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Old 07-11-2015, 09:33 PM
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Best set up for regular commuter

Ok straight up I'm looking for a regular commuter. 4 door JK sahara more than likely. I figure 80% of the time will be regular driving 20% will be more beach time or basic trails....no serious crawling. 17" wheels seem to look best with 35's on the 4 door. What lift is realistic without major mods like driveshaft etc and something that will handle Texas highway speeds...70-80mph. The more I dig into the forum the more I learn but in some ways the more confused I become wants we start talking ratios and tire weights and ugh high school algebra....
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Plain and simple, a 2.5" lift is usually the most popular to fit 35's with no other modifications needed. Check out Teraflex and their 2.5 coil lift either with or without shocks. Teraflex actually has a great video on their YouTube channel about selecting the appropriate lift for your needs. Watch it and you'll feel better about your choice

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Hi Lonestar,
I have been in your shoes, and finally after a year I pulled the trigger on a lift, wheels and tires. I have done a lot of research and for what you are describing, I would have to say AEV would be your best bet, although I went with RK, I also only drive about 3-5K miles per year, and a lot of farm and fields, for my business. Also Teraflex is very popular and my good friend has a Teraflex and loves it. My thoughts would be either one of those would be your best bet without breaking the bank, but doing it right. Hope this helps, and best of luck to you.
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Just subscribed to the Youtube channel...I'll be on here for hours :-) Then on to the AEV....MarkJ38 and issues with highway speeds?
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Best for a commuter going 80mph? Stock. Or maybe a budget boost with aggressive 33s.


I'll be over here in the minority of folks focused more on functionality than looks.
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I have the Teraflex 2.5 and it handles great in the highway, no issues
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I am installing my lift this coming weekend, so highway speeds I will tell you afterwards. My buddy that has the Teraflex lift with bilstein 5100's, the highway and city driving is great considering he has a 4 inch lift and 37's. I have done a lot of reading and from what I have gathered the AEV is better than stock ride, and everything comes with the kit, so it is a complete kit all meant to work together. I am going with a 2.5 lift for my 14 JKURX. I know you will be spending hours and hours researching, and like I said it took me a year to finally be comfortable pulling the trigger and having no regrets. Do your homework, and if you have any other questions you always know where to find a ton of information. :-)
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Lonestar, being fairly new to the forum, please disregard those who quickly jump to the always lovely passive aggressive post but like markj38 said, do your homework, ask questions bc there really is a mountain of knowledge on this forum, and you'll be extremely pleased with your outcome. Welcome to the family and can't wait to see your progress
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How long is your daily commute? I assume Texas is rather flat which would help minimize need for regearing. Why do you assume you'll go Sahara over Sport?
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Best for a commuter going 80mph? Stock. Or maybe a budget boost with aggressive 33s.


I'll be over here in the minority of folks focused more on functionality than looks.
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Lonestar, being fairly new to the forum, please disregard those who quickly jump to the always lovely passive aggressive post
I assume you're referring to my recommendation of minimal modding. Nothing passive aggressive, just speaking from experience.

Bought a JK and did your exact recommend setup, then felt the need to gusset and sleeve, then needed to regear when I moved into the mountains. Went from 21mpg to 16.5mpg. Jeep drove straight but required tons of input from the driver in strong crosswinds.

I don't regret any of it. But it was certainly not ideal for a "commuter". A stock or lightly modded Jeep will do just fine in the Beach the other 20% of the time.
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Lonestar, being fairly new to the forum, please disregard those who quickly jump to the always lovely passive aggressive post but like markj38 said, do your homework, ask questions bc there really is a mountain of knowledge on this forum, and you'll be extremely pleased with your outcome. Welcome to the family and can't wait to see your progress
Thumbs up for being helpful to someone asking a simple question. I'm in the same league as the OP, modding for an aesthetic more so than capability and I appreciate the positive feedback.
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Also in the same shoes, but after talking to some of the off-roading/rock crawling guys down at the beach.. I think I might have to focus a lot on off roading. But I've heard Teraflex is the best with Bilsten 5100 shocks!
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I know this all seems confusing at first, but I think you'll save yourself a lot of future headaches if you get it right from the beginning. There are a lot of threads on here with folks asking how to fix mistakes, or complaining about the loss of drivability after modifications.

I too like the looks of 35's, but have kept my JKUR stock since it goes anywhere I need it to go off-road, drives great on-road and gets 20 mpg highway.

If you want 35's, I think the 2.5" lift is a great choice. All of the manufacturers mentioned are good, but I would go with AEV. I think they offer a great balance between on and off-road drivability. My buddy has this exact set up and loves it.

Without getting deep in the weeds, make sure you have at least 3.73 gears in your Jeep, or else your drivability will suffer with the larger diameter tires. Good luck.
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Ok straight up I'm looking for a regular commuter. 4 door JK sahara more than likely. I figure 80% of the time will be regular driving 20% will be more beach time or basic trails....no serious crawling. 17" wheels seem to look best with 35's on the 4 door.
Leave it stock. 18" wheels look great on the Sahara, especially the 7-spoke polished ones. If you start screwing it up with a lift, oversize wheels, etc., you will adversely affect how it handles on the road.
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Don't overlook the Rancho 2" Sport levelling lift c/w 9000XL adjustable shocks. What a set-up for the money.
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Best for a commuter going 80mph? Stock. Or maybe a budget boost with aggressive 33s.


I'll be over here in the minority of folks focused more on functionality than looks.
Didn't read all of the posts, saw this one and realized I am in the same boat as far as opinion. To give a little background....My '12 JK and '14 JKU got very similar mpgs when stock.

