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Old 05-30-2019, 09:40 PM   #31
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Iíve been buying batteries from Autozone lately, but havenít needed one yet in the 2016 Wrangler. Autozone is great about checking them and installing them for free and theyíve been generous with me on their replacement warranties. Iíve thought about an Optima for the Wrangler before the OEM goes out but that video makes me have second thoughts about it. SE TX heat is hard on batteries.

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You wouldn't happen to have a link to where to purchase upgraded terminals would you? I've been looking but haven't found anything that looked quality enough.
I canít confirm how these work on a JK, but I installed a set of Jeepers and Creepers custom made heavy duty cables with MIL-SPEC clamps on my XJ and Iím glad I did.

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Iíve been running autozone duralast gold in my pickup, but been replacing it every four years just out of the free replacement.

AGM reviews have been all over the place.

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I canít confirm how these work on a JK, but I installed a set of Jeepers and Creepers custom made heavy duty cables with MIL-SPEC clamps on my XJ and Iím glad I did.

https://jeepersandcreepers.com/colle...tery-cable-kit

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Thanks for that link. I think that's exactly what I am looking for. I have a dual battery system in my JK and if I try and replace just the ends on the original cables I think they will be a bit too short to reach the terminals again. My negative cable is already stretched a tiny bit just reaching its terminal now and that damn factory end that Jeep uses likes to use comes loose every now and then.
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Thanks for that link. I think that's exactly what I am looking for. I have a dual battery system in my JK and if I try and replace just the ends on the original cables I think they will be a bit too short to reach the terminals again. My negative cable is already stretched a tiny bit just reaching its terminal now and that damn factory end that Jeep uses likes to use comes loose every now and then.
I’ve only posted this once before in another thread — most glossed over it. They didn’t make these before for the JK, because a few years ago I checked when I found my cheap OEM clamps wouldn’t stay tight. I think the reason I’ve gone through two batteries.

If you purchase and install these... you should start a thread, do a write up and showcase your setup. No one here I know has made the investment in these heavy duty cables.

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I’ve been buying batteries from Autozone lately, but haven’t needed one yet in the 2016 Wrangler. Autozone is great about checking them and installing them for free and they’ve been generous with me on their replacement warranties. I’ve thought about an Optima for the Wrangler before the OEM goes out but that video makes me have second thoughts about it. SE TX heat is hard on batteries.
Except the new ones (for JK's anyway) are not spiral cell anymore.

https://www.optimabatteries.com/en-u...tima-yellowtop
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Autozone shows Odyssey to be less expensive than Optima.

Optima shows to have more CCA than Odyssey, but I didnít know if I was selecting the right Odyssey part number.


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Iíve only posted this once before in another thread ó most glossed over it. They didnít make these before for the JK, because a few years ago I checked when I found my cheap OEM clamps wouldnít stay tight. I think the reason Iíve gone through two batteries.

If you purchase and install these... you should start a thread, do a write up and showcase your setup. No one here I know has made the investment in these heavy duty cables.

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Went with duralast gold from autozone. 170 bucks 3 year replacement 2 year prorated.


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Definitely go with an AGM battery.

If you want the best performance AGM available then look at the Enersys or Nortstar options.

If you want the best value AGM, then look at any of the East Penn available options.

If you want something between an East Penn and an Enersys, then look at the Exide batteries.

If you want the most over priced AGM that no longer lives up to the hype, then purchase an Optima from Johnson Controls.

Most everything outside of that, are just brand names stamped on the outside of those options.


*Note: The Sears Diehard Platinum is no longer available. That used to be the best value, high performance Enersys AGM option.


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Went with duralast gold from autozone. 170 bucks 3 year replacement 2 year prorated.


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I believe that is an East Penn AGM battery which is in the good value AGM category. If you look into the spec ratings on that battery, it will align with the other East Penn AGM batteries on my list.


Post the specs, I haven't had a chance to dig into that Duralast Gold battery to confirm.
CCA @ 0deg F=?
Weight=?
Reserve Capacity=?
Amp Hours @ 20 Hr Rate=?

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Just looked at that battery. The gold series is not an AGM. You need to step into the Platiinum series to get an AGM. I think you may have been able to do better with one of the East Penn AGM's in a similar price range.
https://www.autozone.com/batteries-s...6_929944_25698
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Latest updates to my battery comparison matrix. Need to figure out who makes the Duralast and Autocraft branded AGM batteries, but it's pretty obvious they're made by the same manufacturer. Really the only things different about them are the stickers on the outside and who sells them. Autozone vs Advanced Auto.
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Definitely go with an AGM battery.

