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Old 11-12-2012, 06:27 PM
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About those wheel spacers...

I realize that wheel spacers aren't universally loved on this Forum; however, many seem to use them without any problems. The thing is, I'd like to keep my JKUR wheels and just get some bigger tires (right now, DT 315/70R17 are my faves), along with a 2.5" coil lift (most likely TeraFlex.)

I actually happen to like the new Rubi wheels, but also realize that their backspacing is crap for wider tires. Unfortunately, my preferred tire vendor (Discount Tire Co.) has told me that they won't work on Jeeps with wheel spacers (due to "safety concerns"), so I might have to come up with another solution. Even if I just install 1.5" spacers and order the tires for home delivery, I can't mount and balance them on the stock rims myself.

So, long story short, how have those of you with wheel spacers managed this issue? Should I just look for another tire shop that's less concerned about liability? Would appreciate any input; thanks in advance!

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I realize that wheel spacers aren't universally loved on this Forum; however, many seem to use them without any problems. The thing is, I'd like to keep my JKUR wheels and just get some bigger tires (right now, DT 315/70R17 are my faves), along with a 2.5" coil lift (most likely TeraFlex.)

I actually happen to like the new Rubi wheels, but also realize that their backspacing is crap for wider tires. Unfortunately, my preferred tire vendor (Discount Tire Co.) has told me that they won't work on Jeeps with wheel spacers (due to "safety concerns"), so I might have to come up with another solution. Even if I just install 1.5" spacers and order the tires for home delivery, I can't mount and balance them on the stock rims myself.

So, long story short, how have those of you with wheel spacers managed this issue? Should I just look for another tire shop that's less concerned about liability? Would appreciate any input; thanks in advance!
I'll be monitoring this thread for answers as I am in the same boat now.

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Just find a local shop to do the mount and balance for you.

I'm on the fence right now between new wheels or keeping the stock Rubi wheels. I have the 1.5" spacers but haven't installed them yet. Waiting until I do the lift and then I'll decide.
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There is no issues with running quality spacers. No different then wheels with less backspacing as far as stresses on the balljoints/bearings/etc.
Make sure they are torqued to spec and check periodically.

Many people run them and have 0 problems. Some temporary and some for a long time.
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I know it's a little more expensive but with cost of spacers running between $100-$150 a pair. Wouldn't it be better to wait and save and get the rims. I have stock rims and this is the road I'm thinking of
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I know it's a little more expensive but with cost of spacers running between $100-$150 a pair. Wouldn't it be better to wait and save and get the rims. I have stock rims and this is the road I'm thinking of
5 rims mounted and balanced will run way more then 200 for 2 pairs of spydertrax
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5 rims mounted and balanced will run way more then 200 for 2 pairs of spydertrax
I agree but if you look on kijiji you can sometimes pick up a good deal on rims that may already have tires on them. Just a thought
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5 rims mounted and balanced will run way more then 200 for 2 pairs of spydertrax
Exactly! The nicer rims (AEV, Rugged Ridge, etc.) are about $200 each, so the real comparison is between spending $1,000+ on 5 wheels vs. $200 for 2 sets of spacers!
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Exactly! The nicer rims (AEV, Rugged Ridge, etc.) are about $200 each, so the real comparison is between spending $1,000+ on 5 wheels vs. $200 for 2 sets of spacers!
You could also sell your tires and rims to help offset the cost
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You could also sell your tires and rims to help offset the cost

Along with the 4,000 other people in your local craigslist community!
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There is no issues with running quality spacers. No different then wheels with less backspacing as far as stresses on the balljoints/bearings/etc.
Make sure they are torqued to spec and check periodically.

Many people run them and have 0 problems. Some temporary and some for a long time.
Yeah, that's what I thought. The local Discount Tire guy I spoke with today said that spacers make it impossible to properly torque the wheels down as they reduce the useable length of the wheel studs...

Anyway, I'll look forward to hearing more about this issue...
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Yeah, that's what I thought. The local Discount Tire guy I spoke with today said that spacers make it impossible to properly torque the wheels down as they reduce the useable length of the wheel studs...

Anyway, I'll look forward to hearing more about this issue...
Pretty sure they create a new stud. The spacer has studs on it and bolts to the current studs. You should still have the same length of stud

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Along with the 4,000 other people in your local craigslist community!
Yeah the market is kind of flooded isn't it. All I know is what I've heard. Some people have no problems running spacers and some people do. Guess it depends on quality and how you're going to use your rig. But I haven't heard anyone complain about properly backspace rims.
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Along with the 4,000 other people in your local craigslist community!
I see what you did here lol
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Pretty sure they create a new stud. The spacer has studs on it and bolts to the current studs. You should still have the same length of stud

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Yeah the market is kind of flooded isn't it. All I know is what I've heard. Some people have no problems running spacers and some people do. Guess it depends on quality and how you're going to use your rig. But I haven't heard anyone complain about properly backspace rims.
OK mackdj1, it's time to back off a little bit. It appears you are essentially arguing with a group here who is looking for some input you are not able to provide.

