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Old 05-11-2015, 08:07 PM
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Anyone pulling a travel trailer with an Unlimited

I have a 2013 unlimited with the Pentastar, 3.73 and maximum tow package. I know I can pull up to 3500 lbs with a maximum hitch weight of 350 lbs. I've had trailers in the past and are very familiar with towing.

I'm looking at buying a travel trailer with a weight of 2765 and hitch weight of 260 lbs. I would also have an equilizer hitch and brake controller wired in the jeep for the trailers electric brakes. Pulling mostly on flat terrain, some hills in Central Texas.

Anyone here on the forum tow a travel trailer? What size, type and weight are you pulling? Are you having any problems with sway and the jeep always in 3rd gear?

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My buddy is pulling his Travelmanor 24' (~2200#) and he said his JKUR didn't break a sweat. I did not ask him what gear he was in and truth be told, I'm not sure what his final drive ratio is.

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Both Jeeps had teraflex big rotor kits.

Here's my opinion:

First Jeep was a '13 JKU with 3.73 and 6 speed manual. Towed a year with it and it did OK. Of the two Jeeps it was the better towing rig.
2nd Jeep is a '14 JKUR with 4.10 and auto. It did OK.... until I went to 37s, now at a 3.54 effective ratio and it sucks.

IMO the problem isn't with the weight or the braking, I was happy with acceleration and braking on both Jeeps. The problem is with wind resistance. The max frontal are for the JKU towing is 32 sq ft. Wind resistance of the Jeep is crap enough, but add a taller trailer and it gets worse. Next problem is side profile, Oklahoma winds can be gusty, this has caused some white knuckle rides even with my 6x10 trailer.

So, we're looking at travel trailers too. Based on my experiences I'm looking at pop ups. Least wind resistance front/side is my goal. YMMV.

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Sounds like you know the specs, but here's a link I made of my '14 owners manual towing section: https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/20...ty-689562.html

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What Blue Baby Sound said. It's not always the weight that's the problem. I tow a 26' TT behind my Tundra. It handles the weight with no problems but if you get into a cross-wind, things can get busy. Central Texas doesn't get windy, does it?
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My 2013 Jeep unlimited with a full tank of gas, my wife and two dogs has a scale weight of 4600 lbs. Adding the trailer weight of 2780 plus propane, battery, my weight, gear, tongue weight and a weight distributing hitch is going to max out the Gross combined weight rating.

In addition, with the strong winds we sometimes get here in Central Texas I think will cause problems, plus I go to Colorado twice a year in the mountains. I've had two popups and a 28 foot travel trailer all pulled by an Expedition in the past.

Looks like anything more than a popup and you could have some serious safety issues. Looks like I am going to have to sell the Jeep and buy an F150

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My 2013 Jeep unlimited with a full tank of gas, my wife and two dogs has a scale weight of 4600 lbs. Adding the trailer weight of 2780 plus propane, battery, my weight, gear, tongue weight and a weight distributing hitch is going to max out the Gross combined weight rating.

In addition, with the strong winds we sometimes get here in Central Texas I think will cause problems, plus I go to Colorado twice a year in the mountains. I've had two popups and a 28 foot travel trailer all pulled by an Expedition in the past.

Looks like anything more than a popup and you could have some serious safety issues. Looks like I am going to have to keep the JK and buy a Tundra.

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I pull my 2200lbs sailboat with mine and no problem at all, just have to think about braking ahead of time since I dont have brakes on the trailer at the moment
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I have since gotten rid of it, but I towed a 1991 Prowler 19E with my JKU from Phoenix AZ to central Colorado, and then once from CO to Oregon and back. It weighed in dry at 3350, and was probably higher then 35oo with all our gear in it, and not once did I feel like it was pushing me around. I had a stabilizer hitch, but no brakes connected.
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I just purchased a 20' travel trailer and it towed great. I had to raise my hitch slightly and for piece of mind will be adding a sway control.
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I just purchased a 20' travel trailer and it towed great. I had to raise my hitch slightly and for piece of mind will be adding a sway control.
Do you have an equalizer hitch? If so, is it adjusted properly? The trailer seems to have the nose pointed down and the Wrangler seems to sag in the rear. This will be okay if you are towing a few miles from home, otherwise have a reputable RV Dealer look at it. JMHO.
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No problems here. It's probably not the best tow vehicle on earth for my airstream, but it works just fine. If the transmission had a few more gears it would probably be perfect.

2013 w/ max tow. 16' airstream , 350 hitch, 3300 loaded w/ brake controller & Andersen WD hitch.
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No problems here. It's probably not the best tow vehicle on earth for my airstream, but it works just fine. If the transmission had a few more gears it would probably be perfect.

2013 w/ max tow. 16' airstream , 350 hitch, 3300 loaded w/ brake controller & Andersen WD hitch.
Can I ask which Anderson hitch you have? Looking at trailers now and would like input on WD hitches. Anderson pops up a lot. And which brake controller do you have?
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One more thing to consider is that Jeep has a restriction on frontal area of the item being towed. 25 sq ft for the 2 door and 32 sq ft for the Unlimited. That doesn't allow for much more than a pop up camper.
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Can I ask which Anderson hitch you have? Looking at trailers now and would like input on WD hitches. Anderson pops up a lot. And which brake controller do you have?
Just the regular Andersen WD hitch: link

I have the Curt Triflex brake controller: Amazon

And here is the harness: Amazon

Everything works very well. I tow at about 14-15MPG with the wrangler.

