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Old 03-16-2018, 03:54 PM
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Auto to Manual conversion?

Everytime Ive looked up forums asking about it, every one just says to sell and get a new one. Why tho, I got a rough quote from a custom shop, 6500 for used parts, 8500 for new. If you figure you can get something for your auto trans too (~1000-1500 bucks) its not really that bad now is it? Im pretty sure the stealership would completely f**k me over if I tried to sell and get something different.

Does anyone know anyone who has gone through with this? Havent really found any posts where someone actually has done it. Id like to hear somebody chime in about it

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So 6500-8500 to make your vehicle worth less money? Doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
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its really more like 4500-6500 depending on what you get for the trans you sell,
plus manual is fun, I guess I just really pref manual
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Everytime Ive looked up forums asking about it, every one just says to sell and get a new one.

You started out with your answer. If you like wasting money then hey, go for it, but there are many other better ways to waste money on a Jeep.
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Sounds like a bargain, go for it.
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You started out with your answer. If you like wasting money then hey, go for it, but there are many other better ways to waste money on a Jeep.
Ok, but I'd have to spend money after a trade in to a dealer anyway unless I got something, already worth less than my jeep

Plus they arent going to give me money for any mods ive put into the jeep
so why bother with all the hassle of selling, titling, registration, change insurance when you can just get it, the way you want it?
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@ztman I know right ?
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I don't know what these other guys are thinking. No brainer. I would be at the garage on Monday.
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That cost seems high to me. I just checked ebay, there are numerous brand NSG370's listed. Price varies a lot, but about $2000 seems to be ball park. I don't see how clutch + pedal + labor gets you to $6500-$8500. What else do you need? New ECU?
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You started out with your answer. If you like wasting money then hey, go for it, but there are many other better ways to waste money on a Jeep.
Ok, but I'd have to spend money after a trade in to a dealer anyway unless I got something, already worth less than my jeep

Plus they arent going to give me money for any mods ive put into the jeep
so why bother with all the hassle of selling, titling, registration, change insurance when you can just get it, the way you want it?
I’m just curious what’s the year and model of your Jeep? How many miles?
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If you like your jeep, Go for it. I have a 6-speed. I wouldn't buy an auto if you paid me. Your right about the trade in. The dealership will want to make 6k on the trade.
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I don't know what these other guys are thinking. No brainer. I would be at the garage on Monday.
Reading these reminds me of the movie Tin Cup. Dammit Roy, just go for it.
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Reading these reminds me of the movie Tin Cup. Dammit Roy, just go for it.
And the rest was history.

I figure a guy with a name of DIPS,, aka DIP S***? that has already made his mind up to do something so illogical, just like Roy, needed someone to support him.
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Let me ask you this. If you keep going to forums asking the same question and then ignoring most of the reasonable advice, why do you keep asking? If it's what you want to do and you have the money to waste, do it. The reason you can't find anyone that's done it is because anyone with any sense would have either traded or sold their auto to get a manual. If you were to sell your auto JK and purchase one nearly identical to it with the manual trans, you should come out money ahead since autos are generally worth more. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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If you were to sell your auto JK and purchase one nearly identical to it with the manual trans, you should come out money ahead since autos are generally worth more. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I tend to agree. When I was looking for my first JKU, I searched for a used one in the color i wanted with a manual. Pretty tough to find, and since they hold their value so well, almost as expensive as new. I worked with a salesman who was an enthusiast and he recommended i think about ordering one the way I wanted. For me, that meant no bling, no electronics, no leather, just a straight-forward rig. Turns out that brand new JKU, with a manual, the color, interior, etc just the way i wanted was only about $5000 more than a couple years old used. I've never regretted going this route, and have never looked back. P.S. Wish I'd ordered it with the 3.73 tho...but that was my mistake. haha
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Nobody is asking the bigger question- if manual trans is important enough to be considering paying this much money for, why did you buy an auto in the first place?
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Did the quotes they gave you cover replacing/reprogramming your Wrangler's Engine Control Unit (ECU, ie the Computer) and making the necessary wiring changes? An ECM programmed for an automatic when a manual transmission is installed will generate a check engine light if it doesn't see the expected drop in RPMs after it sends out its signal to lock up the torque converter.
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Having done multiple, successful auto to manual swaps on different cars and trucks, it isn't hard and it isn't as expensive as people make it out to be. If there is nothing wrong with your auto, I don't see a need to swap it out, but hey, it's your money. If you can find a wrecked manual, that would be the easiest and cheapest way to do it. Take everything you need and then it's just a matter of swapping it all over. The hardest part will be finding the wrecked jeep with all the parts still there. People at junkyards are savages when it comes to jeeps. Give it two days and it will be stripped of all usable parts.
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Makes total sense to me, Dips. I did this with the transfer case -- realized after having the Jeep a year and a half that I really needed the 4:1. At that point I realized the best route to start with would have been to get a Rubicon, because I was going to put a t-case and probably ultimately a D44 in the front, and lockers front and rear. But at that point, I already had a lot of money in mods. I'd installed them all myself and didn't fancy pulling them off the Willys and reinstalling factory parts, then reversing the process again after buying the Rubicon.

