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Old 01-04-2013, 05:07 PM
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Bestop Black Twill replacement or Black Twill Supertop NX?

I'm looking at getting a new soft top. The weather in GA is mild enough to go soft all year. The soft top on my 2011 2dr was not taken care of very well by the original owner. It's spotty and the windows are scratched pretty bad. I really like the look of bestop's black twill and I really want tinted windows so it seems to be the best option. What i'm not sure of is if my factory hardware is good enough or if bestop's door surrounds and header are of better quality.

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Old 01-13-2013, 05:55 PM
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guess no one has any experience with the black twill yet. is the black diamond sail cloth a darker black than OEM? i really just wanting a better looking top and tinted windows to replace the OEM that is faded and has tree sap/mud stains that won't come off. Pretty much thinking of going with a bestop repace a top since i don't really need new hardware.

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Did you get your top new top yet? Did you go with the black twill?
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I just put my new BLACK TWILL top on today. The fabric is awesome, like cloth. It is very, very black and not at all reflective so it looks deep. I haven't driven anywhere with it so no comment on the noise, but the look inside is very upscale too with a patterned black finish. My main concern with the twill is that it is going to attract/show dust, but will have to see. It looks great out of the box, though.

Bestop told me that the the Black Twill is the same top material as the Mopar premium top for 2013, so you might be able to find one at a dealer to see what it looks like. As for the hardware, the instructions for the Mopar premium and the NX are identical except the NX has aluminum arch support (which broke at the connectors when I tried to put them on) that are truly ugly and unneeded. Also, it appears the Mopar top comes unconnected to the header where the NX is already screwed down.
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Black twill came in last week. It's really nice, just waiting for a warm day to install it
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I just put my new BLACK TWILL top on today.
what was the temperature when you installed yours? Instructions say 75 degrees + but I'm getting impatient. It might be 65-70 on friday, think I can get away with it?
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what was the temperature when you installed yours? Instructions say 75 degrees + but I'm getting impatient. It might be 65-70 on friday, think I can get away with it?
80-85. I assembled the bows in the house where it was room temp. Then I took it outside. The top material gets very warm in just a little sun (sun is warmer here though). It did not seem all that tight. There are several screws that are needed to hold the top to the bows, and you might have to stretch and fight a bit. I just loosened the top latches and the sail corners and slid things into place. I did that this am when it was on about 60 degrees but the top was warm from sun shine. I think you would be ok if you have sun and just let it sit in the sun draped over the bows for a while to expand.
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I've read some postings on this forum of people using a space heater placed inside the JK to warm up the top from the inside before the final stretch and hookup. Supposed to help when it isn't quite warm enough outside.
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Your hardware is fine, I would go with the replace a top and save some money.
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I just put my new BLACK TWILL top on today. The fabric is awesome, like cloth. It is very, very black and not at all reflective so it looks deep. I haven't driven anywhere with it so no comment on the noise, but the look inside is very upscale too with a patterned black finish. My main concern with the twill is that it is going to attract/show dust, but will have to see. It looks great out of the box, though.

Bestop told me that the the Black Twill is the same top material as the Mopar premium top for 2013, so you might be able to find one at a dealer to see what it looks like. As for the hardware, the instructions for the Mopar premium and the NX are identical except the NX has aluminum arch support (which broke at the connectors when I tried to put them on) that are truly ugly and unneeded. Also, it appears the Mopar top comes unconnected to the header where the NX is already screwed down.
I just recently put this same twill top on too. Mine broke in the same place due to those top arches. The place where those top arches fit into needs to be metal not plastic or they need to make those top arches a little smaller because they have no give in them and are too tight.

I sent a photo along with my opinion to who I purchased it from and Bestop. They sent me out a new door surround to replace the one with the broke piece. I have yet to try and put the top arch back on because I think it is going to just break again. Someone on here said you don't really need it but I kind of wanted to use it.

Anyway, I'm happy with the quality of the fabric. I have not been out in any rainstorms yet so can't say if it leaks or not. Oh yeah, I installed it in lower 70's and had to run my heater full blast to help loosen the fabric up. Mine was super tight and hard to install the windows. Hope it stretches out just a little.
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This thread is a quit a few months old now but I would like to address those of you who had purchased the twill top from bestop. I am thinking of getting the twill replace a top to replace my OEM on my 2010 2 door sport. My OEM is in perfect condition, but I was thinking of switching it out for the twill because of the extreme cold conditions we have in North Dakota during the winter. My Jeep is my daily driver and use it everyday. Is the twill top easier to use then the OEM when cold? How does it fit compared to OEM? I really like the deep black look and it advertises it has superior flexability during cold temps compaired to sailcloth or OEM. What are your thoughts on this.
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Im interested in this as a fellow north dakotan
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Bump: Those of you who have purchased the Twill top from Best top and have had it on for a while now what are your current reviews. Is this really a better top then what comes factory on pre 2013 wranglers. I have the OEM mopar top, sail cloth type material on my 2010 2 door sport. The OEM top I have is in really good condition except for the window. They are the clear non tinted windows and really scratched up. I did buy the bestop replacement windows and they are much thinner then the OEM windows. I am not satisfied with the purchase. I need thicker to withstand the extreme cold we get in North Dakota. This is why I am asking for as much info as I can get from 1st hand users of the New Twill top from bestop.
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bump!! How does this tp deal with the Mud and mud stains??
Also someone mention the arches - This is not present in the mopar version - is it needed?
Does this tp fit nice and tight?
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bump!! How does this tp deal with the Mud and mud stains??
Also someone mention the arches - This is not present in the mopar version - is it needed?
Does this tp fit nice and tight?
It holds up very well. I haven't had any problems cleaning mine after a day out on the trails.


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