If you want the best performance AGM available then look at the Enersys or Nortstar options.

If you want the best value AGM, then look at any of the East Penn available options.

If you want something between an East Penn and an Enersys, then look at the Exide batteries.

If you want the most over priced AGM that no longer lives up to the hype, then purchase an Optima from Johnson Controls.

Most everything outside of that, are just brand names stamped on the outside of those options.


*Note: The Sears Diehard Platinum is no longer available. That used to be the best value, high performance Enersys AGM option.

I bought a Sears Diehard AGM made by DEKA and it only lasted two years. I went to replace it and the Sears auto center close to me was closed down. I was forced to travel across town to find one of the few Sears auto centers that remain open.

Although I got a free replacement, I wouldn’t buy another Sears Diehard.

You should look at ACDelco AGM batteries and see where they fall into the scheme of things. It looks like a DEKA...

https://www.acdelco.com/auto-parts/c...m-battery.html

I’m equally concerned about availability and ease of replacement...


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Alright folks. What about lead acid recommendations? I can’t bring myself to drop 300 on a battery especially since I’m not that “extreme” with my vehicle.
I installed an Interstate Mega-Tron Plus MT48/H6 in my wife's JK. With a factory rebate, I bought it from Firestone for around $125 back in 2015. It's still working great. Comes with a 6-yr warranty.

I chose the Interstate mainly because of good reviews here on the Wrangler forum.
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Old 06-03-2019, 01:37 AM   #45
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Over the years, I have had many vehicles, and many batteries. I had a Die Hard Gold series battery that was purchased around 1981 that worked perfectly for much longer than I ever expected (until it was stolen around 1991-1992). It was replaced with a newer version of that same battery, with the replacement lasting about 18 months. It was replaced with a new and pro-rated battery under warranty, and I bought a second Die Hard Gold battery for another vehicle that same year- the second also failed at about the 18 month mark.

Lest anyone think I am a fanboi, I have only ever purchased one Optima AGM battery- a Red Top that I bought when the OEM battery in my '98 XJ tanked at about the 24 month mark. I got a deal on that Optima at Costco, with higher CCA ratings and a better reserve rating than the OEM battery it replaced. I ran it hard with a big aftermarket stereo and steady drain from a pager alarm with zero issues. When used correctly (as a starting battery with no excessive ignition-off drain or deep discharge), I found it to be reliable. That Optima did just fine for almost 9 years before it began to discharge and failed to properly take a charge, so no complaints there. Many dissatisfied Optima customers with bad experiences with Red Tops have unrealistic expectations- they aren't intended for deep cycle type discharge, and don't last very long if allowed to discharge below 10V...outside of the Red Top's intended use. Not all AGM batteries are created with the same philosophy of use. Having been involved in car audio for a long time, it never ceased to amaze me with how many people equate an AGM battery as being the same as an AGM deep cycle battery and being surprised when they run into issues after discharging one made for starting purposes only. For big sound systems with lots of ignition-off listening, or for winching without the engine running, a deep cycle AGM battery would be the way to go. In some cases, a dual AGM battery setup would be even better.

In the last few decades, I have had a number of OEM (and a few aftermarket) batteries fail in normal use between 18 and 24 months. I think it is safe to say many newer batteries aren't made to the same standards that older quality batteries were once made to. If I had to buy a new battery for my Jeep tomorrow, I'd probably go with the best AGM I could afford, likely an Odyssey, Northstar, or something comparable.
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Exide is changing their distributorship network and having a re-org. Curious how the dust will settle; their history isn't very good in that department.

And anecdotal ponderings on the decline of Optima are, ummm, exaggerated to say the least. They're producing more reliable batteries than ever. JCI is a very healthy company right now with very good resources.
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I'd stay away from Optima batteries unless they have improved a lot over the last 15 years. I went through 2 in 3 years here in Michigan. They didn't survive the winter. Way too expensive.
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I'd stay away from Optima batteries unless they have improved a lot over the last 15 years. I went through 2 in 3 years here in Michigan. They didn't survive the winter. Way too expensive.

Well to be fair to the Optimas, as @basicxj pointed out, you really need to know how you'll be using that battery ahead of time and choose the correct color to match.

Many purchase the red top which is strictly a starter battery then use it on a Jeep for winching and other conditions which will drain that starter battery down. Starter batteries aren't happy once they start falling below 75% of full charge, and once you start reaching that 50% of full charge area life expectancy starts to decline rapidly.

