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Old 09-19-2011, 11:21 AM
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Daystar 1-3/4" Comfort Ride Lift Kit with Scorpion Shocks

Was thinking of getting this kit today. Any feedback on it or the shocks used in it? Got pics of it installed?



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Was thinking of getting this kit today. Any feedback on it or the shocks used in it? Got pics of it installed?

That is the EXACT setup I want. I could keep near-stock ride with a small lift, and not have to get larger tires. It would complement a Re-Gear good as well!

My biggest and most important reason for getting this cheaper "Budget Boost" type.....it is made in the USA by fellow Americans. That means tremendous importance to me in the days of junk made in China! Good luck, when i do a lift, this is the setup I will get.

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I wouldn't get this if you've got a JKU. Your jeep is heavier than mine and the 1.5-2.0" kits don't make nearly the difference on them as they do on the 2 doors. I would go with either the Rubi Express 2.5" kit with shocks or a Teraflex 2.5" kit with shocks.
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I am assuming those are not gas shocks but the sale price on the kit is pretty nice. Anyone had experience with the shocks? Pretty cheap deal with shocks for around $270
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I am assuming those are not gas shocks but the sale price on the kit is pretty nice. Anyone had experience with the shocks? Pretty cheap deal with shocks for around $270
I would like to clarify this as well. Is they gas? I don't know if I really care because the kit is what I want and the new shocks will look good.
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I'd be pretty damn surprised if they were anything but your basic hydro shock that comes with these types of lifts. Indeed, if they were much better, surely DayStar would advertise it like crazy.

But still, if you're happy with the stock sport shocks, these really shouldn't be a step down or anything. If you like the look, they could be perfect.
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I'd be pretty damn surprised if they were anything but your basic hydro shock that comes with these types of lifts. Indeed, if they were much better, surely DayStar would advertise it like crazy.

But still, if you're happy with the stock sport shocks, these really shouldn't be a step down or anything. If you like the look, they could be perfect.
Got an up close look at them on another forum, they are hydro. So should I get the kit? huh huh? eh?
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Looking over what comes in this kit, I see that it has rear sway bar drop brackets. Is there a reason Daystar does this when both Rubi Express and Teraflex do not offer it with their comparable kits? Can anyone say what is necessary for 1.75-2.0" inches of lift? All the different lay outs of these kits is crazy.
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Looking over what comes in this kit, I see that it has rear sway bar drop brackets. Is there a reason Daystar does this when both Rubi Express and Teraflex do not offer it with their comparable kits? Can anyone say what is necessary for 1.75-2.0" inches of lift? All the different lay outs of these kits is crazy.
I've also never been able to fully figure out some of these issues. Here's another one for you to look at that doesn't include links at all.

Different budget boosts offering similar amounts of lift nevertheless include a dizzying array of different features. Some ~2" lifts include bump stops. Some include sway links. Some have a track bar bracket. Some don't have any of those things.

And those are just the variances we can clearly see through the websites. There could be more. For example, if we took a tape measure to some of the included shocks, would you be surprised to learn that the shocks included with one company's 2" lift might actually be slightly longer or shorter than those included with another company's 2" lift? How likely is it that the "shock extensions" included with various 2" lifts are really the same length across all brands, or that all the "bump stop extensions" are all the same height? Do the track bar brackets really all relocate the track bar to the exact same position? Further, some "level" by separating the front and rear by 1", others "level" by 1/2", still others "level" by putting them 3/4" apart, and yet others don't level at all.

Yet people all run these kits, often without supplementing them to include the items that were already included with other kits.

From all this, the only thing I can conclude is . . . at around 2", it probably doesn't much matter.

Will there be more pull on your front sway bar if you install a 2" lift without extended links than if you in fact do install extended links? Of course. Will it matter? Probably not. At least not in the near term. Could limit your flex somewhat, I suppose. Might also lessen body roll while cornering. Will you have problems installing a 2" lift without adjusting your bumpstops? Probably not, unless you flex a lot, then you might damage your shocks or rub your fenders.

The point is though that at the end of the day, you're installing a modest BUDGET boost, not an $2200 4.5" AEV DualSport. All of the reputable kits seem reasonably capable of being installed--as is--on a JK and leaving you roadworthy and trailworthy. Is it possible (perhaps even likely) that you'll want to supplement them down the line with longer links, or higher bumpstops, or a new track bar, or better shocks, etc. etc.? Of course. Are those things all mandated simply because you can find examples of kits where they're included in the first instance? It doesn't appear so.

As far as I can recall, there have been very few posts where folks *properly* installed budget boosts and ended up with significant adverse handling or were otherwise rendered undriveable. Indeed, the most common review--for lifts around the 2" mark--seems to be "it rides just like stock," whether the kit happened to include new sway links but not bumpstops, or bumpstops but not sway links, or a track bar bracket but no bumpstops or sway links.

That's my completely unscientific assessment.
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That was completely awesome and completely un helpful hahahah kidding ...kidding. Very helpful actually because it re-affirms what I've been formulating in my head all along. Around 2" of lift meaning up to 2.5 and below, there is no real worry about getting the wrong things in a kit or not. In my own personal opinion, I think that if you are going to go to a 2" height whether it be springs or coils, if would be a good idea to have longer sway links, at least rear bump stops, new longer shocks "gas preferably" and even possibly if needed...the ability to adjust the track bars to re center the axles.

