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Old 12-18-2017, 10:15 PM
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Deleting the FM radio antenna and using CB antenna instead - highly recommend!

I had posted a while back trying to figure out how this would be possible. Well, I finally installed everything tonight and it turned great!

Now what do I mean by this?

Certain sellers online have a CB/FM splitter. It lets you use a CB antenna for both CB and FM radio reception. This can allow you to delete the FM radio from the front of the car. I preferred this approach for a few reasons:

-I would always hit stuff with the stock antenna
-The antenna was in front of my A-pillar lights
-I'm a big fan of symmetry

Plus I wanted to install the CB radio anyways. Using this setup, I now have BETTER FM reception than I had with the stock antenna, and I was able to get a 1.2 SWR when tuning the radio earlier. Not bad if I say so myself!

The point of this post was to help others who wanted to do it as well. I ran behind schedule so wasn't able to make a full writeup, but here are the parts you need:


The only other thing you may need, and this is just for the CB install in general, is a spare tire spacer. My stock 17" wheel contacts the antenna, so I added a Teraflex spare tire spacer. Also, you don't have to put the antenna on the tailgate. It can be placed anywhere on the vehicle that you can reach with cable! If you pick a different mounting location, then certain items on this list won't apply (mostly the spare tire CB mount).

Maybe no one will use this, but I can hope!

EDIT: If you want to do this mod but have no use for a CB radio, then your parts list would be:


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Old 12-18-2017, 10:25 PM
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Here's a pic of the antenna delete!

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Here's a pic of the antenna delete!

I like it!!! Where did you all the materials from as I would really like to do this when I get back from my military overseas deployment. I really want to delete the stock antenna and move it to the back by the spare tire!

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Where are the pics from the back of the Jeep? Like to see that too. 👍

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Where are the pics from the back of the Jeep? Like to see that too. 👍

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Here you go! I'll add links to the stuff I bought in a minute.



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Where are the pics from the back of the Jeep? Like to see that too. 👍

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I updated the original post, the list of items now links to what I bought
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Did you have any trouble tuning it with both the spring and QD in place?
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Did you have any trouble tuning it with both the spring and QD in place?
Not at all. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to tune actually.
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I like it and I wasn't even thinking about installing a cb. Where did you mount the cb?
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I like it and I wasn't even thinking about installing a cb. Where did you mount the cb?
Under the glovebox on the left side. The cord hangs down and if I remove the mic, I can tuck it under the carpet (this is in the first pic). Second pic is where I mounted the splitter.


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Not at all. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to tune actually.
OK. Usually the double add can cause problems, but if you got it working, then no issue.

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Love this mod. One question - is the adapter the same for the 430N head unit?

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Love this mod. One question - is the adapter the same for the 430N head unit?

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I want to say yes, but I don't have the 430N to check. However, if you end up needing the other part (40EU10) you can have mine just for the cost of shipping as I ordered both by accident.
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Thanks! I am ordering all the parts you listed today - looking forward to next weekend to install everything.

If the splitter is in the engine bay - how did you run the coaxial cable from the splitter to the inside of the tailgate?

Thanks again for posting this up. It also appeals to my CDO (it's just like OCD, but the letters are in the right order) quest for perfect symmetry.
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Thanks! I am ordering all the parts you listed today - looking forward to next weekend to install everything.

If the splitter is in the engine bay - how did you run the coaxial cable from the splitter to the inside of the tailgate?

Thanks again for posting this up. It also appeals to my CDO (it's just like OCD, but the letters are in the right order) quest for perfect symmetry.
Sorry, I guess it wasn't very clear in my picture. That's actually behind the glovebox, so not in the engine bay. From behind the glovebox, I ran the coax cable under the trim on the right side of the vehicle, following the floor then along the seat belt then under carpet all the way back. There's a wire loom already sticking out for the power for the third brake light, I just followed that for the path.
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I've had similar problems with my antenna and have thought about moving it; for those of us not interested in the CB, what on your list don't we need?
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I've had similar problems with my antenna and have thought about moving it; for those of us not interested in the CB, what on your list don't we need?
You would not need the Cobra radio, the JeepUniq mount, or the SWR meter.
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Is the Sirius XM antenna elsewhere or does this affect that reception? Thanks! This is an interesting idea!


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Is the Sirius XM antenna elsewhere or does this affect that reception? Thanks! This is an interesting idea!


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A few questions and a comment:
1. Why did you select a 2-ft antenna and not a 3-ft? The original antenna is 3 ft., and a 3-ft antenna will extend about 6 inches above the roof.
2. I'm not installing a CB; do I even need to think about "tuning" it?
3. Does the spare tire simply mount over the antenna mount?

