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Old 01-18-2020, 01:22 AM
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Finding water leak

I lifted up our front passenger rubber floor mat to clean it and found water under the mat and a saturated carpet. I checked on line to see the best way to find the leak spot, and one idea was to turn on the ac full blast to pressurize the inside of the Jeep and then us a spray bottle of water and soap and look for air bubbles while spraying on the suspected spots. Sounds like it might work.
Step one....I have our Jeep in the garage and pulling out the passenger seat and back seat to get carpet up and dried out.I need to disconnect the electrical plug that is under the seat, to get the front seat out.

Step two.... pull out the back seat to get the carpet up and dried out.

Step three.... find leak and fix it.

Step four.... think about trading our Jeep in for a vehicle that has better quality control. Shop tells me that almost all Jeeps leak sooner or later.

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The leak is only in the passenger side, both front and rear.






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Old 01-18-2020, 06:32 AM   #2
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Anyone buying a YJ, CJ, TJ , JK/u, etc and didn't realize you might get some water leaks didn't do ANY due dillengnce imo. How many vehciles can simply and totally remove the top and doors? It's part of the deal owning one of these REAL off road vehicles as opposed to almost all other vehicles imo. No it doesn't totally excuse Jeep from trying to make it right on new Jeeps. However it's simply part of these beasts personality. Probably many Jeeps leak some water into the interior getting carpets, etc wet.

I just don't see it as a big deal if you really want to drive a vehicle that has all the advantages and fun that Jeeps offer. My (used) 2016 JKU with hardtop and Bestop sunrider insert installed leaked like a sieve into BOTH sides of the front floor. Mats would actually fill up with water after a hard rain! I read all the suggestions, watched the fix it videos on Ytube and guess what.... it's almost completely dry now. Must have cost me at least 15 bucks for all the stuff I bought at Home Cheapo and Auto Zone. Still a little water on the mats after a hard downpour but so what? No more then climbing in with snow covered boots.

This isn't rocket science so for a few bucks and some DIY you can probably make your leaking Jeep relatively free of water leaks and be happy ever after. I have to LOL at these constant threads about leaking Jeeps! My advice if your goal is to drive a vehicle that's hermetically sealed from the elements buy a different kind of vehicle. Yea it's annoying but any leaking can be made acceptable (for most) if you really want to fix it yourself.
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Finding water leak

I own a 78 CJ, and an 89 YJ. I have owned a 99 TJ and a 15 JKU. they all leaked, but the 15 (with factory soft top) leaked very little.
And, I don’t remember having to pull any seats to remove the carpet in my 15. I removed it the day after I bought it. Then when it came time to sell it, the carpet looked brand-new.

My advice.
Pull the carpet. Leave the carpet out. Put in some weather tech type mats. When it leaks, pull the drain plugs in the floor.
Now, that doesn’t mean you don’t want to find and fix the leak, but as the other poster said, they’re pretty common. And you may want to get it in your head that you may not be able to completely stop them. You may have to live with slowing them down. Like the other poster said, you can remove the entire top and doors; it’s hard to get perfect deals on something like that.

A good way to find a leak is to drive it through an automatic car wash, after you pull your carpet; make sure you floor plugs are back in.
Good luck, and if you find you cannot live with it, it’s not the end of the world, buy something else. Things like this are why Jeeps are for sale everyday, everywhere.
Leaks, rough ride, loud tires, mods... you get the idea.
It usually only takes a month or two to decide whether you’re a Jeep guy or not...



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I got mine just about leak free with the hardtop on using NAPA camper top tape along the sealing areas on the freedom panels.

Strangely enough, when I put the Trektop NX on for spring/summer and fall, if I had the doors on, it did not leak. When I bought the half doors, I got a few leaks with the uppers on sitting still, but never bothered to mess with 'em. Windows are out for most of the summer and just thow a Rain gear cover on it at night if it's gonna rain.

I too have had carpets out for years. I did just put Bedtred in and I'm really liking that.

