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Old 05-16-2017, 03:06 PM
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Had the Jeeps serviced today and asked then to check the batteries. They said my 15 was good, but my 12 was bad and needed to be replaced. They quoted me $164 installed. I thought that was high so I declined and thought I'd go grab one myself. My 2 part ?... does putting a non-Mopar battery in affect any warranty work down the road? I wasn't sure how particular they can get. And part 2 - any recommendations? In the past with all my other vehicles I have just bought them from Wal-Mart because I have never had any issues with free replacements if something happens within the time period.

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Had the Jeeps serviced today and asked then to check the batteries. They said my 15 was good, but my 12 was bad and needed to be replaced. They quoted me $164 installed. I thought that was high so I declined and thought I'd go grab one myself. My 2 part ?... does putting a non-Mopar battery in affect any warranty work down the road? I wasn't sure how particular they can get. And part 2 - any recommendations? In the past with all my other vehicles I have just bought them from Wal-Mart because I have never had any issues with free replacements if something happens within the time period.
Grab one from Walmart and call it good. Not a warranty issue. Just make sure the pos and neg terminal locations on the new one match the old one.

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Costco has Interstate batteries with a higher amp rating then stock and good warranty. Much cheaper then buying them at a auto parts store or Firestone, etc.
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After Googling replacements, I found this. Could someone confirm it'll work?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart...13=878&veh=sem

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After Googling replacements, I found this. Could someone confirm it'll work?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart...13=878&veh=sem

Here is my original battery that needs replacing:
I'm not familiar with that brand. Looks like they replace it for no charge, 730 CCA, 5 year warranty (first 3 replacement, last 2 prorated); and if the dimensions match, you should be good.

So, from my experience, if it fits and the terminals match up, it should work. But this is all on paper so I don't know.

They also have free testing. Have them test your 2012. It should read 12.6 to 12.9 volts while the engine is off if it's still good. If this is the original, which it appears to be, replace it for "piece of mind". 5 years is good if your stock battery lasted this long.
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After Googling replacements, I found this. Could someone confirm it'll work?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart...13=878&veh=sem

Here is my original battery that needs replacing:
The posts are in the correct position. Just take it in and match it up. You'll have to take it in anyway to avoid or recover the core charge. Might as well do it in one trip.
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For the most part a battery is a battery. Just match the type number and you should be good. Maybe a higher priced name brand battery will last longer, and maybe not. Periodically check the water level and voltage level. Voltage with engine running should be around 14.4 v and with the engine off around 12.2 v. If the voltage is low, charge it. If it does not hold a charge, change it. If the running voltage is less that 14 volts have your alternator checked.

That is one thing I don't like about the JK/JKU, no volt meter, not even in the EVIC.
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The posts are in the correct position. Just take it in and match it up. You'll have to take it in anyway to avoid or recover the core charge. Might as well do it in one trip.
Pay attention to the BCI number. The battery you are showing is an H6 and the Jeep Wrangler needs a 47 or 48. Besides NAPA has that price beat by $5 (at least in S. Georgia).
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My 2 part ?... does putting a non-Mopar battery in affect any warranty work down the road? I wasn't sure how particular they can get. And part 2 - any recommendations?
1. No

2. I replaced the OEM one in our 2013 with an Interstate Megatron Plus, after hearing good things about them here on the forum. It was on sale at the time for around $130.

Here are the specs:
  • 30 Month Free Replacement
  • Six Year Performance Warranty
  • 730 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps)
They say the OEM battery can go anytime after 3 years or so. Although it was still working fine, I replaced it at 35 months because I wanted to do it when it was convenient for me instead of at a bad time. You were fortunate if you got this much use out of the original battery in your 2012.
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I would get an AGM battery
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Optima Red Top here. My stock battery crapped out & stranded me at my dry-cleaner's parking lot...and the weird part is that my voltmeter never really showed a droppage that i can recall. It's been on the road for 2-1/2 years (2015) and has 33K on it...so unimpressive lifespan to say the least. It just started cranking a little slower than normal for a day or so before- then completely dead as a doornail after parking for 5min. Got a jump & went straight to Advanced Auto for an Optima. Expensive? Yep. With the $ I put into this rig...what's a little more?
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There are plenty of very good batteries ----- Walmart has some, Optima is always a solid choice, Exide is high quality and available at many big box stores.

I'd especially look for sealed & maintenance-free. And I prefer AGM.

