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Old 07-25-2017, 06:44 PM   #31
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Like the tires you have enough to go an extra 10,000 miles, do 5. Not sure do 4.

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Like the tires and want better tread throughout, do 5 and can still sell before used up.

I really like the km2 tires I have, though not sure if I want the same in 40,000+ miles. So I prob get a cheap spare so I only have to wait to 40,000 miles to get fresh tires.

Most ideal, do 5 and sell when you want. Then get 5 fresh tires and do 5.

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you paid for 5 tires, might as well use them all

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I do 5. In fact just rotated mine today. Do it myself in the garage. I do mine every 3000 miles. Everyone says you get better tire wear and life doing it between 3-5k miles.
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I'm going with 4. That way in a couple of years I will buy 3 new, put the best of the 4 as the spare and then use the new spare with the other 3 new tires. Then the following time I'll buy 5 new tires.
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I'm going with 4. That way in a couple of years I will buy 3 new, put the best of the 4 as the spare and then use the new spare with the other 3 new tires. Then the following time I'll buy 5 new tires.
Clever. At least until you see another set of tires you like. Lol

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Thanks to all for the input. I went ahead with the 5, and they did the rotation posted by another user in this thread.

I like my MT's and figure I might as well get as much mileage out of them as possible.
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Thanks to all for the input. I went ahead with the 5, and they did the rotation posted by another user in this thread.

I like my MT's and figure I might as well get as much mileage out of them as possible.
I pulled mine at about 45,000 and I'd say they had (at least) another 10-15,000 left in them (of good tread - more to the bars).
Honestly, they were great tires IMO.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:06 PM   #38
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5 tire rotation here. I spent money on the spare so I use it.
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The shop where I bought my tires gives me free rotations every 5K miles. I told them I wanted 5-tire rotation the first time I went in for it. The guy there says to put the spare on the front because it is slightly larger than the others and will put less wear on the un-powered differential.

I figure you guys are the Pros From Dover, here. What say you? Is this guy giving me a load of balloon juice?
Interesting theory - there's definitely logic to it, but it seems to fly in the face of the recommendations for how to do 5 tire rotation for 4WD/RWD vs FWD.
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5 tire rotation every 3000 miles with my 37s...

They've been running on my Jeep(s) since Dec of 2012, well over 50,000 miles.
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5 tire rotation used to be the norm until they started putting the "donuts" in the trunks of cars. Then dealers thought it was fine to do 4 way on Jeeps (or anything else with a full size spare). Of course they didn't lower the price for one less tire but I've had some try and charge me more for putting the spare in the mix.
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Hereís my situation. I boiught my 2016 JKU WW in January with 26500 on the clock. The rear tires were worn pretty bad fronts still had 50%. The spare has never sent th road. I got the dealer to replace the rear two and now that Iíve got 30700 miles On the clock Iíd like to do a tire roatation. My question is do I throw the spare in the mix or would it be too much tread compared to the current front tires?

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5 tire rotation every oil change, 5K miles.
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Here’s my situation. I boiught my 2016 JKU WW in January with 26500 on the clock. The rear tires were worn pretty bad fronts still had 50%. The spare has never sent th road. I got the dealer to replace the rear two and now that I’ve got 30700 miles On the clock I’d like to do a tire roatation. My question is do I throw the spare in the mix or would it be too much tread compared to the current front tires?

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If the difference in tread was going to cause a problem if you used the spare, what good is the spare?
I would throw the spare into the mix at the earliest time possible. Having five evenly worn tires is surely the best case scenario. But having four worn and one like new, or in your case two half worn and three like new, should not cause a problem. The sooner you get the spare into the rotation the better, in my opinion. But some people here never put the spare into rotation. I never hear from them that they needed to use their spare and it caused problems. So I think you should be fine. Putting the spare into the rotation will get you more miles out of a given set of tires. But it does mean you will always have to buy 5 tires when you replace them.
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I like a 5 tire rotation as its easier...no need to use jack stands. It lets you just change one tire at a time on the vehicle.

I also don't like to keep old spare tires as the ozone eat's the rubber and they crack. It's safer to keep a good spare.

The last reason is I like all my tires to match(I know, I'm anal that way). Using all 5 allows me the flexibility to change tire make and model and/or size without wasting perfectly good tires.
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I'm doing all 5 every 5,000 at the same time I change my oil. Simple strokes for simple folks.