Oh yeah, I also installed the Mopar 7 pin harness kit. I mounted it in my bumper like I saw a few examples of on these forums.
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I'm no expert but there's a LOT more to towing SAFELY than "towing capacity."

Things like the tow vehicle's wheelbase length, vehicle weight, BRAKES, engine power, transmission.

Sure, your Jeep may be "able" to tow your trailer but do you really want you and your family in it when you're hauling down the highway and have a panic breaking situation or blow out, etc?
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Just the regular Andersen WD hitch: link

I have the Curt Triflex brake controller: Amazon

And here is the harness: Amazon

Everything works very well. I tow at about 14-15MPG with the wrangler.

Oh yeah, I also installed the Mopar 7 pin harness kit. I mounted it in my bumper like I saw a few examples of on these forums.
Thanks for the info. All that really helps. The reason I ask on the Anderson is that they have a number of different hitches depending on your setup. The link you sent me has a 4" drop/rise and a 2 5/16 ball. Is the 4" sufficient then? They also sell one with an 8" and didn't know if that would be necessary if you have a lift. Also, my situation would be a bit different with a 2" ball (although I guess I could swap out the coupler on the trailer if needed).
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Thanks for the info. All that really helps. The reason I ask on the Anderson is that they have a number of different hitches depending on your setup. The link you sent me has a 4" drop/rise and a 2 5/16 ball. Is the 4" sufficient then? They also sell one with an 8" and didn't know if that would be necessary if you have a lift. Also, my situation would be a bit different with a 2" ball (although I guess I could swap out the coupler on the trailer if needed).
This just gets scarier as it goes on. There's a reason the trailer has a 2 5/16" coupler.
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Thanks for the info. All that really helps. The reason I ask on the Anderson is that they have a number of different hitches depending on your setup. The link you sent me has a 4" drop/rise and a 2 5/16 ball. Is the 4" sufficient then? They also sell one with an 8" and didn't know if that would be necessary if you have a lift. Also, my situation would be a bit different with a 2" ball (although I guess I could swap out the coupler on the trailer if needed).
Why not just buy a 2 5/16" ball? Hell of a lot easier than switching the coupler. And if the trailer came with that size keep it!!
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Why not just buy a 2 5/16" ball? Hell of a lot easier than switching the coupler. And if the trailer came with that size keep it!!
Andersen hitches don't work that way. They are integrated systems. They attach at the top and bottom of the ball assembly, which is one piece. Kind of hard to explain. This is the best picture I can get to show how it works.

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This just gets scarier as it goes on. There's a reason the trailer has a 2 5/16" coupler.
What would that reason be on a 16 footer? That's the first time I've ever seen a ball that size on such a small TT. I had to go all the way up to towing my 28' cabin cruiser to get to a ball that size. Even my 22 footer didn't have that.
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What would that reason be on a 16 footer? That's the first time I've ever seen a ball that size on such a small TT. I had to go all the way up to towing my 28' cabin cruiser to get to a ball that size. Even my 22 footer didn't have that.
Oh, ok, didn't realize it was that short of a trailer. Then that wouldn't be too bad I reckon.
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I haven't towed anything heavy with my JKU yet but I think you are pushing the limits of the vehicle. Max towing capacity is that which the manufacturer claims you can safely tow without stuff breaking. As a practical issue, you will be extremely disappointed towing max weight when you get into hills, and I don't mean the Rocky mountains, rolling hills. Also, you will be surprised how much other stuff you pack. On top of all of that, trailer builders sometimes underestimate the actual weight of the units.
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That picture was from when i just picked it up. Since then i adjusted the reciever and added the sway control. It sits and tows great, the only problem i have is that it gets a little hot on the tranny when pulling up a steep grade. I am in the process of finding ways to help the temp stay down, right now it gets to the 3/4 mark on my temp gauge.
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That picture was from when i just picked it up. Since then i adjusted the reciever and added the sway control. It sits and tows great, the only problem i have is that it gets a little hot on the tranny when pulling up a steep grade. I am in the process of finding ways to help the temp stay down, right now it gets to the 3/4 mark on my temp gauge.
It might help to drop down a gear on your selector. I know when I pull my TT with my truck, I use the manual mode and keep it out of 6th gear. When I pulled with a Silverado a few years ago, I kept it in third instead of OD. This will allow the converter to lock up, keep trans heat down. One time, on flat road, I tested putting the trans in OD and see how it reacted. Gas mileage on the computer didn't change but trans temps went up. After that, I always keep my tow vehicle at least one gear out of OD to keep the trans from hunting for gears and keeping the converter locked up. I'd rather spend a little more in gas than new transmissions.
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For any of you towing with a sway bar, such as Equal-i-zer® Hitch - The “American Original” with 4-Point Sway Control™ and Weight Distribution or other, do some research on Weekend Warrior history. Be certain to disconnect sway control bars prior to leaving pavement.
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I've had 3 trips so with my new RP-179 (GVWR 3785, 285 hitch weight) and I absolutely love it! Haven't had any temp or slowing to a crawl issues. I've never pushed the drivetrain and I'm never in a hurry pulling a trailer. I've been pulling trailers of all sizes for 20+ years. Mostly stock '14 JKU Willys, Auto w/ 3:73 WD hitch, sway bar and Prodigy 2 brake control Click image for larger version

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