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after you get your carpets out, and the inside dried out.
have wife/girlfriend or a friend hold the hose and with you shut inside, let them run the hose over the doors where they meet the top. They usually leak where the door meets the A-Pillar/windshield frame. make sure your OEM seals are flat, and not buckled over, then start with the camper tape.
Download this manual click here from my drive and check it out.
keep at it, and you will dry it up for the most part.
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As I stated in a similar post. Mine was leak free for 1st 3 years. Now leaks a little on the passenger side. Puddle is very small and I have rubber floor mats. It also rarely rains in SoCal, so its a 2/10 on my level of stress or needs to be fixed
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Mine leaked in year 2 so I watched a couple YouTube videos, performed their suggested fix and it worked for me. Check in the first page or two of this forum and you will see a couple other recent threads on leaks. I posted the video I followed to one of those. Don't give up yet. But as others said, Jeeps leak. I knew it going in and love my Jeep enough to deal with it as it happens.

Will be interesting to see if the new Ford Bronco leaks, assuming it has removable top and doors.
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Mine leaked in year 2 so I watched a couple YouTube videos, performed their suggested fix and it worked for me. Check in the first page or two of this forum and you will see a couple other recent threads on leaks. I posted the video I followed to one of those. Don't give up yet. But as others said, Jeeps leak. I knew it going in and love my Jeep enough to deal with it as it happens.

Will be interesting to see if the new Ford Bronco leaks, assuming it has removable top and doors.
Since I own 2017 F150 Lariat I can say with certainty many of these Ford trucks have leaked water into the interior. Some because of the moon roof, some because of the back sliding window, some from the windshields. etc. There have been plenty of buy backs because of on going water leak issues. When Ford is doing a buy back tells you it's a problem that they can't seem to fix on certain trucks.

At least on Jeeps it's usually not a huge issue as it quickly becomes with a F150.
When the inside of a F150 is soaked it's almost impossible to get it completely dried out especially under the rear seats. Bottom line Jeeps aren't the only vehicle that have water leaks only that there are probably more Jeeps leaking because of the way they are made.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:19 PM   #8
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Since I own 2017 F150 Lariat I can say with certainty many of these Ford trucks have leaked water into the interior. Some because of the moon roof, some because of the back sliding window, some from the windshields. etc. There have been plenty of buy backs because of on going water leak issues. When Ford is doing a buy back tells you it's a problem that they can't seem to fix on certain trucks.

At least on Jeeps it's usually not a huge issue as it quickly becomes with a F150.
When the inside of a F150 is soaked it's almost impossible to get it completely dried out especially under the rear seats. Bottom line Jeeps aren't the only vehicle that have water leaks only that there are probably more Jeeps leaking because of the way they are made.
I am a Ford guy and have owned several. Most of them leaked in some way or another right after I bought them new. Fortunately they were all repaired under warranty and didn't re-occur.

1992 Ford Ranger - leak where driveshaft exits the manual transmission
1995 Mustang - Rear main seal leaked
2003 Ford Expedition - Leak where driveshaft enters the rear axle housing
2008 Ford Ranger - leak at the top of the windshield - took 2 repairs to fix

I am afraid of Ford now, not because of these leaks but because of their transmissions. The Ford Taurus way back in the day had a bad transmission and they didn't step up to fix them for many years. The older Ford Explorers ate transmissions too. My friend needed a trans for his and every cheap used Explorer he looked at needed a transmission. Now Ford has bad transmissions in the Focus and Fiesta and I just saw a headline about problems with their 10 speed in the F-150. Ford doesn't know how to build a transmission and even worse, they don't own up to it, sticking owners with thousands of $$$$ in repairs.

My 2013 Honda CR-V blew the motor at 64k even though I had all maintenance done on schedule at the dealer. Honda America stepped up and covered all by $700 of the new motor and I'm still driving it.
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I am a Ford guy and have owned several. Most of them leaked in some way or another right after I bought them new. Fortunately they were all repaired under warranty and didn't re-occur.

1992 Ford Ranger - leak where driveshaft exits the manual transmission
1995 Mustang - Rear main seal leaked
2003 Ford Expedition - Leak where driveshaft enters the rear axle housing
2008 Ford Ranger - leak at the top of the windshield - took 2 repairs to fix

I am afraid of Ford now, not because of these leaks but because of their transmissions. The Ford Taurus way back in the day had a bad transmission and they didn't step up to fix them for many years. The older Ford Explorers ate transmissions too. My friend needed a trans for his and every cheap used Explorer he looked at needed a transmission. Now Ford has bad transmissions in the Focus and Fiesta and I just saw a headline about problems with their 10 speed in the F-150. Ford doesn't know how to build a transmission and even worse, they don't own up to it, sticking owners with thousands of $$$$ in repairs.