With that said, I don't know the reasons why anyone would choose a red top starter battery over the Yellow or Blue top deep cycle batteries. Throw in the fact that those red top batteries need to have a good working alternator charging system, putting out a high enough voltage to properly charge them and some of our JK alternators have been known to put out lower than optimal voltages. What are you really gaining with a red top, a few more CCA's when starting at the same price of the Yellow top? I'ld get a Yellow top at minimum for a JK if I were to get an Optima so those conditions are much more reduced if they do occur and less likely to kill the battery.


A decent micro controller charger would be a must have to pair it up with as well.
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I have the 34R-PC1500T. Currently $295 on Amazon.
I use this battery, installed Oct 2017, and have the 20A Odyssey charger, which works on other brand agm batteries also.
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Here is a link to the batteries that we offer: https://www.quadratec.com/categories/jeep_electrical/batteries_charging/batteries

The most popular that we offer are:

Odyssey Battery:

https://www.quadratec.com/products/17003_2001_07.htm



Optima Batteries SC34DU 12 Volt Yellow Top:

https://www.quadratec.com/products/17003_02.htm



Optima Batteries SC34U 12 Volt Red Top Starter Battery:

https://www.quadratec.com/products/17003_01.htm



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Although I have an Odyssey in the TJ, I got a Bosch Platinum for my Civic Si. Worked great for a year until I sold it.

Odyssey gets my vote though.
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Iíve had really good luck with Odyssey Spiral AGMís on my boat. Iíve never considered buying a battery off the internet though. How do people deal with core charges and disposal of their old batteries and any warranty issues with the new internet purchased batteries? Seems like return shipping charges would be really high for a heavy battery.
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Iíve had really good luck with Odyssey Spiral AGMís on my boat. Iíve never considered buying a battery off the internet though. How do people deal with core charges and disposal of their old batteries and any warranty issues with the new internet purchased batteries? Seems like return shipping charges would be really high for a heavy battery.
No core charge. I keep at least one extra older battery around anyway in case I need to jump start the tractor or the wife leaves her dome light on or something. You can always go give it to Advance or Vatozone if you don't want it sitting around, you just won't usually get a refund for it. Once I accumulated like 3 or 4 of them from various cars I gave all but one of them to a buddy who was running some sort of crazy electrical project.

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Odyssey Extreme or North Star AGM batteries for my heaps from now on!!! I have personally had 2 Optima's die in less than 2 years. Not worth the big bucks. Garbage made in Mexico. No way!!! Support the AMERICAN Workers.
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Latest updates to my battery comparison matrix. Need to figure out who makes the Duralast and Autocraft branded AGM batteries, but it's pretty obvious they're made by the same manufacturer. Really the only things different about them are the stickers on the outside and who sells them. Autozone vs Advanced Auto.
I'll be putting an Autocraft Platinum AGM in later today. Jeep was built in October of 2016 and the beotch was dead as a doornail this morning when I went to leave. Pisses me off, as my 2013 Focus ST OEM battery lasted a tad over 5 years.
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I'll be putting an Autocraft Platinum AGM in later today. Jeep was built in October of 2016 and the beotch was dead as a doornail this morning when I went to leave. Pisses me off, as my 2013 Focus ST OEM battery lasted a tad over 5 years.

Cool, let us know any additional information you find. Where it's made may be a clue since everything from Johnson Controls seems to be Mexico with the rest being USA.
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Cool, let us know any additional information you find. Where it's made may be a clue since everything from Johnson Controls seems to be Mexico with the rest being USA.
JCI makes most of their batteries in Wisconsin ---- just their Optimas in Mexico as far as I know.
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JCI makes most of their batteries in Wisconsin ---- just their Optimas in Mexico as far as I know.
My Walmart Everstart Maxx was made by JCI in Spain.
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JCI makes most of their batteries in Wisconsin ---- just their Optimas in Mexico as far as I know.

The Interstate I got on my list is made by JCI in Mexico. Likely the key point to keep in mind is that we're focusing on AGM batteries. Does JCI make most of their AGM type of batteries in Wisconsin?

What other Group size 34 AGMs does JCI make? I'ld like to add them to my list, especially if they're not made in Mexico.

So far with some of my research some have stated the Advanced Auto Platinum is made by JCI and others have said Enersys. A stamp on the battery saying Made in Mexico and it being an AGM battery would seem to make the fingers point more towards the AAP being a JCI battery than an Enersys is all I'm saying.
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My Walmart Everstart Maxx was made by JCI in Spain.

Not an AGM battery, seems to be standard flooded lead acid type.

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