As I was looking, I found this 3-ft antenna in red, white and blue: https://www.amazon.com/FIRESTIK-II-F.../dp/B000X3809W.
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A few questions and a comment:
1. Why did you select a 2-ft antenna and not a 3-ft? The original antenna is 3 ft., and a 3-ft antenna will extend about 6 inches above the roof.
2. I'm not installing a CB; do I even need to think about "tuning" it?
3. Does the spare tire simply mount over the antenna mount?

As I was looking, I found this 3-ft antenna in red, white and blue: https://www.amazon.com/FIRESTIK-II-F.../dp/B000X3809W.
1) I tend to park in a garage with a 7' height limit pretty often, and with the 2' antenna my total height is coming in at 6'8" - that's why I personally went with the 2ft. I'm planning on getting a 3ft with quick disconnect to swap out when going on longer trips.

2) Without the CB there is no "tuning" that needs to take place

3) Yes, just goes right back on like normal. it may make contact depending on your wheels though, which is why I needed to order the spare tire spacer.

Hope this helps!
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Thinking through this mod while I wait for the parts to come in and I had one more question. I assumed the 40-EU20 adapter ran from the back of the stock radio to either the CB or the splitter - now I'm not so sure. Can you clarify?
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Thinking through this mod while I wait for the parts to come in and I had one more question. I assumed the 40-EU20 adapter ran from the back of the stock radio to either the CB or the splitter - now I'm not so sure. Can you clarify?
Sure thing - using the attached pic for reference.

The splitter has two outputs on one side - the CB cable and the radio antenna cable. These are the two cables on the right side of the picture. On the splitter, side they use the same plug style, but the CB/FM side they use the correct respective plugs. The 40EU20 bridges this cable to the radio - one side of the 40EU20 adapter plugs into the back of the radio, the other end is plugged into the AM/FM cable in the picture.
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Thanks again for the idea and the links and the extra information. So if I'm reading this correctly -

Step 1) Unplug the stock AM/FM radio antenna cable from the back of the radio
Step 2) Plug the adapter into the back of the radio
Step 3) Plug the stock antenna cable into the adapter.
Step 4) The adapter plugs into the AM/FM port in the splitter.
Step 5) Run the 18ft coaxial cable I bought from the CB port in the splitter back to Firestick.

Is that right?
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Thanks again for the idea and the links and the extra information. So if I'm reading this correctly -

Step 1) Unplug the stock AM/FM radio antenna cable from the back of the radio
Step 2) Plug the adapter into the back of the radio
Step 3) Plug the stock antenna cable into the adapter.
Step 4) The adapter plugs into the AM/FM port in the splitter.
Step 5) Run the 18ft coaxial cable I bought from the CB port in the splitter back to Firestick.

Is that right?
I tried drawing it out, hope this helps

The stock antenna cable is useless after this mod. It's basically just hanging in there attached to nothing. The steps would be

Step 1) Unplug the stock AM/FM radio antenna cable from the back of the radio
Step 2) Plug the adapter into the back of the radio
Step 3) Plug the other end of the adapter into the splitter.
Step 4) Run the 18ft coaxial cable I bought from the **CB ANTENNA ** port in the splitter back to Firestick.
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Ah! makes sense now. Thanks again. The drawing helped, but don't quit your day job. Unless you're an artist - then quit you're day job. If you're ever in SLC I owe you a beer.
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I tried drawing it out, hope this helps

The stock antenna cable is useless after this mod. It's basically just hanging in there attached to nothing. The steps would be

Step 1) Unplug the stock AM/FM radio antenna cable from the back of the radio
Step 2) Plug the adapter into the back of the radio
Step 3) Plug the other end of the adapter into the splitter.
Step 4) Run the 18ft coaxial cable I bought from the **CB ANTENNA ** port in the splitter back to Firestick.
did you have to take apart the dash to get at the radio antenna at the radio?

BTW thanks for the writeup, this might have to be my next project as my radio stations have gone all staticy
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did you have to take apart the dash to get at the radio antenna at the radio?

BTW thanks for the writeup, this might have to be my next project as my radio stations have gone all staticy


Yep, have to take the dash apart. The screws to remove the head unit are hidden behind the dash panels. I will say, although it's a fair number of pieces, it is relatively easy to remove the dash.
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Got a 3ft Firestik in today and after tuning, getting a 1.3 SWR - so some improvement over the 2ft!

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