On another note, can anyone chime in on what rear sway bar brackets do and how they are installed? This kit is missing install directions (which is also very helpful) which could show how to install them. I was thinking it may be better to not install them but to simply order longer sway bar links for the rear to accompany the kit. I've got a good price on the Daystar 1 3/4 inch kit so I need some convincing if I should get another.

Ok I'm making an unofficial poll here below for all replies beyond this. I've got 33x12.5R15 tires and do not plan to go larger in the future. I will always run 33s on my jeep. You guys can reply with which kit and why.

Get a 1.75" lift?
Get a 2.0" lift?
Get a 2.5" lift?
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I leaning towards the 2" Teraflex leveling kit still at this point. The Daystar is pretty cheap but the 2" Teraflex is $127 without shocks (2" front/1" rear). I figure I can get gas shocks with the savings. It is funny, that this kit doesn't com with the rear track bar brackets but rather has longer sway bar links and quick disconnect links.

I have found some extremely cheap gas shocks from one of the forum vendors that with the Teraflex kit won't cost much more then the Daystar kit with regular shocks.

Has anyone had any experience with the Zone Gas Shocks? For the price offered to me they seem to be a great deal compared to other gas shocks I have looked at.



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My concern is that I'm running 3/4 spacers right now and my tires are rubbing on the flares so I'm thinking I need to get larger than just 1" in the back as provided by the TF leveling kit. This is why I've been looking at the 1.75" kits from Daystar and even the 2" kit from Rubi Express. I've lost some interest in the Rubi kit because I've started to come across some pretty negative reviews on some of their part qualities. I don't know if this is true though. I'm only going by the good ole forums which can be as varied as the weather when your trying to wheel.

Here's my biggest concern...

If I were to install the TF 2.5 kit, I'm worried about DW, track bar alignment, front and rear shaft issues...it just seems to be right on the fence of "some get problems some don't." I really can't afford to take that chance and unfortunately, I'm left with not really knowing many people who've seriously wheeled with those kits on their 2 doors and had them installed for a long time.
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Yeah, I have the 19/60 coil swap so I guess thats why I don't have any rubbing issue with my bigger tires. I just have 1" Teraflex leveling spacer up front and nothing on back now. The 2" leveling kit gets me an extra 1" front and rear and with the extra lift I got with the coils swap should make for a nice look on for me.
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Those Zone nitro shocks look good? Any 1st hand knowledge with them? Comparable to?
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They are less then half the cost of Blistien 5100's. I have found one review and it was good. I think they are only a year old shock so not a lot of reviews that I can find

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I'm not ignoring you guys, but

None of my suspension mods will work on your 2dr JKs and

Any lift up to 2" lift, doesn't NEED new track bars, they're only for mfgs profit and the jeep owners dissatisfaction with the offset axles--99% of the time it won't affect tracking and the pinion angle offset, is minor and the DS universals handle it fine-

Any compressed air shock will add to your new lift--whatever it is. hydro shocks won't-

I personally wouldn't recommend any shock that was in the, "below" $75 dollar cost !

I don't recommend reservoir shocks, unless your in competition or spend full days with full flex and don't take any cooldown breaks !!

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I have this kit on my rubi 1 3/4 daystar comfort ride (without shocks) got a full two inches of lift and have 33's on it and i think it looks perfect and rides great
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I have this kit on my rubi 1 3/4 daystar comfort ride (without shocks) got a full two inches of lift and have 33's on it and i think it looks perfect and rides great
Are you using the Scorpion shocks that come with it or something else? Got any side pics of your rig?
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Stock shocks .check out the thread " show your 33's"
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I'm not ignoring you guys, but

None of my suspension mods will work on your 2dr JKs and

Any lift up to 2" lift, doesn't NEED new track bars, they're only for mfgs profit and the jeep owners dissatisfaction with the offset axles--99% of the time it won't affect tracking and the pinion angle offset, is minor and the DS universals handle it fine-

Any compressed air shock will add to your new lift--whatever it is. hydro shocks won't-

I personally wouldn't recommend any shock that was in the, "below" $75 dollar cost !

I don't recommend reservoir shocks, unless your in competition or spend full days with full flex and don't take any cooldown breaks !!

There, see I was watching you !!

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Jimbo, do you have any opinions on when you need longer sway links?

I feel like my front stockers already look short with the HD (19/60) coil conversion and a 3/4" puck, which I'd guess netted me about 1.5". The sway bar itself is no longer level with the ground but instead pulls toward the ground, which in my (uneducated) eyes ought to be the harbinger of my links being too short.

Looking to move to a 2.5" BB soon, and I know this issue is on Jude's (ESP123's) mind too . . .
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A lift UP TO 2" over stock doesn't need longer links--UNLESS


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Jimbo, do you have any opinions on when you need longer sway links?

I feel like my front stockers already look short with the HD (19/60) coil conversion and a 3/4" puck, which I'd guess netted me about 1.5". The sway bar itself is no longer level with the ground but instead pulls toward the ground, which in my (uneducated) eyes ought to be the harbinger of my links being too short.

Looking to move to a 2.5" BB soon, and I know this issue is on Jude's (ESP123's) mind too . . .
You do a BUNCH of off-road extreme flexing and then only if you DON'T DISCO !!

The routine swaybar "end" travel is minimal, on the street and moderate off-road-

Now since you've already got a Daystar "leveling" set-up and you're going to the 2.5" BB, might be a good time to get quick discos--the right length-

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Stock shocks .check out the thread " show your 33's"
I'm only seeing two pictures of your jeep and no additional info in the "show your 33's" thread.

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