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Old 05-23-2019, 08:57 AM   #31
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I took my driver's side FP off recently in order to pull a strap through for my roof bag. After replacing the top it squeaked for a few days until it settled back into place.

I have yet to drive with them off. But from owning convertibles and targa tops there is something to be said about window adjustments making all the difference in comfort.

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Old 05-23-2019, 09:03 AM   #32
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I live in the country so I do mostly highway driving. I often run topless and doorless in the summer. When doing 70 with a 30 mile per hour crosswind, the wind blast can be horrible. On some real windy days I take the car instead of taking the time to button up the Wrangler.

This year I'm trying a Trektop with soft half doors.. Still a little breezy on the highway, but not as bad.

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Old 05-23-2019, 09:37 AM
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Try opening the rear hatch window with the windows down and freedom tops off. With the hatch open, it removes a lot of the buffering because the air has a place to go. I do it all the time.
I wondered about that. I thought of doing it, but I was worried about the lack of support for the back window and, with the naturally rough ride on the Jeep, I thought it might mean a broken window.
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I aint nearly as tough as most here so I keep my top and FP on. I have about 1/2 million miles on motorcycles since 1971(lucky enough to get paid for 10 years putting miles on harleys) and pretty much always wore full face helmets with earplugs. I don't like wearing ear plugs in the jeep so keep the top on. I suppose if I were just putting around town or slow back roads it would be ok but driving cross country at 75-80mph to hit wheeling spots not worth it to me.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:48 AM   #35
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+1 to lowering rear windows (on a 4 door) for smoothest conditions at high speed. Rear half down, front up seems to be least turbulent, though it's easy to just try different combos on the fly as drive and go with what works best.

This is what I do as well for freeway driving.
I tend to do a lot of freeway driving this way.

It is a matter of equalizing the air pressure between the front and back.

Then I can lower front windows in town or lower speed driving.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:11 AM   #36
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LOL, another: "I don't take off my panels/hard top and I don't care what people say" vs. "I'm the cool guy that drives around with no top all summer long guy (that IS me )" thread
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Gotta put rear windows down to stop the side-of-the-head-wind.
Pretty much this.
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Try opening the rear hatch window with the windows down and freedom tops off. With the hatch open, it removes a lot of the buffering because the air has a place to go. I do it all the time.
I run this setup often on my 2dr before it gets blistering hot here in FL. Bungee the back glass against the spare so no bounce. Buffeting reduced by about 50% I think. Much more enjoyable.

Wishing those fixed rear windows had a tilt function like in my old Expedition. That would make it very nice to ride with the Freedoms off but the hard top still on.
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My '14 has never had the FP's off or the doors off, never will be. But there has been a time that I rolled the windows down.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:40 AM   #40
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My '14 has never had the FP's off or the doors off, never will be. But there has been a time that I rolled the windows down.
I assume in California there would be a complex permit-application process.
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There was a guy on here that offered a sliding rear side window option. I think I saw photos of it on the JKU. There was talk of a JK version. Are those viable products now? ...or did it fade away.
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There was a guy on here that offered a sliding rear side window option. I think I saw photos of it on the JKU. There was talk of a JK version. Are those viable products now? ...or did it fade away.
I'm sure @jscherb wouldn't let that die. It was a great idea.
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There was a guy on here that offered a sliding rear side window option. I think I saw photos of it on the JKU. There was talk of a JK version. Are those viable products now? ...or did it fade away.
It's not me that sells the kit, it's from Retrofit Offroad and both JKU and JK 2-door versions has been available for some time:

Jeep Factory Hardtop Slider Window Kit | Retrofit Offroad

I designed the kit but I am not an employee of Retrofit Offroad.
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I don't often remove my Freedom Panels, but mine do have tilt-open skylights which provide more view, light and air...



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I don't often remove my Freedom Panels, but mine do have tilt-open skylights which provide more view, light and air...



That top is awesome, just like everything else you do.
I wish I had the nerve to do that to mine
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It's not me that sells the kit, it's from Retrofit Offroad and both JKU and JK 2-door versions has been available for some time:

Jeep Factory Hardtop Slider Window Kit | Retrofit Offroad

I designed the kit but I am not an employee of Retrofit Offroad.
Great. More money to spend.
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That top is awesome, just like everything else you do.
I wish I had the nerve to do that to mine
w3rd.

I'd get ulcers taking a sawzall or jigsaw to my hardtop.
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I'd get ulcers taking a sawzall or jigsaw to my hardtop.
Looking at how the edges are rounded and formed, there's a whole lot more going on than sawzalls! That's amazing work. Looks totally factory. (Actually considering some of the shit I've seen so far, that's probably not as complimentary as I intended.)
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Looking at how the edges are rounded and formed, there's a whole lot more going on than sawzalls! That's amazing work. Looks totally factory. (Actually considering some of the shit I've seen so far, that's probably not as complimentary as I intended.)
Likely a high speed die grinder type tool with a cutoff wheel. But either way it’s impressive work for sure.
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Yeah, it shows I never own a 4 dr sedan for I am a 2 dr guy.


Took me a few minutes to figure it out as well
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Looking at how the edges are rounded and formed, there's a whole lot more going on than sawzalls! That's amazing work. Looks totally factory. (Actually considering some of the shit I've seen so far, that's probably not as complimentary as I intended.)
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Likely a high speed die grinder type tool with a cutoff wheel. But either way it’s impressive work for sure.
All the cutting was done with an abrasive cutoff wheel. The joint lines on the JK hardtop just were begging to be cut apart and made into a modular top so I did that. It is a DIY project, I posted step-by-step instructions for converting the hardtop to modular here: https://www.expeditionportal.com/for...odular.160775/.



And it's easy to install/remove by myself and it stores easily .



I've got several sets of panels for it, a side panel with slider windows can be seen in the photo above. (Jeep Factory Hardtop Slider Window Kit | Retrofit Offroad).

When it's all bolted together you can't tell that it's modular...



So rather than taking the Freedom Panels off very often, I'd rather not have the sun beating down on me so I've got the skylights in the Freedom Panels to let more light in and I remove the hardtop sides and put on half doors for a more open air experience.
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All the cutting was done with an abrasive cutoff wheel. The joint lines on the JK hardtop just were begging to be cut apart and made into a modular top so I did that. It is a DIY project, I posted step-by-step instructions for converting the hardtop to modular here: https://www.expeditionportal.com/for...odular.160775/.
That's awesome. If the JK in the garage was mine rather than the wife's, I'd be ordering fiberglass stuff from Amazon and warming up the Wheel of Death instead of posting this reply.

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