Remember that the posts are reversed in the JKs; so the Optima is a 34R not the regular 34. The battery cables aren't forgiving.
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I put this one in my Jeep couple months ago:
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I was randomly stranded at home with a dud battery. Lights came on, and gave me an electrical icon in my cluster.

Wound up spending a little money on an AGM battery, and so far it seems to be handling my daily (ab)use...
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Had the Jeeps serviced today and asked then to check the batteries. They said my 15 was good, but my 12 was bad and needed to be replaced. They quoted me $164 installed. I thought that was high so I declined and thought I'd go grab one myself. My 2 part ?... does putting a non-Mopar battery in affect any warranty work down the road? I wasn't sure how particular they can get. And part 2 - any recommendations? In the past with all my other vehicles I have just bought them from Wal-Mart because I have never had any issues with free replacements if something happens within the time period.
$164 installed is pretty reasonable for a replacement OEM battery and install.

Thing is, you can get ALOT more battery than what comes stock for $164 as many have mentioned.

I personally have not seen a stock battery last much longer than 24 months without significant degradation in performance. If for $164 you can get a battery with a better warranty and maybe some better specs (CCAs in particular) than you'd be doing yourself a disservice by going with another stock battery. All you need is an adjustable wrench for the terminals and 10 minutes time.

As for warranty, the only reason I could see a warranty claim being rejected for a non-OEM battery is if the failure was electrical in nature and the replacement battery didn't at least meet or exceed the specs of the OEM battery.
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I put this one in my Jeep couple months ago:
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From Deka ----- another quality brand.

I'm sorta in the same boat. Just over 3 years old, just over 80,000 miles. Don't want to press my luck.
I like Optima because I know people there, know the product well, trust the design ----- made with much fewer parts/welds, harder to break. Great recovery time on them too.

But then there's Exide --- their corporate offices are one exit up the road. Local company and I know people there too. Easy to source their products; just go to BJ's or Tractor Supply. Done.

I've had batteries from Interstate, Enersys (Odyssey), Sears. I used to test and sell batteries.
Most are pretty darn good.
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From Deka ----- another quality brand.

I'm sorta in the same boat. Just over 3 years old, just over 80,000 miles. Don't want to press my luck.
I like Optima because I know people there, know the product well, trust the design ----- made with much fewer parts/welds, harder to break. Great recovery time on them too.

But then there's Exide --- their corporate offices are one exit up the road. Local company and I know people there too. Easy to source their products; just go to BJ's or Tractor Supply. Done.

I've had batteries from Interstate, Enersys (Odyssey), Sears. I used to test and sell batteries.
Most are pretty darn good.
I used to run Optimas but when the last one died I chose to try another brand. Mainly because of all the "Optima moved their plant to Mexico and quality control/internal parts are not what they used to be" internet gossip. Haha
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Just my opinion, but I'd say the way the seller handles warranty and replacements is at least as important than the battery itself, if not more important.

I've found Walmart to be the best for both price and service. They've replaced batteries for me during the "free replacement" period without any hassle, even without a receipt. (They do need to charge the battery for a while before testing it---I spent nearly two hours there once, but no big deal because I was doing some shopping there anyway.)

Autozone I find to be a little pricier, but they're just as nice on warranty. If Autozone has a better location/hours for you, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a battery there.

At those little places like NAPA and all that, I've always found you heave to deal with some grumpy older guy every time you have an issue.

As mentioned above, wholesale clubs should be good too. Costco is generally the all-around best for customer service, but I'm sure Sam's and BJ's are ok too.
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Just my opinion, but I'd say the way the seller handles warranty and replacements is at least as important than the battery itself, if not more important.

I've found Walmart to be the best for both price and service. They've replaced batteries for me during the "free replacement" period without any hassle, even without a receipt. (They do need to charge the battery for a while before testing it---I spent nearly two hours there once, but no big deal because I was doing some shopping there anyway.)

Autozone I find to be a little pricier, but they're just as nice on warranty. If Autozone has a better location/hours for you, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a battery there.

At those little places like NAPA and all that, I've always found you heave to deal with some grumpy older guy every time you have an issue.

As mentioned above, wholesale clubs should be good too. Costco is generally the all-around best for customer service, but I'm sure Sam's and BJ's are ok too.
I've had a few batteries purchased at Walmart and have never had an issue with replacement. I let one sit in my Expedition for a year and just took it in and swapped it out, no questions asked.