When the stocks wear down, I'm moving up to 33s but sticking with MTs. Will start rotating every 3,000. I'll probably have to put up a chart in the garage to keep track. Not looking forward to it.
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I'm doing all 5 every 5,000 at the same time I change my oil. Simple strokes for simple folks.



When the stocks wear down, I'm moving up to 33s but sticking with MTs. Will start rotating every 3,000. I'll probably have to put up a chart in the garage to keep track. Not looking forward to it.


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I like a 5 tire rotation as its easier...no need to use jack stands. It lets you just change one tire at a time on the vehicle.

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It's not easier. It requires about the same amount of time either way

I can do a 4 tire rotation (with jack stands) in about the same time as a 5 without jack stands... and that includes the time it takes to set up the stands.

Sure... it takes a bit of extra time to set up the stands but once that's done it works as fast and sleek as a factory production line.
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It's not easier. It requires about the same amount of time either way

I can do a 4 tire rotation (with jack stands) in about the same time as a 5 without jack stands... and that includes the time it takes to set up the stands.

Sure... it takes a bit of extra time to set up the stands but once that's done it works as fast and sleek as a factory production line.

I'm no netcar speed guy in anything I do...and I wouldn't argue how quickly one way is versus the other either. I just personally think its easier to do one tire at a time and not get the jack stands out to do the job (that's just me).
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5 tires - rotate them. Simple
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Another 5 tire guy. Keeps all the tires the same or close to it.

For what i sent to have 5 tires the same size, I'm using all of them.
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Another 5 tire guy. Keeps all the tires the same or close to it.

For what i sent to have 5 tires the same size, I'm using all of them.
Got a good question. I had a bogus alignment when I got new tire last NOV and at 4500 it chewed the front tires from new 19 to 12 and 15 thread depth. Back tires went from 19 to 18. Got a new spare in MAR and put on back right for the normal 5 tire rotation. Taking one of the chewed tires out and on cargo door.

So now I am at 4500 and ready for rotation and my thought was switch the two chewed tires back and forth in the same, rotation spot, so the newer tires catch up with the two chewed ones. Then I thought it would better to switch those two chewed tires with each other at every 2 rotations so each tire would have been on the back and front between switching the tire out with the other chewed tire.

Now I thought of, that would be good for having each of the 2 chewed tires to be o back and front each 2 rotations. Then I though of this. Doing it that way would be good so each tire get north and south direction in those 2 rotations, but then doing that way, each chewed tire would always be on the left or right.

Is that as important or doesnít matter, unless you drive crazy around corners to the point your front right always has a little less air in it.

Doing switch every 2 rotations is good for back and front for a north and south direction for both of the 2 chewed tires but should I just switch these 2 chewed tires with each other, every 4 rotations so the also see left side and right side two times each.

Does that matter as much.

I would do 5 rotation but after the brand new tires got chewed in front I left with this way, to get them close to each other, then go with normal 5 way.
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I got 53,000 miles out of the stock tires doing a 5 tire rotation, and easily could have gotten another 5,000.

5 all the way!
I do my own oil changes, but let my tire guy handle tire rotations. I've got spacers that I like him to torque down.
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I've got 75,000+ on my original Rubicon MTs... And still counting. I do 5 tire.
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No rotation. I hate those MF'n tires.
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Got a good question. I had a bogus alignment when I got new tire last NOV and at 4500 it chewed the front tires from new 19 to 12 and 15 thread depth. Back tires went from 19 to 18. Got a new spare in MAR and put on back right for the normal 5 tire rotation. Taking one of the chewed tires out and on cargo door.

So now I am at 4500 and ready for rotation and my thought was switch the two chewed tires back and forth in the same, rotation spot, so the newer tires catch up with the two chewed ones. Then I thought it would better to switch those two chewed tires with each other at every 2 rotations so each tire would have been on the back and front between switching the tire out with the other chewed tire.

Now I thought of, that would be good for having each of the 2 chewed tires to be o back and front each 2 rotations. Then I though of this. Doing it that way would be good so each tire get north and south direction in those 2 rotations, but then doing that way, each chewed tire would always be on the left or right.

Is that as important or doesn’t matter, unless you drive crazy around corners to the point your front right always has a little less air in it.

