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Old 04-15-2019, 06:16 PM
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I had my Jeep in for the airbag recall today and they did a maintenance check. They said my ball joints have a lot of play in them and are worn out pretty bad. They wanted to schedule me another appointment for tomorrow to get them changed, and are charging $212 Canadian for each side. How different are stock mopar ball joints compared to something like the teraflex heavy duty ones? I should mention that I have a 2.5 inch MC lift and 315s. Should I swap my stock joints with another mopar set? Or is it worth my while to wait and get an aftermarket set shipped to me?


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The Teraflex ball joints would be a better option in my opinion.

The stock ball joints are fine with stock tires. The extra weight from the 315s are what is causing your problems, so you need a heavier duty ball joint and that is what the Teraflex ball joints will address.

At least that's what I did and the reasons for it. So far, so good.
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The Teraflex ball joints would be a better option in my opinion.

The stock ball joints are fine with stock tires. The extra weight from the 315s are what is causing your problems, so you need a heavier duty ball joint and that is what the Teraflex ball joints will address.

At least that's what I did and the reasons for it. So far, so good.


Okay thank you! I will hold out and wait to get my hands on some Teraflex joints.


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The Teraflex ball joints would be a better option in my opinion.

The stock ball joints are fine with stock tires. The extra weight from the 315s are what is causing your problems, so you need a heavier duty ball joint and that is what the Teraflex ball joints will address.

At least that's what I did and the reasons for it. So far, so good.


I am in the same boat as the OP. Did you swap yours out or take it somewhere? Iím pretty mechanically inclined as I have done everything thus far to my Jeep with lift, LCAs, etc. Donít know though if I should try this at home or not. I have air tools, etc but if need be can I rent any needed one-off tools from an auto parts shop to complete the job?
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I am in the same boat as the OP. Did you swap yours out or take it somewhere? I’m pretty mechanically inclined as I have done everything thus far to my Jeep with lift, LCAs, etc. Don’t know though if I should try this at home or not. I have air tools, etc but if need be can I rent any needed one-off tools from an auto parts shop to complete the job?

I did it myself. My original ball joints had 120K miles and getting those out were a byotch. Getting the new ones in aren't that difficult. What I ended up doing for ball joint adapters was that I went to harbor freight and purchased their adapter set, and I also went to advanced auto and rented their ball joint press with adapter set. I needed both sets to have a combo of the press and the needed adapters to get the joints out and the new ones in.

I replaced my ball joints last summer. With the advanced auto rental, you put down a deposit of $200+ to purchase the set, then when you're done with them, you return them and get your deposit back. "Keep them as long as you need them", is what they told me. The set they carry at advanced auto has one of the better presses you'll find out there. I actually still have the set in my garage and am hoping I can still return them and get my deposit back. Otherwise, I now own a nice ball joint press set which I hopefully won't be using that often. I'm certain guys like me is where they make their money, in that we use the set and forget to return them and therefore end up buying it.
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I had my Jeep in for the airbag recall today and they did a maintenance check. They said my ball joints have a lot of play in them and are worn out pretty bad. They wanted to schedule me another appointment for tomorrow to get them changed, and are charging $212 Canadian for each side. How different are stock mopar ball joints compared to something like the teraflex heavy duty ones? I should mention that I have a 2.5 inch MC lift and 315s. Should I swap my stock joints with another mopar set? Or is it worth my while to wait and get an aftermarket set shipped to me?


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May I inquire as to how long / how many miles you have on your Jeep with lift and tires, and what backspacing you're running? I ask because I recently upgraded to the same type setup, wondering how long before I may run into similar issues (of course understanding it's probably highly variable depending on use).

Are the HD ball joints expected to last about as long as stock ones do with stock tires?
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I did it myself. My original ball joints had 120K miles and getting those out were a byotch. Getting the new ones in aren't that difficult. What I ended up doing for ball joint adapters was that I went to harbor freight and purchased their adapter set, and I also went to advanced auto and rented their ball joint press with adapter set. I needed both sets to have a combo of the press and the needed adapters to get the joints out and the new ones in.

I replaced my ball joints last summer. With the advanced auto rental, you put down a deposit of $200+ to purchase the set, then when you're done with them, you return them and get your deposit back. "Keep them as long as you need them", is what they told me. The set they carry at advanced auto has one of the better presses you'll find out there. I actually still have the set in my garage and am hoping I can still return them and get my deposit back. Otherwise, I now own a nice ball joint press set which I hopefully won't be using that often. I'm certain guys like me is where they make their money, in that we use the set and forget to return them and therefore end up buying it.


Sooooo since you still have all the tools....I just ordered the TeraFlex ones yesterday from Quadratec, they will be here today. Iím sure that if the OP and couple others on here do the same they will get them by the end of the week. What are you doing this weekend? Lol


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May I inquire as to how long / how many miles you have on your Jeep with lift and tires, and what backspacing you're running? I ask because I recently upgraded to the same type setup, wondering how long before I may run into similar issues (of course understanding it's probably highly variable depending on use).

