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Old 01-16-2020, 05:54 PM
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Barnes Aluminum Tie Rod vs. YETI XD TIE ROD

Hey guys, first post on the forum after lurking here for a few years.

Looking to to buy a new tie rod for my freshly lifted 2door JKR on 37s and wanted to get some opinions from some people who are sure to be more experienced and knowledgeable than i am.

I've narrowed it down to two choices

Barnes / 7slot Customs Aluminum tie rod

Price: $295

https://www.7slotcustoms.com/collect...5%20877%200551
  • 7075 Aluminum
  • GM 1 ton tie rod ends

Steer Smarts YETI XD TIE ROD
https://steersmarts.com/products/yet...e-rod-assembly
Price: $414
  • 30mm 1 1/2 Ton ball joints
  • Steel

Which would be the best buy and last me the longest between the two?
I'm gonna be going with the steersmarts drag link in the future since it's able to mount over the knuckle without drilling.

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based off youtube videos aluminum seems to be the way to go since its less likely to bend and it's definitely a more attractive price but i just want to make sure i choose the highest quality between the two.

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I'm partial to aluminum. I've got the Rock Krawler kit and love it.

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I'm partial to aluminum. I've got the Rock Krawler kit and love it.

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do you think there would be a significant difference between the 1.5ton joints on the yeti vs the 1ton joints on the barnes tie rod?
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do you think there would be a significant difference between the 1.5ton joints on the yeti vs the 1ton joints on the barnes tie rod?
I would venture to say that the 1 tons should be sufficient. But maybe someone with a better understanding and experience on the matter could weigh in.

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Hey guys, first post on the forum after lurking here for a few years.

Looking to to buy a new tie rod for my freshly lifted 2door JKR on 37s and wanted to get some opinions from some people who are sure to be more experienced and knowledgeable than i am.

I've narrowed it down to two choices

Barnes / 7slot Customs Aluminum tie rod

Price: $295

https://www.7slotcustoms.com/collect...5%20877%200551
  • 7075 Aluminum
  • GM 1 ton tie rod ends

Steer Smarts YETI XD TIE ROD
https://steersmarts.com/products/yet...e-rod-assembly
Price: $414
  • 30mm 1 1/2 Ton ball joints
  • Steel

Which would be the best buy and last me the longest between the two?
I'm gonna be going with the steersmarts drag link in the future since it's able to mount over the knuckle without drilling.

Thanks!
I'm going to say neither... The Yeti is nice, but bump it on a rock and it's toast.

The Barnes 1 ton is better, but the weak spot is the TRE's. If you don't mind replacing a TRE if bent, go for it.

Otherwise check out the Fusion, TMR, RPM Steering and others 2.5 ton aluminum tie rods.
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I'm going to say neither... The Yeti is nice, but bump it on a rock and it's toast.

The Barnes 1 ton is better, but the weak spot is the TRE's. If you don't mind replacing a TRE if bent, go for it.

Otherwise check out the Fusion, TMR, RPM Steering and others 2.5 ton aluminum tie rods.
just checked those out and wow, they look super beefy but $600 for a tie rod is out of my budget unfortunately

2 out of 2 votes so far say aluminum. Would there by any reason why one would go steel over aluminum?
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just checked those out and wow, they look super beefy but $600 for a tie rod is out of my budget unfortunately

2 out of 2 votes so far say aluminum. Would there by any reason why one would go steel over aluminum?
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Aluminum. I cannot think of one good reason anyone would do steel over aluminum other than maybe budget?
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Aluminum. I cannot think of one good reason anyone would do steel over aluminum other than maybe budget?
Agreed. Aluminum has come a long way in the auto industry. I used to hate it in my field but now it is not only giving steel a run for it's money, but out performing it.

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Aluminum. I cannot think of one good reason anyone would do steel over aluminum other than maybe budget?
Would you recommend the aluminum tie rod from barnes? the price seems a little too good to be true and is making me a little hesitant haha
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I will make it super easy. You can order the barnes ends and 1.5 as clamp for $66 delivered. A bar drilled with flats for $150 delivered from wide open design. (53")
So approximately $220 no warranty.
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I'm going to say neither... The Yeti is nice, but bump it on a rock and it's toast.

The Barnes 1 ton is better, but the weak spot is the TRE's. If you don't mind replacing a TRE if bent, go for it.

Otherwise check out the Fusion, TMR, RPM Steering and others 2.5 ton aluminum tie rods.
So I guess I don't need to go to Moab in two weeks since I have SteerSmarts stuff??
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So I guess I don't need to go to Moab in two weeks since I have SteerSmarts stuff??
Not what they were saying. Aluminum will flex and go back to close to or back to original shape. Steel bends and stays bent. That said, your set up should handle Moab just fine. Much better than a stock tie rod.

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I'd give a lot of weight to Pressurized comments. Another thing to consider that a lot of people don't think about until too late is wheel clearance. Bigger steering components introduces the possibility of interference with steering stabilizers and the insides of your wheels/tires if you're running something without enough backspace and/or wide tires.
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I'd give a lot of weight to Pressurized comments. Another thing to consider that a lot of people don't think about until too late is wheel clearance. Bigger steering components introduces the possibility of interference with steering stabilizers and the insides of your wheels/tires if you're running something without enough backspace and/or wide tires.
Excellent point, just make sure to look for any specs provided by the manufacturer or give them a call.