Doing switch every 2 rotations is good for back and front for a north and south direction for both of the 2 chewed tires but should I just switch these 2 chewed tires with each other, every 4 rotations so the also see left side and right side two times each.

Does that matter as much.

I would do 5 rotation but after the brand new tires got chewed in front I left with this way, to get them close to each other, then go with normal 5 way.

Well, first I would say a 5 tire rotation is not "normal".

"Normal" is 4 tire rotation, if you want 5 you would have to ask for it at most service depots because they just do the REAL normal if not asked


Second, if you're switching wheels so that new ones "catch up" to the old ones I would say you're defeating the purpose of new tires and whole idea of tire rotation. Get a proper alignment so that you actually CAN'T "catch up" because that's not what tire rotation is about.
Tire rotations are about keeping tread wear even across the tread of the tire, and not about getting new tires to catch up to the old ones


People get caught up in this idea that tire rotations are about keeping the tread wear between all tires the same. That's just not possible as you have just illustrated. All you need to do is chew up/replace one tire and you have blown that concept out of the water.


Tire rotations are more about keeping the tread wear even across ONE TIRE so you maximize the life of THAT TIRE. Tires don't wear out evenly across the tread when left in one position for the life of the tire. The inner or outer or middle part, (or even cupping or some other strange wear pattern) of the tread wears out first depending on your alignment and position of the wheel. This is exactly why a specific tire rotation pattern is set up.... to give a specific tire the opportunity towards multiple positions so the wear is spread out as evenly as possible across the entire tread thereby extending the life of THAT TIRE to its maximum.


Don't be a gofer and get caught up in this 'keeping all tires the same' rubbish. It's not really what rotations are about. As you have just illustrated in your own words and example.... it's not possible.


Rotations are about tires on an individual level, it's not about 4 or 5 tires as a group.
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Well, first I would say a 5 tire rotation is not "normal".

"Normal" is 4 tire rotation, if you want 5 you would have to ask for it at most service depots because they just do the REAL normal if not asked


Second, if you're switching wheels so that new ones "catch up" to the old ones I would say you're defeating the purpose of new tires and whole idea of tire rotation. Get a proper alignment so that you actually CAN'T "catch up" because that's not what tire rotation is about.
Tire rotations are about keeping tread wear even across the tread of the tire, and not about getting new tires to catch up to the old ones


People get caught up in this idea that tire rotations are about keeping the tread wear between all tires the same. That's just not possible as you have just illustrated. All you need to do is chew up/replace one tire and you have blown that concept out of the water.


Tire rotations are more about keeping the tread wear even across ONE TIRE so you maximize the life of THAT TIRE. Tires don't wear out evenly across the tread when left in one position for the life of the tire. The inner or outer or middle part, (or even cupping or some other strange wear pattern) of the tread wears out first depending on your alignment and position of the wheel. This is exactly why a specific tire rotation pattern is set up.... to give a specific tire the opportunity towards multiple positions so the wear is spread out as evenly as possible across the entire tread thereby extending the life of THAT TIRE to its maximum.


Don't be a gofer and get caught up in this 'keeping all tires the same' rubbish. It's not really what rotations are about. As you have just illustrated in your own words and example.... it's not possible.


Rotations are about tires on an individual level, it's not about 4 or 5 tires as a group.
Thanks that is good to go by.

The 4 tires were brand new in NOV and spare was brand new in APR, two fronts got chewed because of bad alignment. I got alignment in APR, after first 4500 miles, when I got spare tire.

So by what your saying I could do the two chewed tires, one at a time in the 4 locations, 4 rotations. The switch that tire with other chewed tires for rotations 5-8. That way the two chewed tires get 4500 miles on each of the 4 spots, so they get as even wear as possible, even though they already started to cup in first 4500 miles.

Since alignment, miles 4500-9000, the tires have even wear and the chewed tire evened out better for where it was at 4500 miles. The tires that wore evenly in first 4500 miles were in front after starting on the back and wore 2 tread depth. Looks like with a good alignment the fronts wear 2 and backs wear 1 thread depth every 4500 miles.

Now I ready for 2nd rotation. So I just keep the same chewed tire in rotation, do a normal 4 tire rotation.

I am going to need an alignment every 6 mths it looks like because itís starting to pull more to the left. Alignment was done in APR and itís not even OCT yet.

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