I'll add that I am also monitoring this thread with an interest in the same approach as the OP to adding bigger tires; I like the wheels that came with my rig and they are not negotiable.
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Your local Kauffman tire, Goodyear, wal-mart, son on and so forth will do the tires for you. I used Kauffman and they even mounted the spacers for me while they were in there. I have been running wheel spacers for a couple of years and they are the cheaper eBay brand with no problems. Just make sure they are torqued and that your tires are balanced and you won't have any added distress to your drivetrain.
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Yeah the market is kind of flooded isn't it.

Just a little!


In my area its fun to watch people post their wheels online for $1500... and then see how many days it takes them to sell them for $350. LOL!

You can watch the prices fall nearly daily because there are so many of them for sale.
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I know! There are 3 sets of 2013 Rubi wheels & tires on the Dallas CL right now, ranging from $1,100 to $1,450 in asking price. Have been listed for a while, too... Guess there aren't too many takers at that price...
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I know! There are 3 sets of 2013 Rubi wheels & tires on the Dallas CL right now, ranging from $1,100 to $1,450 in asking price. Have been listed for a while, too... Guess there aren't too many takers at that price...

Its Texas... land of big trucks and even bigger tires! Especially up there. I didn't realize how 'rural' Dallas/Fort Worth was until I moved to Houston 6 months ago. Hell, you have to drive 3 hours here just to see a head of livestock.
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I did exactly what you are proposing. Bought 35" Toyo M/Ts online and took them and the stock Rubicon wheels to my local independent tire store to have them mounted and balanced. I installed them on the Jeep along with Spidertrax wheel spacers and used plenty of Locktite along with a quality torque wrench. Couldn't be happier.

If you check tirerack.com they have a list of tire shops in your area by zip code that will mount and balance mail order tires. I'd use that list and call them till you find one that will do what you need done.
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I have been running Spyder Traxs for about six months with no problems. Waiting on the new rims and got a few more months out of the tires.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. The local Discount Tire guy I spoke with today said that spacers make it impossible to properly torque the wheels down as they reduce the useable length of the wheel studs...

Anyway, I'll look forward to hearing more about this issue...
I ran spacers/adapters on my TJ for 6 six years with no problems.

Regarding the tire guy saying the spacers leave the studs too short: the Spidertrax and others we use are more correctly named adapters. Spacers just slip on your existing studs to push the rim out a little (leaving your studs too short). Putting on a heavy duty aluminum wheel that's much thicker than your stock wheel would cause the same problem. Adapters mount to the hub and then have their own separate set of studs sticking out for mounting the wheel. They can be either the same bolt pattern (as in your case) or different bolt patterns (like going from 5 on 4.5 to 5 on 5). As long as the adapters are good quality and mounted/torqued correctly, there's really no difference between these and wheels with more offset.

This may not change your tire guy's answer, but it should! He's basing his answer on something you're not doing.

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OK mackdj1, it's time to back off a little bit. It appears you are essentially arguing with a group here who is looking for some input you are not able to provide.

I'll add that I am also monitoring this thread with an interest in the same approach as the OP to adding bigger tires; I like the wheels that came with my rig and they are not negotiable.
Hey now. I'm not trying to push one way or the other. Sorry if it sounded like I was coming off in favor one way or the other was just trying yo pass on information that I have picked up in this forum. I too only have the stock rims and was considering spacers (still might) but I'm still leaning toward new rims even though that will take extra time in saving. I just don't like having to do things twice like buy spacers find out I don't like them and then end up buying rims anyway. Just offering opinions sorry if it came out to harsh. Not intended
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When I went though this process, I opted for 15" steels. They have their own set of drawbacks, but they are a good "mid range" solution. slightly more than spacers in cost, but no safety worries
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When I went though this process, I opted for 15" steels. They have their own set of drawbacks, but they are a good "mid range" solution. slightly more than spacers in cost, but no safety worries
This is what I'm trying to say. Plus the Tires for an 18" rim are about $100 more for a tire than sy for a 15-16" rim
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Hey now. I'm not trying to push one way or the other. Sorry if it sounded like I was coming off in favor one way or the other was just trying yo pass on information that I have picked up in this forum. I too only have the stock rims and was considering spacers (still might) but I'm still leaning toward new rims even though that will take extra time in saving. I just don't like having to do things twice like buy spacers find out I don't like them and then end up buying rims anyway. Just offering opinions sorry if it came out to harsh. Not intended
Hello mackdj1.

Could NOT agree more with you. I cannot afford to do the same job twice!!.
Do it the right way the very first time!!!
Get the right rims and FORGET about some made in china spacers to save few $$$
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I'm sure some folks around here know, I'm not light on my rig, at all. I've bent an axle, destroyed a few driveshafts, and have even made my rock rails look like tin foil. That being said, I've been running factory wheels with spidertrax spacers since day 1. If I havn't broken them, you sure as hell won't. And I even picked mine up used!
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My spydertrax spacers installed properly are the least of my worries. I can't decide on new wheels so I will stay with the spacers till I do. The spacer cost didn't bother me since they sell so easily used.
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I'm just here to keep up with thread since i'm thinking about the same thing too! I know i can move the wheels and tires together for what they're worth but i can probably move the tires so I can run a larger one on my stock rubi's.

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