My 2013 Honda CR-V blew the motor at 64k even though I had all maintenance done on schedule at the dealer. Honda America stepped up and covered all by $700 of the new motor and I'm still driving it.
This is my 6th F150 and fortunately I've never had any major tranny issues. This 10 speed was reflashed and has been excellent since that was done. I do a fair amount of towing (7 to 9,000 lbs) and it's been really good so far. Hope it stays that way but I made sure to get an extended ford warranty just in case.

I had a major issue with my 06 F150 with the 5.4 Triton! It required all new cam phasers about 4000 miles out of warranty. Ford stepped to the plate as this was a very expensive repair and it only cost me 100 bucks. So they've treated me well over the years, henc I keep buying their trucks.

Bottom line every manufacture has product issues and failures. What counts is how they handle them and how they take care of the customers! A few water leaks in my Jeep is the least of my concerns to be honest.
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Old 01-21-2020, 03:33 PM   #10
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Many threads on this. Here's one. The adhesive weather seal worked for me.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/r...e-2379869.html
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I am a Ford guy and have owned several. Most of them leaked in some way or another right after I bought them new. Fortunately they were all repaired under warranty and didn't re-occur.

1992 Ford Ranger - leak where driveshaft exits the manual transmission
1995 Mustang - Rear main seal leaked
2003 Ford Expedition - Leak where driveshaft enters the rear axle housing
2008 Ford Ranger - leak at the top of the windshield - took 2 repairs to fix

These were all water leaks?
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These were all water leaks?
Well no, they were worse, they were oil leaks. But the point is they were fixed and all was well.
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With both the wet spots on the passenger side this probably isn't the case but this is something I just discovered.. I do get a minimal amount of water intrusion when I pressure wash but haven't noticed any leaks of concern. I spent some time playing in the snow just before New Years. I was poking around last weekend and lifted my driver floor mat. Almost 3 weeks from being driven in any moisture and the carpet was soaked to the point the floor mat was dripping when I picked it up. This was solely from tracking snow in on my feet. My factory mat has the holes that clip to the carpet so snow just melts through. Carpet is out and likely won't go back in.
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I just dealt with a similar leak issue. If you are finding water under you front carpet try this fix:

I also replaced all of the foam adhesives on my freedom tops as well. They were wearing thin. I used this kit: https://amzn.to/2uq9bm8

I take my top off a lot when it's warm enough here in the midwest. I have a 2013 so I'm thinking it's just wear a tear. I've had the JK for 5 years w/o issues. Yes, it sucks that most Jeep owners have to deal with this. Quality control is an issue, but at least it's something you can fix and not take to the dealership and get charged an arm and a leg for.

Hope that helps.
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Very helpful. Thanks
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I did my own tutorial as well. Very redundant of the above video with a few extras.
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Weather tech floor mats are really great and look almost like a factory linex or spray on liner. The problem, is they slide around to all hell with nothing underneath them. I found that those 'mopar slush mats' underneath them work very well.... will probably just leave them in year round
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I did my own tutorial as well. Very redundant of the above video with a few extras.
https://youtu.be/_ov7uIc3q20

I tried your solution and it worked. Dealer said that it would cost me $800 to $900 to find and fix the leak.



It cost me $7.99 to fix the leak with your method.


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I tried your solution and it worked. Dealer said that it would cost me $800 to $900 to find and fix the leak.



It cost me $7.99 to fix the leak with your method.


Thank you very much
Amazing dealers are so ill informed (perhaps on purpose) on how to resolve most water leaks into JK's. I did mine a month after purchasing my used 2016 which leaked enough to fill up my floor mats after a heavy rain. Haven't had more then a few drops inside even after extremely heavy rains.

Bottom line this isn't rocket science and with a little research, a few bucks and DIY most annoying water leaks can be prevented in our Jeeps. Having said that the freaken factory ought to look ONLINE and improve how the tops and doors are sealed against water intrusion. The cost at the factory would be almost nothing especially compared to dealers doing warranty work for leaks.
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I tried your solution and it worked. Dealer said that it would cost me $800 to $900 to find and fix the leak.



It cost me $7.99 to fix the leak with your method.


Thank you very much
Glad to help! And so glad you didn't go the dealer route, ha!

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