Our JKU never sees "off road" so does very well for mpgs 17-19 around town and over 20 on the highway...consistently. (at 65-70mph)

The JK became the "wheeling rig" after the sale of the TJ. It got a SLIGHTLY more aggressive A/T tire, in stock size, and a small (Old Man Emu) lift. My mileage dropped some, not sure how much...but enough to notice.

I added HEAVY bumpers, and a heavy Warn winch, and my mpgs are down 10-15% from stock.

My Jeep is by no means, "built". It does what I need it to do, which is DD with some highway and more than "mild" off road/ "fire trails". It works for me.

Understand I KNEW the "pay for playing" was more than the cost of parts. The lower mpgs is a very real part of the pay for playing part. At 80 mph IMO you will be lucky to see 17mpg on the highway in stock form. If you start switching tires and lifting you COULD easily end up at 12-13mpg on the highway. Again part of the "pay to play"...its not just about the cost of the parts. GOOD LUCK!!
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Best set up for regular commuting with the occasional light trail or beach and high speed freeway time is bone stock.

Maybe a 33" mild to moderate AT.

If you really want to lift it to go with even larger wheels, you should probably not go higher than 2.5 inches.
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I am installing my lift this coming weekend, so highway speeds I will tell you afterwards. My buddy that has the Teraflex lift with bilstein 5100's, the highway and city driving is great considering he has a 4 inch lift and 37's. I have done a lot of reading and from what I have gathered the AEV is better than stock ride, and everything comes with the kit, so it is a complete kit all meant to work together. I am going with a 2.5 lift for my 14 JKURX. I know you will be spending hours and hours researching, and like I said it took me a year to finally be comfortable pulling the trigger and having no regrets. Do your homework, and if you have any other questions you always know where to find a ton of information. :-)
let me know how the install goes...was watching a you tube vid and it showed cutting into the frame etc...would be curious to see how it goes
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Lonestar, being fairly new to the forum, please disregard those who quickly jump to the always lovely passive aggressive post but like markj38 said, do your homework, ask questions bc there really is a mountain of knowledge on this forum, and you'll be extremely pleased with your outcome. Welcome to the family and can't wait to see your progress
all with a grain of salt...so much info and the more I dig in the more questions....but it's all good. Thanks for input
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How long is your daily commute? I assume Texas is rather flat which would help minimize need for regearing. Why do you assume you'll go Sahara over Sport?
regularly run 2+ hours but my commute is short now but anticipate that changing in the near future...closer to 35-45 mins. Also I thought I was convinced on the Sahara but if I go sport than I would have more mod money...the one consistent in the threads is this is an expensive lifestyle
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Lonestar, I have a bone stock Sahara and it comes stock with 32" tires (P255/70R18). A month after I bought it, I made a trip back to Texas for class reunion and Muster. As I had another trip planned the next weekend and our events were not over until Wednesday morning, that is when I left College Station coming back to S. Georgia. Of course the worst part of the trip was the construction on US290 in Houston. But once clear of that I got it rolling. Overall, 910 miles in 14 hours stopping only for food and pit stops (for me and the Jeep).

Best highway vehicle I have ever owned, and since this was my 50th class reunion, the list is long. You sit upright and the seat had good lateral support. When I sat in it on the dealers lot, I knew it was the one. Not the smoothest ride, but more in control. For the first month, I was wondering to myself if I had done the right thing going to a second Jeep, but after that trip, there was no doubt in my mind.

If you go with the Sahara, the tires are already 3" taller than the stock Sport tires (P225/75R16) at 29". The Sport S does have 32" tires (P255/75R17). Just remember that the wider the tire, the lower the gas mileage, the more ground clearance, the lower the gas mileage, the higher the gear ratio, the lower the gas mileage.

If you are traveling at 74 with 32" tires you are turning 2000 RPM, but to do that speed with 3.73 gears it takes 2320 RPM and with 4.11 gearing it takes 2560 RPM.

If later you want to fill the wheel wells a bit more the 265/70R18s are a 33" tire and should not rub unless you are at the extremes of the suspension flex, which would be rare and would not affect the mileage that much. You should get the new size entered into the computer though so all the calculations for speed, MPG and engine control are correct.
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Lonestar, I have a bone stock Sahara and it comes stock with 32" tires (P255/70R18). A month after I bought it, I made a trip back to Texas for class reunion and Muster. As I had another trip planned the next weekend and our events were not over until Wednesday morning, that is when I left College Station coming back to S. Georgia. Of course the worst part of the trip was the construction on US290 in Houston. But once clear of that I got it rolling. Overall, 910 miles in 14 hours stopping only for food and pit stops (for me and the Jeep). Best highway vehicle I have ever owned, and since this was my 50th class reunion, the list is long. You sit upright and the seat had good lateral support. When I sat in it on the dealers lot, I knew it was the one. Not the smoothest ride, but more in control. For the first month, I was wondering to myself if I had done the right thing going to a second Jeep, but after that trip, there was no doubt in my mind. If you go with the Sahara, the tires are already 3" taller than the stock Sport tires (P225/75R16) at 29". The Sport S does have 32" tires (P255/75R17). Just remember that the wider the tire, the lower the gas mileage, the more ground clearance, the lower the gas mileage, the higher the gear ratio, the lower the gas mileage. If you are traveling at 74 with 32" tires you are turning 2000 RPM, but to do that speed with 3.73 gears it takes 2320 RPM and with 4.11 gearing it takes 2560 RPM. If later you want to fill the wheel wells a bit more the 265/70R18s are a 33" tire and should not rub unless you are at the extremes of the suspension flex, which would be rare and would not affect the mileage that much. You should get the new size entered into the computer though so all the calculations for speed, MPG and engine control are correct.
green thanks that was exactly the info I was looking for. Appreciate the comments from everybody

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