There are some that need even lower backspace - I run the Rock Krawler aluminum with heim ends instead of TRE. It would not clear a 4.25 backspace, so I had to temporarily go to spacers until I get beadlocks.
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Would you recommend the aluminum tie rod from barnes? the price seems a little too good to be true and is making me a little hesitant haha
I am not familiar with Barnes.
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Are you going to be rock crawling? Or beach cruising since you live in Florida?
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Barnes and the other aluminum tie rods are all pretty much the same. As long as it is a solid aluminum bar and not an aluminum tube, the results should be the same. Most of them use the exact same tie rod ends, so there probably isn't any real difference between them. The only question is the ends, 1 ton or 2.5 ton (don't see many 1.5 ton ends other than steersmart). I don't think there is that much difference between 1 ton ends and 1.5 ton ends.
We went with a Fusion 4x4 2.5 ton aluminum tie rod. Theirs is $550, and uses the same 2.5 ton RareParts tie rod ends everyone else seems to run. But they don't offer a smaller version as far as I know.
I went with a 2.5 ton tie rod, but we have 37's and wheel it in the rocks a bit. For less extreme usage I would think a Barnes 1 ton aluminum tie rod would be OK. I would go that way over the steersmart option. But really, I would want the 2.5 tom aluminum option. And that is where I put my money.
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So I guess I don't need to go to Moab in two weeks since I have SteerSmarts stuff??
Moab isn't that kind of rocks... It's challenge is primarily steep climbs, loose traction or precisely timed ledges that make it difficult to climb. I've been 3 times and still haven't done half of the trails, but even the stock tie rod was fine. Are you going to be doing BFE trails where body damage is likely?

It would be a rock garden or waterfall where you can't clear the tie rod or if you slide off something and drop on the tie rod. Just know that if you hit it, it bends and it can't be straightened... This is stuff I usually take the bypass on.

You can PM @TRBOKEV for his personal experience with the Yeti...

Here are a couple of posts he made a while back.

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Pressurized - Any thoughts on the new Yeti aluminum tie rod? I have some Steersmarts I’ve been happy with but the points about aluminum make sense, curious if you’ve taken a look at the new product.
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Are you going to be rock crawling? Or beach cruising since you live in Florida?
Most of the wheeling we have down here is mud, i do plan to take trips up out of state with my buddies once i got the jeep where i want it to be.
Unfortunately Miami doesn't allow beach cruising
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Moab isn't that kind of rocks... It's challenge is primarily steep climbs, loose traction or precisely timed ledges that make it difficult to climb. I've been 3 times and still haven't done half of the trails, but even the stock tie rod was fine. Are you going to be doing BFE trails where body damage is likely?

It would be a rock garden or waterfall where you can't clear the tie rod or if you slide off something and drop on the tie rod. Just know that if you hit it, it bends and it can't be straightened... This is stuff I usually take the bypass on.

You can PM @TRBOKEV for his personal experience with the Yeti...

Here are a couple of posts he made a while back.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/a...l#post34579413

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@suspectjkr here is another read with a few more options, like Doetsch and Stinky Fab.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/d...2373437-3.html

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thanks for all the info and links! i really appreciate the help, will be reading through them as soon as i get home from work.
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Would you recommend the aluminum tie rod from barnes? the price seems a little too good to be true and is making me a little hesitant haha
I run the Barnes tie rod. So far I am happy with it. I was on 35s for a while and now on 37s on a 4 Door. I am aware that the 1 ton TREs are not the cream of the crop but so far its been good to me. If the 1.5-2.5 Ton rods are out of your budget, I think you will be happy with the Barnes.
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Pressurized - Any thoughts on the new Yeti aluminum tie rod? I have some Steersmarts I’ve been happy with but the points about aluminum make sense, curious if you’ve taken a look at the new product.
Only on photo's... It looks like it would be good, but no experience with it. It's the only one doing a clamp style locking device.
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I used some fab parts from Barnes to fix spring perches, they were super beefy, well priced, and shipped quickly.
Definitely would use them again.
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Excellent point, just make sure to look for any specs provided by the manufacturer or give them a call.

There are some that need even lower backspace - I run the Rock Krawler aluminum with heim ends instead of TRE. It would not clear a 4.25 backspace, so I had to temporarily go to spacers until I get beadlocks.
Do you happen to know if the RK w/heim joints fit with stock rims &1.5" spacers?
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if those are your choices, then the Barnes is a no brainer. but, i'd take a look at Fusion 4x4 and Exodus Jeeps first.
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Barnes makes great stuff and their customer service is outstanding.

I would pick up a couple extra TRE's at the same time for spares.

I was going to buy a Barnes and actually did but there was a SNAFU with the shipping carrier and I never got it (Post Office lost it). Barnes took care of me and offered me either expedited shipping or a full refund. I ended up getting the refund and buying the Fusion. The way I wheel and in the rocks I attempt, I just felt the 2.5 Ton ends better served me.

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