jeep service people I've
spoken to, Jeep should have stayed with these for their 2017 models.
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I would be onboard for a pair. Can you let me know the delay amount in seconds when going from hi beam to low beam with these?
To clarify, Vaunswa was referring to getting the af for the led FOG lights from Headlight Revolution and not for the headlight that you are referring to for the delay. They seem to be the only other brand (besides the one on amazon that didn't work for me) that offers an af with the correct harness adapters (5202/H16) for the fogs rather than having to buy extra adapters to convert.

As for the delay question on the headlight switching from low to high beam and vice versa, the 5SX flash on my 2016 did not only resolved the headlight flicker, but also it did not have any delay whatsoever. The switch from low to high and back were instantaneous.

Hope that helps.
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I got my lights properly aligned now and all I had to do was adjust the vertical alignment since I remembered changing it with my previous aftermarkets.

Also, I like the wider beam spread so I can see the area I am turning into.

As for the adjustment screws I picked them up from the local dealership parts dept while I was getting the flash done. $2.50/each (part 55078114AA). Be extra careful when you install the adjustment screw and not overtorque it since the plastic mount material is soft so can be easily stripped.
Maybe dumb ass question, but for the horizontal screws, would I just need one horizontal screw for each headlight?
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Maybe dumb ass question, but for the horizontal screws, would I just need one horizontal screw for each headlight?
Yes, just one additional for each side. 7 o'clock on driver and 4 o'clock on the passenger side. I highly recommend installing it if you can do it before installing the led headlight. Just install to the same length as original one it replaced as a good starting point.

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I have a brand new pair of adjustment screws just waiting to be installed. I will do that tomorrow. It sure seems odd to me that some folks are experiencing this "delay" between hi and low and vice versa but, again, as I stated a few posts back, my lows stay on when I go to high. And, when I come back to low, they're already on so, there is ZERO delay. The lights I'm using ARE the 2017 OEM LEDs on a 2015 JKUR. Not a clue why the lows remain ON while on high beam. It's alright with me though.
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I have a brand new pair of adjustment screws just waiting to be installed. I will do that tomorrow. It sure seems odd to me that some folks are experiencing this "delay" between hi and low and vice versa but, again, as I stated a few posts back, my lows stay on when I go to high. And, when I come back to low, they're already on so, there is ZERO delay. The lights I'm using ARE the 2017 OEM LEDs on a 2015 JKUR. Not a clue why the lows remain ON while on high beam. It's alright with me though.
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The delay is the high beams going off. When I tested mine prior to the flash, and with the AF harness hooked up, when I went from low to high there was no delay. But going from high to low there was about 2 seconds where the high beam stayed on.

I also had a delay without the AF harness prior to the flash of about 1 second. After the flash, no issues at all.
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I have a brand new pair of adjustment screws just waiting to be installed. I will do that tomorrow. It sure seems odd to me that some folks are experiencing this "delay" between hi and low and vice versa but, again, as I stated a few posts back, my lows stay on when I go to high. And, when I come back to low, they're already on so, there is ZERO delay. The lights I'm using ARE the 2017 OEM LEDs on a 2015 JKUR. Not a clue why the lows remain ON while on high beam. It's alright with me though.
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Thanks for the photos above, that really helps. Interesting how the small threads take to the plastic considering the large threads of the original non adjusting screw. About the high/low beam operation, maybe these LED are meant to function with the lows on all the time regardless whether in high or low? I asked that question before and I believe someone said there is some slight delay when switching, but there was never a point at which there was no light (I suppose that meant the lows are always on).
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Thanks for the photos above, that really helps. Interesting how the small threads take to the plastic considering the large threads of the original non adjusting screw. About the high/low beam operation, maybe these LED are meant to function with the lows on all the time regardless whether in high or low? I asked that question before and I believe someone said there is some slight delay when switching, but there was never a point at which there was no light (I suppose that meant the lows are always on).
While it was not me who linked the photos, I too appreciate them. In just a few minutes, I'll be heading out to the man cave to install my adjustment screws. As stated earlier, I won't need much adjustment, just enough to spread the highs out a little.
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While it was not me who linked the photos, I too appreciate them. In just a few minutes, I'll be heading out to the man cave to install my adjustment screws. As stated earlier, I won't need much adjustment, just enough to spread the highs out a little.
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Can you adjust with grill in place? On my 2016 it kind of looks like there is a place to insert (I believe 15 Torx).
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Can you adjust with grill in place? On my 2016 it kind of looks like there is a place to insert (I believe 15 Torx).
Yep. The headlight area of the grill has an indention notches that gives access to the adjustment screws at the 11/4 o'oclock on passengers and 2/7 o'clock on the drivers side.



I find it weird that there were already notches there for the horizontal screws although the factory did not install it? So maybe someone in finance dept decided to cut costs by saving a whopping $5/vehicle for this cost cutting piece. Pat on the back to the analyst who came up with that.

Btw, I recommend getting an individual t15 torx screwdriver to make it easier to fit in that notch for the adjustment. Trying to use the adapter and torx bit is too large and can risk scratching up that area with a bad angle as well.
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Yep. The headlight area of the grill has an indention notches that gives access to the adjustment screws at the 11/4 o'oclock on passengers and 2/7 o'clock on the drivers side.



I find it weird that there were already notches there for the horizontal screws although the factory did not install it? So maybe someone in finance dept decided to cut costs by saving a whopping $5/vehicle for this cost cutting piece. Pat on the back to the analyst who came up with that.

Btw, I recommend getting an individual t15 torx screwdriver to make it easier to fit in that notch for the adjustment. Trying to use the adapter and torx bit is too large and can risk scratching up that area with a bad angle as well.
Today's vehicle manufacturers are ever increasing their prices as we move along. The vehicles are getting better and better. But, that's not to say they're not "cutting corners" when and where ever they can. By manufacturing the front end, core support, headlight assemblies and install components to a tighter tolerance, they can eliminate at least one of the adjustments on the headlights. The horizontal is the easiest to eliminate since there's very little need for it based on the way the Jeep is made.

But, it's not that easy to eliminate the vertical adjustment. There are too many variables to design and fit, a constant setting. Different springs, spring rates, tires, wheel sizes, hard tops, soft tops and much more, will dictate the way a Jeep sits. So, hence the need for a vertical adjustment.

Based on my observation and, some you-tube videos out there, one can utilize the inboard mounting studs as horizontal adjustment screws. But, it's a pain in the a$$. I could have adapted the already installed mounting studs to be more easily utilized by simply removing them, using a dremmel or air die-grinder and cutting a slot for a regular screw driver to fit in the tip. It would be an easy alteration but, I figured, what the heck, a short stop by a dealer and a whopping $5.50 or so for a couple of factory torx adjusting screws and, I'm home free.

Mine are in and, all I need is nightfall for some quick adjustment. And yes, it is waaaaaaay better if you have a dedicated #15 torx for the job. An old high school auto shop teaher taught me a few decades ago, "use the right tool, for the right job".
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