So I get it, unless you have a fairly stock JK right now. If you do, you should be able to sell it and buy a manual with similar specs/miles/condition/year for roughly the same money, if you can find one. But even that option is easier in some parts of the country than others. When I bought my 14 there were exactly zero new JK 6Ms of any description at the 8 metro-atlanta dealers I checked. I just wanted to test drive one before ordering so I didn't care what model it was or anything. I found a 2012 with 35k miles at one dealership and that was it. On the other hand, in Arizona and Colorado people on here claim they're all over the place and always in stock at dealerships. So used ones should be easy to find.

Anyway, back to the premise: A) if you don't have much in the way of mods I'd say sell private party and buy a manual private party if that's an option. B) if you don't have enough used manuals available in your area to make it likely to find a similar manual to what you have, OR if you have a lot of moolah invested in mods, OR if, like me, you just like the fact that you and that particular Jeep have been on a lot of adventure together and the trail dust from those adventures is wedged solidly up into every crack and crevice of the frame and interior, and every time you poke around inside or below decks you get some gen-u-wine southeastern Utah red powder in your eye... well then, swapping a manual in is the only solution for you.

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NoGaBiker has a great point, whilst you are under there. I'd seriously consider finding a wrecked rubi manual and go ahead and swap the t/c out, and hey, if you got the t/c, grab that front axle and go all in
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You might want to buy an entire wrecked jeep from an insurance auction and take everything you want and junk the rest.
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Swapping in a manual in an auto is just not a sound idea, however if you want to do it - go for it. I had a buddy that did it on a YJ.

You are pretty much destroying the value of your Jeep from a resale standpoint, so if you are cool with that go ahead and drop in a V8 as well. I am being serious with that. You want a MT because it is what men drive and are very much more fun. It is even more fun with a V8

Seriously though - if you do it, your Jeep is going to be worthless compared to a similar model. No way in hell would I buy a Jeep with a transmission conversion.
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And I would disagree with the above; as long as it is done with factory parts, and you've had it for awhile, and it obviously runs just like a regular factory Jeep (which ain't all that good anyway!) you'll probably get dinged a little bit, but not "killed" or rendered "worthless." Not by a long shot. Rebel's just trying to beat you down so he can buy it off you for a song.

If you keep the Jeep long term (and let's face it; if that wasn't your plan you sure wouldn't be doing this) I doubt it will hurt you at all. At that point it will be an old Jeep and it will have been working fine for a decade or more after the conversion. It wouldn't bother me a bit.
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Hey guys, glad to see so many replies! Ill try to answer some quesitons. As far as I know the quote was for the full job, reprogrammed ecu and everything, Im not sure if they included the cost of that though, since theyd have to send it to the dealer and who knows what they charge.

As for why I didnt buy an manual to start, jk was a handmedown, was my brothers to start but then when he went off to college became mine, but Ive put considerable work into it since then, so Im not looking to sell

I would fully consider going forwards with this upgrade, but its gonna have to wait some time now, unfortunately this weekend, my shed set on fire and my roommate and I both lost our motorcycles in said fire. Damn shame really, he had just brought his over to our house from his parents that day hahah.

Worst part is, I JUST got a new ezpass for that thing, *sigh* now I gotta call those idiots again, and look for a new bike

@NoGaBiker thanks for the good info
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As for why I didnt buy an manual to start, jk was a handmedown, was my brothers to start but then when he went off to college became mine, but Ive put considerable work into it since then, so Im not looking to sell
Well that changes everything. You have been given a gift, may you unleash hell upon the drive line of your chariot.
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Worst part is, I JUST got a new ezpass for that thing, *sigh* now I gotta call those idiots again, and look for a new bike
you know you can change the assigned ezpass vehicle online, right? Just keep it around until get a new bike and add that bike to the account.
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you know you can change the assigned ezpass vehicle online, right? Just keep it around until get a new bike and add that bike to the account.
Oh, I thought that his new ezpass might have burned/melted in the fire too.

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