Are the HD ball joints expected to last about as long as stock ones do with stock tires?

Hey DesertRubi. I have only 60000kms(37000miles) Total on the vehicle. And around half of that is with a lift/bigger tires with steel wheels. Iíve had the Jeep for almost 2 and half years. I should also probably say that where I live in Canada the roads are absolutely terrible and
Full of pot holes, since Iím assuming that would affect wear.


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5 years ago when we bought got our first JK I had minimal experience working on vehicles. I took every opportunity to wrench with our Jeep club and friends and learned along the way. Now, 5 years later, I've done countless lifts, multiple sets of ball joints, multiple truss/gusset kits, etc.

So IMO if you have any skills, or want to learn the skills, jump in and do it yourself. With the help of manufacturer videos (and others) on Youtube there's no guessing what needs to be done

Here's the latest Teraflex ball joint install video:

I've installed Synergy and a Teraflex on my Jeeps, highly recommend the TF. Wasn't happy with Synergy. Also helped install several other Synergy, Teraflex, Rare Parts and parts store BJs.

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should be covered under the drive train warranty.


My dealer told me my warranty is voided because I have a lift on the Jeep and itís not from mopar.


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then I would find someone else to do the work.


Iím definitely getting someone else to do the work. Yesterday I got a maintenance check done at the dealership for the sole reason that I was already there for the airbag recall. And they were very hard to get along with. They actually claimed that there are problems with my lift that I know are not true, just trying to get an extra buck. I get all my usual work done at a local off road shop. 100% better service, and a lot cheaper.


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When I break stock parts, I take it as a hint that they need to be upgraded. Never replace a broken part with an OEM replacement. The Teraflex get great reviews and seem really strong. My stick ball joints haven't given up on me yet but when they do, the TF will go right on.

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I went the dynatrac route for the reason you can rebuild them without having to remove them from the knuckle. Otherwise I probably would have gone TF.
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I went with TerraFlex last year. So far, so good.


I normally do my wrenching myself, but a local shop quoted me $100/side to do it if I supplied the parts, so I went that route and saved myself the headache.
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I went the dynatrac route for the reason you can rebuild them without having to remove them from the knuckle. Otherwise I probably would have gone TF.

Tell us how well one of those rebuilds goes for you, if you ever reach that point. A buddy had to rebuild his dynatrac ball joints and between the cost of the rebuild parts and the difficulty of performing the actual rebuild, he now regrets going with the dynatracs for that original rebuild benefit he bought into. Do you own an H-Frame press? Most say you're going to need it performing the rebuild, for some odd reason rebuilding them are not as simple as DT shows on their how-to videos.
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Iíve been visiting local shops to inquire about ordering the new teraflex ball joints. Every place tells me they are on back order for over a month. But I was on Amazon this afternoon and it said they had 9 kits in stock, so I ordered it. I hope they show up soon.


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I did it myself. My original ball joints had 120K miles and getting those out were a byotch. Getting the new ones in aren't that difficult. What I ended up doing for ball joint adapters was that I went to harbor freight and purchased their adapter set, and I also went to advanced auto and rented their ball joint press with adapter set. I needed both sets to have a combo of the press and the needed adapters to get the joints out and the new ones in.

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Can confirm, mine were a byotch to remove as well. 100k miles when i did them. I rented a ball joint press from a parts store and also got the 4wd adapter set, which was definitely necessary to get the old ones out. Replaced with Teraflex, so far so good.
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5 years ago when we bought got our first JK I had minimal experience working on vehicles. I took every opportunity to wrench with our Jeep club and friends and learned along the way. Now, 5 years later, I've done countless lifts, multiple sets of ball joints, multiple truss/gusset kits, etc.

So IMO if you have any skills, or want to learn the skills, jump in and do it yourself. With the help of manufacturer videos (and others) on Youtube there's no guessing what needs to be done

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Nice informative video. However a couple of steps don't need to be done. You don't need to drain the diff. Just jack up one side at a time and the oil will drain to the other side and not leak out. Also, although they cleaned the ball joint hole, they didn't clean the hole the wheel hub bearing mounts in. Take a minute and clean the rust off that area too and apply anti seize to the bearing hub that slides in there to prevent rust and to make it easier to remove on the trail if you ever have to. I put anti seize on every bolt I take out so if I have to do a trail repair it will be easier. If your hub bolts are really rusted, you can order them ahead of time from Quadratec to make the install easier. The heads of mine were so corroded I had to pound a socket on them to get them off.

This isn't a difficult job and can save you some money if you do it yourself. Since you have it apart anyway, check the condition of you hub bearing and the u-joints on you stub shafts.
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