Have had the same experience with AutoZone and they will take out the old one and put the new one in, except for the wet-behind-the ears who told me, "We aren't allowed to mess with extra things that are attached to the battery." It was the factory plastic battery cover, lol. He handed me the socket and I removed it, then he did everything else.

I've had really good luck with both the EverStart from Wal-Mart and the AutoZone batteries.

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If you were SW of Atlanta, there is a store called BatterySource. They have batteries for everything. In their listing they even show batteries for cars that have not been produced since before WWII (Essex and Allard are examples). They have batteries for the JK/JKU ranging from $110 (1000 CCA) to $180 for an AGM battery. I bought my golf cart from them 12 years ago and recently had it in for new batteries. The last time I did it myself and it was a PITA. Six 6 V deep drain batteries, two cables, new hold downs and they cleaned it up for $633 and I couldn't buy the batteries at Sam's for that. I buy my batteries for my computer UPS there as well.

NAPA won't change out your battery, but BatterySource will. But they are so far only in Mid and South Georgia, Alabama and Florida.
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From Deka ----- another quality brand.

I'm sorta in the same boat. Just over 3 years old, just over 80,000 miles. Don't want to press my luck.
I like Optima because I know people there, know the product well, trust the design ----- made with much fewer parts/welds, harder to break. Great recovery time on them too.

But then there's Exide --- their corporate offices are one exit up the road. Local company and I know people there too. Easy to source their products; just go to BJ's or Tractor Supply. Done.

I've had batteries from Interstate, Enersys (Odyssey), Sears. I used to test and sell batteries.
Most are pretty darn good.
Well, putting my money where my mouth (keyboard) is. Ordered an Exide Edge AGM today. PN: FP-AGML3/48

http://www2.exide.com/us/en/product-...ery-trans.aspx

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I'm using a Deka intimidator here, the stock 48 series or whatever it is that the 2012+ come with. My stock one was starting to have issues after just 3 years as well (turn the key and get a short delay before the starter would kick over and failed a battery test). I really wanted to do the Odyssey since they seemed highly regarded as like "the best of the best" but I couldn't swing that on an unexpected expense, but I knew I at least wanted AGM to hold up better against offroad vibes/jolts (apparently that causes batteries to fail faster).

When this one goes I'll maybe go with an Odyssey 34R or a dual battery tray with a couple of AGM's from who knows where (probably not going to be able to swing two Odysseys if they'd even fit).
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Update -----
My Exide FP-AGML3/48 arrived Thursday. I ran a diagnostic on it and was pleased to find it at a full state of charge, 13 volts even, good internal temperature. Brand spankin' new off the assembly line. Benefits of buying directly from the factory...

I put it on my Optima Charger overnight anyhow and had it run a condition cycle. Call me anal but I don't like to install a battery without the benefit of topping it off first.
I let it rest for 12 hours and did a diagnostic on it again. 13 volts even.
Nice.

Threw it in on Saturday morning.

The OE battery had settled into a pattern of resting at 12.6 volts and dropping steadily unless charged. It had a good life, over 82,000 miles. It had a rough start too. Born in October of 2013 and installed in my Jeep, it sat on the lot at the dealership until I rescued it in February of '14. The Jeep only had 42 test-drive miles on it so I know it had never had a chance to get fully charged during those months. It's pretty remarkable that it lasted as long as it did and never failed to start.

I'll check the state of charge of the Exide at intervals. From what I hear, Costco Canada is carrying these now too. Not sure about Costco US; I'll check into that.

Specs: http://www2.exide.com/media/partscat...P-AGML3-48.PDF

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Exide Edge AGM batteries are designed to maximize energy capacity for today's on-the-go drivers. The Edge's lasting energy protects against battery failure, helping vehicle batteries stay strong and perform like new longer. • Exide Edge flat plate design contains six sets of plates, with glass mat separators, arranged in a straight line inside the battery, like sliced bread. • SureLife® Graphite Technology retains initial capacity longer for lasting energy capacity
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Over 10,000 miles on the Exide and it still rests at 13 volts. I've beat on it a bit with my ham radios but it doesn't complain.
We'll see how its first winter treats it.
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Another vote for the Odyssey 34R. Highest quality, longest lasting, tolerates draw down from a winch, etc. while being a powerful starting battery as well.

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